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Am 18.12.2025 um 15:18 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 18, 2025 at 3:32:16rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 17.12.2025 um 21:32 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16:46rC>PM EST, "Bill Gates" <give.me@your.money.com> >>> wrote:

Really, you should switch to Linux, here are some options...

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/

Really, you should switch to Mac. Here are your options:

www.apple.com

Isn't Apple the same kind of proprietary American spyware like Windows?

No. Totally different and NOT spyware.

Dream on.
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J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 18.12.2025 um 15:18 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 18, 2025 at 3:32:16rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 17.12.2025 um 21:32 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16:46rC>PM EST, "Bill Gates" <give.me@your.money.com> >>>> wrote:

Really, you should switch to Linux, here are some options...

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/

Really, you should switch to Mac. Here are your options:

www.apple.com

Isn't Apple the same kind of proprietary American spyware like Windows?

No. Totally different and NOT spyware.

Dream on.

Just being on the internet exposes you to spyware regardless of what
platform you use.

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On Dec 30, 2025 at 9:23:32rC>AM EST, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 18.12.2025 um 15:18 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 18, 2025 at 3:32:16rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 17.12.2025 um 21:32 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16:46rC>PM EST, "Bill Gates" <give.me@your.money.com>
wrote:

Really, you should switch to Linux, here are some options...

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/

Really, you should switch to Mac. Here are your options:

www.apple.com

Isn't Apple the same kind of proprietary American spyware like Windows? >>>

No. Totally different and NOT spyware.

Dream on.

Just being on the internet exposes you to spyware regardless of what
platform you use.

"Exposes you" and actually getting it are 2 VERY different things.

I would much rather be here on a Mac than on Windows.
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On Dec 30, 2025 at 5:02:25rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 18.12.2025 um 15:18 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 18, 2025 at 3:32:16rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 17.12.2025 um 21:32 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16:46rC>PM EST, "Bill Gates" <give.me@your.money.com> >>>> wrote:

Really, you should switch to Linux, here are some options...

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/

Really, you should switch to Mac. Here are your options:

www.apple.com

Isn't Apple the same kind of proprietary American spyware like Windows?

No. Totally different and NOT spyware.

Dream on.

You think MacOS is like Windows?

You are the one dreaming.
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On 2025-12-30 02:02, J||rg Lorenz wrote:

Am 18.12.2025 um 15:18 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 18, 2025 at 3:32:16rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net>
wrote:

Am 17.12.2025 um 21:32 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16:46rC>PM EST, "Bill Gates"
<give.me@your.money.com>
wrote:

Really, you should switch to Linux, here are some options...

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/

Really, you should switch to Mac.-a-a Here are your options:

www.apple.com

Isn't Apple the same kind of proprietary American spyware like Windows?

No.-a Totally different and NOT spyware.

Dream on.

In what way is macOS (or iOS) "spyware"?

Be specific.

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On 2025-12-30 16:25:46 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Dec 30, 2025 at 5:02:25rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 18.12.2025 um 15:18 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 18, 2025 at 3:32:16rC>AM EST, "J||rg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

Am 17.12.2025 um 21:32 schrieb Tyrone:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 3:16:46rC>PM EST, "Bill Gates" <give.me@your.money.com>
wrote:

Really, you should switch to Linux, here are some options...

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/

Really, you should switch to Mac. Here are your options:

www.apple.com

Isn't Apple the same kind of proprietary American spyware like Windows? >>>

No. Totally different and NOT spyware.

Dream on.

You think MacOS is like Windows?

You are the one dreaming.

Windoze is and always has been just a cheap 'n' nasty knock-off of MacOS.


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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

Windoze is and always has been just a cheap 'n' nasty knock-off of MacOS.

I work in a technical organization which offers both Windows and Mac
computers. The support technicians must know how to fix both types of
systems. IrCOve asked them who uses which platforms. They tell me mostly management and secretaries use Macs while almost everyone else uses Windows systems. I asked them why and they told me those who only use Microsoft
Office and internet browsers donrCOt need anything more than a Mac. Those who do technical work and calculations use Windows systems because there are
far more applications available for that. There are some technical people
who use Macs, but only if all their technical work is done on remote Linux servers which they SSH into.

My organization also offers both iPhones and Samsung Galaxy phones. By far
the most chosen are iPhones.
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On 2025-12-30 15:19, badgolferman wrote:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

Windoze is and always has been just a cheap 'n' nasty knock-off of MacOS.

I work in a technical organization which offers both Windows and Mac computers. The support technicians must know how to fix both types of systems. IrCOve asked them who uses which platforms. They tell me mostly management and secretaries use Macs while almost everyone else uses Windows systems. I asked them why and they told me those who only use Microsoft Office and internet browsers donrCOt need anything more than a Mac. Those who do technical work and calculations use Windows systems because there are
far more applications available for that. There are some technical people
who use Macs, but only if all their technical work is done on remote Linux servers which they SSH into.

My organization also offers both iPhones and Samsung Galaxy phones. By far the most chosen are iPhones.

Sorry, but...

Bullshit.

"technical work and calculations"?

WHAT "technical work and calculations"?
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badgolferman wrote:

I work in a technical organization which offers both Windows and Mac computers. The support technicians must know how to fix both types of systems. Iove asked them who uses which platforms. They tell me mostly management and secretaries use Macs while almost everyone else uses Windows systems. I asked them why and they told me those who only use Microsoft Office and internet browsers donot need anything more than a Mac. Those who do technical work and calculations use Windows systems because there are
far more applications available for that. There are some technical people
who use Macs, but only if all their technical work is done on remote Linux servers which they SSH into.

My organization also offers both iPhones and Samsung Galaxy phones. By far the most chosen are iPhones.

Hi badgolferman,

Happy New Year!

I retired more than 15 years ago, but we had everything at a high-tech
company in the Silicon Valley, where all the customer-facing engineers had
an expensive high-end IBM dual-boot Windows/Redhat laptop, while the
developers were more varied but many had dual-boot desktops, and management
had slightly lower-end IBM Windows laptops, while all of marketing communications (marcoms) had the Apple devices (e.g., CorelDraw was big!).

The iPhone existed then, but in those days people chose their own phones,
but nowadays, I'm sure they standardize on one or the other or both.

As for the subject of Windows 11 having "bad features", the one I dislike
the most is the loss of the taskbar pullout cascade menu. Most people think
it disappeared with Windows 8, but they don't understand Windows.
<https://i.postimg.cc/j5K0RL7H/taskbarmenu01.jpg>

I've used literally the same accordion menu since Windows XP on all my
desktops and laptops. Literally the same files. They all work up to Win10.
<https://i.postimg.cc/fW38dhsX/android-windows-menus.jpg>

The other bad feature of Windows 11 is Microsoft is trying desperately to
track users like Apple tracks everyone in that a MSA is "required" if you
don't know how to get around the MSA.

The Microsoft MSA is nowhere nearly as bad as Apple's MSA in terms of Apple tracking you so much that Apple inserts tracking code into every IPA, but still, nobody likes to be tracked by Apple, Microsoft, Google, et al.

Apple's tracking is the worst, by far but Microsoft is trying to catch up.
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