• Magic spell for PIOS wifi point.

    From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 12:58:30 2026
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    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would like
    to make the smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it from a
    Pi 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and the
    pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    TIA
    TNP
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  • From The Nomad@nomad@the.desert.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 14:02:48 2026
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    On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 12:58:30 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would like
    to make the smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it from a
    Pi 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and the
    pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    TIA TNP

    How about one of these?

    <https://insberr.github.io/pi-internet-bridge/>

    <https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-wifi-bridge/> - may be back-arse-
    wards but may still work

    <https://www.willhaley.com/blog/raspberry-pi-wifi-ethernet-bridge/>

    No I've not actually tried them, I've been fitting ZigBee without 'smart-
    life' /tuya cloud & bulbs that won't pair.

    Have fun

    Avpx
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  • From Adrian@bulleid@ku.gro.lioff to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 14:13:53 2026
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    In message <10k06pm$3qvn9$25@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would
    like to make the smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it
    from a Pi 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart >capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and
    the pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?


    Not a direct answer to your question, but ...

    I started looking at doing something similar to this a couple of years
    ago (using the Pi as a WiFi access point in a location beyond the range
    of my router's WiFi). I didn't complete the task for various reasons,
    but one thing that was clear, was that if I were to do it again, I would
    do the initial configuration of the Pi locally (keyboard etc. plugged
    in) rather than across the network (ssh session) as at each step of the
    way, it seemed that the Pi was inaccessible for something like 20-30
    minutes whilst it sorted out what to do with each configuration change
    (of which there were several needed).

    Good Luck

    Adrian
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  • From Adrian Caspersz@email@here.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 14:33:40 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would like
    to make the-a smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it from a
    Pi 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and the
    pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    TIA
    TNP


    Start with a recipe for a wireless access point?

    that will have a built-in bridge that the wireless clients will appear
    on, DHCP etc, and will connect to the pi's physical NIC

    Then you'll need to add a virtual NIC to this, for your TV software and connect that also to the bridge, via some local firewall rules.

    https://linuxconfig.org/configuring-virtual-network-interfaces-in-linux

    Or perhaps switch-like something hanging both the bridge i/o and a
    virtual NIC on the original physical NIC, using VLAN IDs to segregate
    traffic to each?


    (theoretically handwaving here, I've done the above in the OS of a
    carboot sale cheepie 50p speedtouch router, not linux)
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 14:40:58 2026
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    In message <10k06pm$3qvn9$25@dont-email.me>
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would like
    to make the smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it from a Pi
    5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and the
    pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    If I've understood correctly, turning the RPi into an access point would
    do half of what you want. I installed OpenWRT on an RPi4 a few weeks ago,
    and it was very successful as an AP, although the need for it didn't last
    long (my son installed a new mesh network, which gave whole house
    coverage). Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the
    RPi5.

    I'm not an expert on OpenWRT, so you'll need to web search for information.

    As for the other half of what you want, there might be enough processing
    power left over. You haven't given us any detail of what you want to do
    in that regard.

    David
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 19:16:47 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 14:02, The Nomad wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 12:58:30 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would like
    to make the smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it from a
    Pi 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and the
    pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    TIA TNP

    How about one of these?

    <https://insberr.github.io/pi-internet-bridge/>

    That one is replacing the DNS server and acting as a router. I jsut want
    a bridge.


    <https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-wifi-bridge/> - may be back-arse-
    wards but may still work

    Ah. That all rings a bell. Adding an interface called 'wifibridge' type 'ethernet' to the wifi interface may just do the trick

    <https://www.willhaley.com/blog/raspberry-pi-wifi-ethernet-bridge/>

    No I've not actually tried them, I've been fitting ZigBee without 'smart- life' /tuya cloud & bulbs that won't pair.

    That doesnt look up to date.

    Have fun

    Avpx
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 19:18:53 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 14:13, Adrian wrote:
    I started looking at doing something similar to this a couple of years
    ago (using the Pi as a WiFi access point in a location beyond the range
    of my router's WiFi).-a I didn't complete the task for various reasons,
    but one thing that was clear, was that if I were to do it again, I would
    do the initial configuration of the Pi locally (keyboard etc. plugged
    in) rather than across the network (ssh session) as at each step of the
    way, it seemed that the Pi was inaccessible for something like 20-30
    minutes whilst it sorted out what to do with each configuration change
    (of which there were several needed).

