From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

Q: Why do zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?

1. We proved via Apple technical documentation Apple's behavior.
2. I happened to show a few screenshots and their date, as evidence
(even though it's well-known well-publicized iOS behavior)
3. The Apple zealots like Tyrone brazenly denied Apple's documentation
but worse, Alan Baker claimed Apple changed their token system timing.

WTF?
When facts fail, excuses flourish.
I cite Apple. They cite vibes.

The evidence for their absurd claims denying Apple's own documentation
is merely that they noted that the DATE on my screenshots old & new.
December 28, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/50zktn7G/appleid20251228.jpg>
February 9, 2022 <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>
February 8, 2022 <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg>

WTF?
Documented reality: 1 - Zealot fan-fiction: 0.
Because when evidence is inconvenient, denial is a lifestyle.

This outlandishness of Apple zealots knows no bounds when they're desperate
to claim that iOS doesn't work the way Apple documented it to work.

Without a shred of evidence, the zealots laughably concoct the preposterous claim that Apple recently changed how their token expiration process works.

WTF?
"Nothing beats the speed of a zealot inventing an excuse."
"I bring receipts. They bring imagination."

When I presented those images (of which I have many more since it happens
all day, every day on my main iPad), the zealots claimed I edited them.

WTF?
Apple wrote the documentation; I just read it.
If Apple didn't document it, I guess I hallucinated the screenshots too.

Now, I "could" edit them, but why would I edit them when they're just proof that they pop up, which is in the Apple tokenization documentation anyway.

Really what's happening is what always happens which is the Apple zealots
hate how iOS works so they become delusionally desperate to deny what Apple already documented in their own documentation is, in fact, actual fact.
October 27, 2023 <https://i.postimg.cc/WzGq756M/appleid20231027.jpg>
December 11, 2023 <https://i.postimg.cc/vH757Z0Z/appleid20231211.jpg>
May 20, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/FsXjJLgb/appleid20240520.jpg>
August 3, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/tJWWMqyL/appleid20240803.jpg>
December 8, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/NMWRD9hF/appleid20241208.jpg>
December 10, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/R0p73pXY/appleid20241210.jpg>
December 16, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/W1n6V1rs/appleid20241216.jpg>
December 19, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/jdy48XSn/appleid20241219.jpg>
April 8, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/SKSdYM41/appleid20250408.jpg>
April 17, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/y6tLpxhr/appleid20250417.jpg>
September 2, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/dDc1gJ1p/appleid20250902.jpg>
October 31, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/D0X0CS2g/appleid20251031.jpg>
January 7, 2026 <https://i.postimg.cc/cLMgytQ0/appleid20260107.jpg>
(I have millions of these over time simply because it's how iOS works.)

In a nutshell, the Apple zealots make up the first always-ridiculous
completely preposterous excuses for denying how Apple products work, by
making up the first ludicrous excuse that pops into their minds. But why?

Q: Why do zealots invent pathetic excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?
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Maria Sophia wrote:

October 27, 2023 <https://i.postimg.cc/WzGq756M/appleid20231027.jpg>
December 11, 2023 <https://i.postimg.cc/vH757Z0Z/appleid20231211.jpg>
May 20, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/FsXjJLgb/appleid20240520.jpg>
August 3, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/tJWWMqyL/appleid20240803.jpg>
December 8, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/NMWRD9hF/appleid20241208.jpg>
December 10, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/R0p73pXY/appleid20241210.jpg>
December 16, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/W1n6V1rs/appleid20241216.jpg>
December 19, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/jdy48XSn/appleid20241219.jpg>
April 8, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/SKSdYM41/appleid20250408.jpg>
April 17, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/y6tLpxhr/appleid20250417.jpg>
September 2, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/dDc1gJ1p/appleid20250902.jpg>
October 31, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/D0X0CS2g/appleid20251031.jpg>
January 7, 2026 <https://i.postimg.cc/cLMgytQ0/appleid20260107.jpg>
(I have millions of these over time simply because it's how iOS works.)

What's in support of this question is Chris just now made up the absurd
excuse that he doesn't know what his password is, so, to him, that negates everything in Apple's own documentation about tokens expiring.

