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    From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to comp.sys.unisys on Fri Oct 17 14:17:12 2025
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    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.
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    Crash McBash
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  • From BobRahe@BobRahe@icloud.com to comp.sys.unisys on Thu Oct 16 21:29:10 2025
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    On 10/16/25 9:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Yep, but me neither....

    Bob
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to comp.sys.unisys on Fri Oct 17 01:56:15 2025
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    BobRahe <BobRahe@icloud.com> writes:
    On 10/16/25 9:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Yep, but me neither....


    One might wonder if there is anything left to discuss
    other than history... And most of us veterans of the
    big B or Sperry are not getting any younger.
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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to comp.sys.unisys on Fri Oct 17 16:27:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.unisys

    On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 01:56:15 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    BobRahe <BobRahe@icloud.com> writes:
    On 10/16/25 9:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Yep, but me neither....


    One might wonder if there is anything left to discuss
    other than history... And most of us veterans of the
    big B or Sperry are not getting any younger.

    Looking at the current Unisys website there is still mention of
    Clearpath Forward and AB Site (was Enterprise Application Environment,
    was LINC) but it is well buried.

    I was wondering whether there were still mainframes (MCP and OS2200)
    still being sold. I am from the MCP (Burroughs) heritage.

    Those of us who came through from Burroughs or Sperry will now be well
    into retirement but there must still be some involved with production
    systems descended from these times.
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to comp.sys.unisys on Fri Oct 17 14:51:46 2025
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    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> writes:
    On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 01:56:15 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    BobRahe <BobRahe@icloud.com> writes:
    On 10/16/25 9:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Yep, but me neither....


    One might wonder if there is anything left to discuss
    other than history... And most of us veterans of the
    big B or Sperry are not getting any younger.

    Looking at the current Unisys website there is still mention of
    Clearpath Forward and AB Site (was Enterprise Application Environment,
    was LINC) but it is well buried.

    I was wondering whether there were still mainframes (MCP and OS2200)
    still being sold. I am from the MCP (Burroughs) heritage.

    Both V-series and A-series can be considered MCP. The last V-series
    was decomissioned circa 2010. I believe that there are still
    A-Series (Clearpath Libra) systems running, albeit in emulation on
    Intel hardware. Likewise the Univac descendents.


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  • From Don Vito Martinelli@hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid to comp.sys.unisys on Fri Oct 17 20:33:45 2025
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    Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.



    I'm from the 2200 side and retired the day the last system I was - in
    part - responsible for closed down. If I was still working now, it
    would definitely be only part time, as in a couple of days a week.
    Retirement age has since come and gone.
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  • From bill@bill.gunshannon@gmail.com to comp.sys.unisys on Sat Oct 18 19:27:00 2025
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    On 10/17/2025 10:51 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> writes:
    On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 01:56:15 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    BobRahe <BobRahe@icloud.com> writes:
    On 10/16/25 9:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Yep, but me neither....


    One might wonder if there is anything left to discuss
    other than history... And most of us veterans of the
    big B or Sperry are not getting any younger.

    Looking at the current Unisys website there is still mention of
    Clearpath Forward and AB Site (was Enterprise Application Environment,
    was LINC) but it is well buried.

    I was wondering whether there were still mainframes (MCP and OS2200)
    still being sold. I am from the MCP (Burroughs) heritage.

    Both V-series and A-series can be considered MCP. The last V-series
    was decomissioned circa 2010. I believe that there are still
    A-Series (Clearpath Libra) systems running, albeit in emulation on
    Intel hardware. Likewise the Univac descendents.



    Also being old, decrepit and retired I have no first hand knowledge
    but I knew two Unisys users who's use dated back to 1100 and Exec8
    who are probably still running it. As a matter of fact I would not
    be surprised if one of them was still running some of my code.
    (although I will probably never know because they are not likely to
    reveal anything about their operation!!)

    The other one has tried "modernization" but as of the last time I
    heard anything about it, it was not going to happen and was considered
    somewhat impossible. :-)


    bill

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  • From Al Kossow@aek@bitsavers.org to comp.sys.unisys on Sat Oct 18 17:29:41 2025
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    On 10/16/25 6:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Since there isn't a Convergent newsgroup
    I just pushed a bunch of new updates to bitsavers for
    CTOS/BTOS, and the NGEN and AWS including some of the
    CTOS kernel code and drivers to

    http://bitsavers.org/pdf/convergent
    and
    http://bitsavers.org/bits/Convergent

    which applies to the B2x up through Supergen products


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  • From Paul Kimpel@paul.kimpel@digm.com to comp.sys.unisys on Mon Oct 20 07:47:45 2025
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    On 10/18/2025 4:27 PM, bill wrote:
    On 10/17/2025 10:51 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> writes:
    On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 01:56:15 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    BobRahe <BobRahe@icloud.com> writes:
    On 10/16/25 9:17 PM, Crash wrote:
    Just wondering - I have not seen a post in months.


    Yep, but me neither....


    One might wonder if there is anything left to discuss
    other than history...-a And most of us veterans of the
    big B or Sperry are not getting any younger.

    Looking at the current Unisys website there is still mention of
    Clearpath Forward and AB Site (was Enterprise Application Environment,
    was LINC) but it is well buried.

    I was wondering whether there were still mainframes (MCP and OS2200)
    still being sold.-a I am from the MCP (Burroughs) heritage.

    Both V-series and A-series can be considered MCP.-a-a The last V-series
    was decomissioned circa 2010.-a-a I believe that there are still
    A-Series (Clearpath Libra) systems running, albeit in emulation on
    Intel hardware.-a-a Likewise the Univac descendents.



    Also being old, decrepit and retired I have no first hand knowledge
    but I knew two Unisys users who's use dated back to 1100 and Exec8
    who are probably still running it.-a As a matter of fact I would not
    be surprised if one of them was still running some of my code.
    (although I will probably never know because they are not likely to
    reveal anything about their operation!!)

    The other one has tried "modernization" but as of the last time I
    heard anything about it, it was not going to happen and was considered somewhat impossible.-a :-)


    bill


    Both the ClearPath MCP and OS2200 systems are still being sold and
    supported (well, after a fashion), but I suspect it's entirely a
    replacement market at this point.

    It's true that Unisys stopped making their own hardware, probably a
    decade ago now, and everything runs on Intel processors. If you buy
    hardware from Unisys now, it's standard Dell server boxes. While that's
    a little sad, it simply got too expensive to design custom chips for the
    size of the market, so Unisys effectively replaced their custom
    microengines with a COTS microengine. After some creative re-engineering
    of the firmware, they get quite impressive performance.

    In addition to buying complete systems from Unisys, you can now license
    just the firmware and system software and run it on your hardware,
    either bare metal or virtualized under one of a couple of hypervisors.
    You can also run it in the cloud, I think at least under AWS and Azure.

    I believe that all of the remaining customers are facing big, difficult, expensive, risky migrations, and most probably have had five-year
    replacement plans in place for the last 20 years.

    Paul

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