    Many thanks for good advice. I have a 4B available to test all this on
    with a scream and keybored, and I have been through all this myself with headless servers and IP changes. :-)
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 19:25:50 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 14:33, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would
    like to make the-a smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it
    from a Pi 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart
    capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and
    the pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    TIA
    TNP


    Start with a recipe for a wireless access point?

    That is all I need. The tv doesnt need to be on the LAN at all post that
    and indeed could use the wifi anyway IIRC.



    that will have a built-in bridge that the wireless clients will appear
    on, DHCP etc, and will connect to the pi's physical NIC

    The problem is how that is to be accomplished

    Then you'll need to add a virtual NIC to this, for your TV software and connect that also to the bridge, via some local firewall rules.

    https://linuxconfig.org/configuring-virtual-network-interfaces-in-linux

    That isn't particularly helpful.

    I am already where I want to be at that moment. The TV will be taken
    off the net anyway.
    Or connect via wifi. Or I will add a teensy two port swichth somewhere.

    It is the use of teh pi as a bridge that I am after.


    Or perhaps switch-like something hanging both the bridge i/o and a
    virtual NIC on the original physical NIC, using VLAN IDs to segregate traffic to each?

    No need to segregate. Originally I had a wifi equipped router set up as
    a bridge but I want to move that functionality to a PI.


    (theoretically handwaving here, I've done the above in the OS of a
    carboot sale cheepie 50p speedtouch router, not linux)

    --
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    on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
    projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 19:27:41 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:
    In message <10k06pm$3qvn9$25@dont-email.me>
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Situation: I have one ethernet port in a room near the TV and would like
    to make the smart TV not a TV so to speak, and instead drive it from a Pi >> 5 as a HDMI screen and use the Pi for any or all smart capabilities.

    But I also need wifi access to the network in that room as well, and the
    pi 5 comes with wifi,

    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and DHCP >> server via the Ethernet.

    Does anyone have a link to a magic spell book for this configuration?

    If I've understood correctly, turning the RPi into an access point would
    do half of what you want.

    Yes., it would.

    I installed OpenWRT on an RPi4 a few weeks ago,
    and it was very successful as an AP, although the need for it didn't last long (my son installed a new mesh network, which gave whole house
    coverage). Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the RPi5.

    I dont want to go that far and replace existing DHCP allocation etc.

    I'm not an expert on OpenWRT, so you'll need to web search for information.

    As for the other half of what you want, there might be enough processing power left over. You haven't given us any detail of what you want to do
    in that regard.

    That is why I don't want to start with opemwrt. Its too intrusive.


    David
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 19:58:22 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 19:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 14:13, Adrian wrote:
    I started looking at doing something similar to this a couple of years
    ago (using the Pi as a WiFi access point in a location beyond the
    range of my router's WiFi).-a I didn't complete the task for various
    reasons, but one thing that was clear, was that if I were to do it
    again, I would do the initial configuration of the Pi locally
    (keyboard etc. plugged in) rather than across the network (ssh
    session) as at each step of the way, it seemed that the Pi was
    inaccessible for something like 20-30 minutes whilst it sorted out
    what to do with each configuration change (of which there were several
    needed).

    Many thanks for good advice. I have a 4B available to test all this on
    with a scream and keybored, and I have been through all this myself with headless servers and IP changes. :-)


    Further to this I right clicked on the network icon on my desktop to
    select 'edit connections' and got the option to add an interface, and
    type 'bridge' was one of the options.

    It looks like a Gui interface may allow everything I want.

    I think if I add Ethernet and Wlan interfaces to a bridge device I get
    most of what I want, but I don't understand which interface gets the one
    and only IP address.
    Perhaps it doesn't matter...
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Jan 11 22:37:41 2026
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    In message <10k0tjd$4hee$5@dont-email.me>
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:

    I installed OpenWRT on an RPi4 a few weeks ago,
    and it was very successful as an AP, although the need for it didn't last
    long (my son installed a new mesh network, which gave whole house
    coverage). Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the
    RPi5.

    I dont want to go that far and replace existing DHCP allocation etc.

    You would set it up as an access point, not as a router. It would not
    need to have DHCP running. DCHP traffic would go to and from your
    existing router; the RasPi AP would just pass it through in both
    directions.