From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 15:44:04 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <10jlv04$ome3$1@dont-email.me>

That wasn't the only excuse for denying Apple's own documented tokenization mechanisms in that post, because Chris echoed the same absurd Alan Baker
excuse that I need to provide a screenshot for every day in my life that
this happens. Many times a day. Usually right after I open the iPad.

Note that would be every day, all day, since it's actually how iOS works.
Apple Identity Services:
<https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sign_in_with_apple>

iCloud authentication and tokens:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203512>

App Store authentication:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208924>

iMessage and FaceTime activation:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201422>

Activation Lock and device activation tokens:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201365>
etc.
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Why can nobody get Apple religious zealots to read Apple's documenation,
which they instantly deny using the first absurd excuse they can think of.
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Maria Sophia wrote:

That wasn't the only excuse for denying Apple's own documented tokenization mechanisms in that post, because Chris echoed the same absurd Alan Baker excuse that I need to provide a screenshot for every day in my life that
this happens. Many times a day. Usually right after I open the iPad.

Note that would be every day, all day, since it's actually how iOS works.

The question in this thread is:
Q: Why do zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?

We know they do.
The question is why they do that.

Given they did it, it forces us to respond to refute their inane excuses.

For example, the requested screenshots that Chris asks for which proves it happened yesterday and today. Does he really need it for every day forward?
Jan 7/8 2026 <https://i.postimg.cc/zXLnKCVM/appleid20260107-08.jpg>

First note that it doesn't just pop up once, and it doesn't accept the
refusal just once. There are many prompts. A video would show it.

Also note, only Apple 'bricks' the device (over time) if you refuse to
re-enter passwords for accounts that you never logged out of.
<https://i.postimg.cc/q75t7MSk/appleid03.jpg>

But the question here is why do the zealots feel the need to deny
everything they don't like about Apple using the first inane excuse that
they can think of?

For the zealots to claim it doesn't happen to them is even wrong, since it happens to everyone on iOS but they just glibly enter the password when
asked.

Me? I am different than most iOS users in that I strive to understand how
the system works, so I don't enter the password when Apple asks me to do
so. And "everything works fine". For a while anyway.

Eventually Apple 'bricks' the device (i.e., Activation Lock), which no
other operating system does.

I think perhaps the reason the zealots try to deny how iOS works is maybe
they dislike that only Apple is this Draconian in how its ecosystem works.

But I don't know WHY the zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's
documented behavior?

Do you?

Q: Why do zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?
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Maria Sophia wrote:

The question in this thread is:
Q: Why do zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?

As a further datapoint, Tyrone posted in the thread below that iOS can't possibly work the way iOS is documented to work because he doesn't remember
it doing that.

From Tyrone:
"That has NEVER happened to me. Ever. On ANY of my many iOS devices.
Over MANY years. Do you understand that?
I strongly suspect that you are a lying piece of shit."

From: Tyrone <none@none.none>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?
Message-ID: <CLOdnf5Dyp2fQsP0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com>

It doesn't occur to Tyrone that his memory of how his iOS device works is
not necessarily the definitive test of how every other iOS device works.
From Tyrone:
"I have everything enabled on about 16 active devices. I have NEVER
been randomly prompted to enter my password."

From: Tyrone <none@none.none>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?
Message-ID: <dEudnR_YcoeKwvz0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com>

For him, the fact he's oblivious of how iOS works means, to him, that it doesn't work the way Apple documents it to work.

From Tyrone:
"I now have - collected over many years - 4 iPhones (5, 8+, 12 Pro Max,
16 Pro Max), 4 iPod Touch 7s and 13 various model iPads. NONE have
EVER asked me to login for no reason. Only when I am downloading
something from the App Store. etc.

As always, he is full of shit."

From: Tyrone <none@none.none>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?
Message-ID: <3pGcnfEZTeV6LsD0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com>

What kind of strange person says that anyone who says the truth
about how iOS is documented to work, is a liar and a piece of shit?

Given these zealots don't act like normal people, the question remains:
Q: Why do zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?
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On 2026-01-07 16:54, Maria Sophia wrote:

Q: Why do zealots fabricate inane excuses for Apple's documented behavior?
A: ?

1. We proved via Apple technical documentation Apple's behavior.

No, you most certainly didn't PROVE anything.

