That HHH(DD) rejects its input as non-halting semantically logically entailed
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That HHH(DD) correctly rejects its input on the
following basis is semantically entailed by the
following formal rubric list below this much more
human readable version.
Whether or not and to what degree it applies to
the halting problem is another different matter.
LLM systems are currently very good at semantic logical
entailment. When limited to this task they have no
opportunity for hallucination, thus seem to be quite
reliable as empirical testing has shown.
*This is the human readable form of the formal rubic*
*Clause AI, ChatGPT 4.0 and Grok fully understood this one*
<Input to LLM systems>
Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until:
(a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern:
abort simulation and return 0.
(b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement:
return 1.
typedef int (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
int DD()
{
int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
if (Halt_Status)
HERE: goto HERE;
return Halt_Status;
}
int main()
{
HHH(DD);
}
What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?
</Input to LLM systems>
*This is the beginning of the formal rubric*
*When one perfectly sticks to the rules then*
*there is only one possible result*
<Benchmark Task>
You are given:
1. A simulation rubric.
2. A C function (test program).
Your job:
- Apply the rubric exactly.
- Produce the required output in the given format.
- Do not skip steps or jump to conclusions.
---
<Rubric>
Rules of Simulation:
- (a) If a non-terminating behavior pattern is detected during
simulation, abort immediately and return 0.
- (b) If the simulated program reaches a return statement without
earlier detection, return 1.
- Priority: (a) always takes precedence over (b).
Procedure:
1. Restate rules before simulation.
2. Simulate step by step using a trace table with columns:
| Step | Code Location | State (variables, call stack) | Event /
Action | Rule Applied |
3. Stop immediately if recursion, infinite loop, or repeating state
occurs raA apply (a).
4. If a return is reached first raA apply (b).
5. Conclude with:
- Which rule fired first
- The correct return value
6. Optionally, provide:
- (i) Simulation result under rules
- (ii) Actual runtime behavior in C
</Rubric>
<Test Program>
typedef int (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
int DD()
{
int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
if (Halt_Status)
HERE: goto HERE;
return Halt_Status;
}
</Test Program>
<Required Output Format>
1. Restatement of rules
2. Step-by-step execution trace in a table
3. Identification of first rule triggered
4. Final result: return value of HHH(program)
5. Optional: actual C runtime behavior if relevant
</Required Output Format>
</Benchmark Task>
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