    David
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  • From druck@news@druck.org.uk to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Jan 12 08:37:06 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:
    Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the
    RPi5.

    The Raspberry Pi 3B+, 4 and 5 have both 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wifi bands, the
    Zero W, Zero 2W and older Pi's only have 2.4GHz

    ---druck
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Jan 12 11:36:55 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 22:37, David Higton wrote:
    In message <10k0tjd$4hee$5@dont-email.me>
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:

    I installed OpenWRT on an RPi4 a few weeks ago,
    and it was very successful as an AP, although the need for it didn't last >>> long (my son installed a new mesh network, which gave whole house
    coverage). Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the >>> RPi5.

    I dont want to go that far and replace existing DHCP allocation etc.

    You would set it up as an access point, not as a router. It would not
    need to have DHCP running. DCHP traffic would go to and from your
    existing router; the RasPi AP would just pass it through in both
    directions.

    Sigh, eggs, grandmother.

    That is why one of the solutions posted was rejected. It didnt do that.

    David
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Jan 12 20:16:30 2026
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    In message <10k2bri$272ps$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:
    Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the RPi5.

    The Raspberry Pi 3B+, 4 and 5 have both 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wifi bands, the
    Zero W, Zero 2W and older Pi's only have 2.4GHz

    Sorry, I should have been clearer. It only does one band at once.
    There is only one radio.

    David
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Jan 13 09:06:13 2026
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    On 12/01/2026 20:16, David Higton wrote:
    In message <10k2bri$272ps$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:
    Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the RPi5.

    The Raspberry Pi 3B+, 4 and 5 have both 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wifi bands, the
    Zero W, Zero 2W and older Pi's only have 2.4GHz

    Sorry, I should have been clearer. It only does one band at once.
    There is only one radio.

    David

    Does that preclude 2 band operation?
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  • From mm0fmf@none@invalid.com to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Jan 13 13:27:40 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    I may be wrong and sometimes am but I thought all you needed to add was
    edit /etc/sysctl.conf and ensure it contains "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1",
    save and reboot. Mine came with the line in there but commented out.

    You need to allocate IP for ethernet and the TV manually and maybe play
    with routing.

    I have it running on a PI somewhere, I'll dig it out.





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  • From druck@news@druck.org.uk to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Jan 13 14:45:44 2026
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    On 12/01/2026 20:16, David Higton wrote:
    In message <10k2bri$272ps$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:
    Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the RPi5.

    The Raspberry Pi 3B+, 4 and 5 have both 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wifi bands, the
    Zero W, Zero 2W and older Pi's only have 2.4GHz

    Sorry, I should have been clearer. It only does one band at once.
    There is only one radio.

    You can always add another USB WiFi dongle if you want to act as an
    access point on both bands simultaneously.

    ---druck
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Jan 13 14:52:53 2026
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    On 13/01/2026 13:27, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    But I have never seen it configured as a *bridge* to the network and
    DHCP server via the Ethernet.

    I may be wrong and sometimes am but I thought all you needed to add was
    edit /etc/sysctl.conf and ensure it contains "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1",
    save and reboot. Mine came with the line in there but commented out.

    You need to allocate IP for ethernet and the TV manually and maybe play
    with routing.

    I have it running on a PI somewhere, I'll dig it out.


    That would be kind




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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Jan 13 14:55:15 2026
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    On 13/01/2026 14:45, druck wrote:
    On 12/01/2026 20:16, David Higton wrote:
    In message <10k2bri$272ps$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 11/01/2026 14:40, David Higton wrote:
    Note that the RPi4 only does one wifi band; I don't know the RPi5.

    The Raspberry Pi 3B+, 4 and 5 have both 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wifi bands, the
    Zero W, Zero 2W and older Pi's only have 2.4GHz

    Sorry, I should have been clearer.-a It only does one band at once.
    There is only one radio.

    You can always add another USB WiFi dongle if you want to act as an
    access point on both bands simultaneously.

    ---druck

    I saw something (hostapd) that implies it can in fact do both...

    Well in due course I will find out.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Jan 13 23:52:44 2026
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    On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 13:27:40 +0000, mm0fmf wrote:

    I may be wrong and sometimes am but I thought all you needed to add
    was edit /etc/sysctl.conf and ensure it contains
    "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1", save and reboot.

    Set that line in /etc/sysctl.conf, and also do it manually this one
    time, just to save a reboot.
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