2. I happened to show a few screenshots and their date, as evidence
(even though it's well-known well-publicized iOS behavior)

And yet you provide no examples of this "publicized" information.

3. The Apple zealots like Tyrone brazenly denied Apple's documentation
but worse, Alan Baker claimed Apple changed their token system timing.

I made no such claim. The brazen lying here is all yours.

WTF?
When facts fail, excuses flourish.
I cite Apple. They cite vibes.

You may provide some links to Apple web pages...

...you don't quote anything that supports your claims.

The evidence for their absurd claims denying Apple's own documentation
is merely that they noted that the DATE on my screenshots old & new.
December 28, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/50zktn7G/appleid20251228.jpg>
February 9, 2022 <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg>
February 8, 2022 <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg>

WTF?
Documented reality: 1 - Zealot fan-fiction: 0.
Because when evidence is inconvenient, denial is a lifestyle.

This outlandishness of Apple zealots knows no bounds when they're desperate to claim that iOS doesn't work the way Apple documented it to work.

Without a shred of evidence, the zealots laughably concoct the preposterous claim that Apple recently changed how their token expiration process works.

WTF?
"Nothing beats the speed of a zealot inventing an excuse."
"I bring receipts. They bring imagination."

When I presented those images (of which I have many more since it happens
all day, every day on my main iPad), the zealots claimed I edited them.

WTF?
Apple wrote the documentation; I just read it.

But neglected to quote it.

If Apple didn't document it, I guess I hallucinated the screenshots too.

Now, I "could" edit them, but why would I edit them when they're just proof that they pop up, which is in the Apple tokenization documentation anyway.

Because you're a narcissist who can't stand being shown to be wrong.

Witness SMB apps which COULD NOT BE (according to you).

Witness "catenary" curves in road racing, which you claimed every racer
knew about...

...but couldn't provide a single instance of it ever being mentioned...

...except at the transition curve in a program which simulated the ramp
down which small wooden model cars were allowed to race.
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On 2026-01-07 17:10, Maria Sophia wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

October 27, 2023 <https://i.postimg.cc/WzGq756M/appleid20231027.jpg>
December 11, 2023 <https://i.postimg.cc/vH757Z0Z/appleid20231211.jpg>
May 20, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/FsXjJLgb/appleid20240520.jpg>
August 3, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/tJWWMqyL/appleid20240803.jpg>
December 8, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/NMWRD9hF/appleid20241208.jpg>
December 10, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/R0p73pXY/appleid20241210.jpg>
December 16, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/W1n6V1rs/appleid20241216.jpg>
December 19, 2024 <https://i.postimg.cc/jdy48XSn/appleid20241219.jpg>
April 8, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/SKSdYM41/appleid20250408.jpg>
April 17, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/y6tLpxhr/appleid20250417.jpg>
September 2, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/dDc1gJ1p/appleid20250902.jpg>
October 31, 2025 <https://i.postimg.cc/D0X0CS2g/appleid20251031.jpg>
January 7, 2026 <https://i.postimg.cc/cLMgytQ0/appleid20260107.jpg>
(I have millions of these over time simply because it's how iOS works.)

What's in support of this question is Chris just now made up the absurd excuse that he doesn't know what his password is, so, to him, that negates everything in Apple's own documentation about tokens expiring.

From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 15:44:04 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <10jlv04$ome3$1@dont-email.me>

That wasn't the only excuse for denying Apple's own documented tokenization mechanisms in that post, because Chris echoed the same absurd Alan Baker excuse that I need to provide a screenshot for every day in my life that
this happens. Many times a day. Usually right after I open the iPad.

Note that would be every day, all day, since it's actually how iOS works.
Apple Identity Services:
<https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sign_in_with_apple>

In relation to APPS:
'Provide users the ability to sign in to your APPS and websites using
their Apple Account.'

iCloud authentication and tokens:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203512>

Literally not a word about "tokens" or anything related to them.

App Store authentication:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208924>

'Measure dimensions with iPhone'

iMessage and FaceTime activation:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201422>

Relevant to your claims... ...how?

Activation Lock and device activation tokens:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201365>

Which is solely about how you can use the "Find My..." feature to CHOOSE
lock a device you have lost or had stolen...
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