• Trump Tried To Steal The 2020 Election

    From trump is a traitor@Deasi@GodSquad.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Sat Feb 7 16:02:15 2026
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    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    Wouldn't it be nice if he went to jail and ended up like Epstein?

    The election-meddling indictment against Trump is sprawling. Here's a breakdown of the case
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    Donald Trump has been charged by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The charges include conspiracy to defraud the United States government and witness tampering. (Aug. 1)
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
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    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks about an indictment of former President Donald Trump, Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, at a Department of Justice office in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
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    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks about an indictment of former President Donald Trump, Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, at a Department of Justice office in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
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    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
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    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
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    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
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    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
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    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)
    By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER
    Updated 10:56 PM EST, August 1, 2023
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    Donald Trump for years has promoted baseless claims that the 2020 election
    was stolen from him. In truth, Trump was the one who tried to steal the election, federal prosecutors said Tuesday in a sprawling indictment that paints the former president as desperate to cling to power he knew had been stripped away by voters.

    The Justice Department indictment accuses Trump of brazenly conspiring with allies to spread falsehoods and concoct schemes intended to overturn his election loss to President Joe Biden as his legal challenges floundered in court.

    The felony charges brought by special counsel Jack Smith are built around
    the words of White House lawyers and others in his inner circle who
    repeatedly told Trump there was no fraud.

    It's the third time this year the early front-runner in the 2024 Republican presidential primary has been charged in a criminal case. But it's the
    first case to try to hold Trump responsible for his efforts to remain in
    power during the chaotic weeks between his election loss and the attack by
    his supporters on the U. S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
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    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks about an indictment of former President Donald Trump, Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2023, at a Department of Justice office in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
    Takeaways from the Trump indictment that alleges a campaign of 'fraud and deceit'

    Trump has said he did nothing wrong, and has accused Smith and the Justice Department of trying to harm his 2024 campaign.

    Here's a look at the charges Trump faces and other key issues in the indictment:

    ____

    WHAT IS TRUMP CHARGED WITH?

    Trump is charged with four counts: obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud the U.
    S. and conspiracy to prevent others from carrying out their constitutional rights.

    In the obstruction charge u which carries penalties of up to 20 years in prison u the official proceeding refers to the Jan. 6, 2021, joint session
    of Congress at which electoral votes were counted in order to certify Biden
    as the official winner. Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding also carries a maximum of 20 years in prison.

    That obstruction charge has been brought against hundreds of the more than 1,000 people charged in the Jan. 6 riot, including members of the far-right Oath Keepers and Proud Boys extremist groups. More than 100 people have
    been convicted at trial or pleaded guilty to the offense.

    Conspiracy to defraud the U. S. , which is punishable by up to five years
    in prison, prohibits efforts to obstruct or interfere with government functions "by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest, " the Supreme Court has held. The indictment alleges that Trump used "dishonesty, fraud and deceit" to obstruct the counting and certifying
    of the election results.

    Trump had the right to contest the election u and even falsely claim that
    he had won, indictment says. The charges, however, stem from what
    prosecutors say were illegal efforts to subvert the election results and
    block the peaceful transfer of power.

    The indictment alleges a weekslong plot that began with pressure on state lawmakers and election officials to change electoral votes from Biden to Trump, and then evolved into organizing fake slates of pro-Trump electors
    to be sent to Congress.

    Trump and his allies also attempted to use the Justice Department to
    conduct bogus election-fraud investigations in order to boost his fake electors' scheme, the indictment says.

    As Jan. 6 approached, Trump and his allies pressured Vice President Mike
    Pence to reject certain electoral votes, and when that failed, the former president directed his supporters to go to the Capitol to obstruct
    Congress' certification of the vote, the indictment alleges.

    Finally, the indictment says, Trump and his allies tried to exploit his supporters' attack on the Capitol by redoubling their efforts to spread election lies and convince members of Congress to further delay the certification of Biden's victory.

    "Each of these conspiracies u which built on the widespread mistrust the Defendant was creating through pervasive and destabilizing lies about
    election fraud u targeted a bedrock function of the United States federal government: the nation's process of collecting, counting, and certifying
    the results of the presidential election, " the indictment says.

    WHAT IS THE 'CONSPIRACY AGAINST RIGHTS' CHARGE?

    Trump is accused of violating a post-Civil War era civil rights statute
    that makes it a crime to conspire to interfere with rights that are
    guaranteed by the Constitution, in this case: the right to vote and have
    one's vote counted. It's punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

    The provision was originally part of a set of laws passed in 1870 in
    response to violence and intimidation by members of the Ku Klux Klan aimed
    at keeping Black people from the polls.

    But it has has been used over the years in a wide-range of election fraud cases, including to prosecute conspiracies to stuff ballot boxes or not
    count certain votes. The conspiracy doesn't have to be successful, meaning
    the fraud doesn't have to actually affect the election.

    WAS ANYONE ELSE CHARGED?

    Trump is the only defendant charged in the indictment, which mentions six co-conspirators. The six people are not explicitly named, but the
    indictment includes details that make it possible to identify some of them. It's unclear why they weren't charged or whether they will be added to the indictment at a later date.

    The co-conspirators include an attorney "who was willing to spread
    knowingly false claims and pursue strategies" that Trump's 2020 campaign attorneys would not, and an attorney whose "unfounded claims of election fraud" Trump privately acknowledged to others sounded "crazy. " Another co- conspirator is a political consultant who helped submit fake slates of electors for Trump.


    Trump is already scheduled to stand trial in March in the New York case stemming from hush-money payments made during the 2016 campaign and in May
    in the federal case in Florida stemming from classified documents found at
    his Mar-a-Lago estate.


    Unlike in Florida, where Republicans have made steady inroads in recent
    years, Trump will likely face a challenging jury pool in overwhelmingly Democratic Washington, D. C. Of the roughly 100 people who have gone to
    trial in the Jan. 6 attack, only two people have been cleared of all
    charges and those cases were decided by judges, not juries.
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Sun Feb 8 05:47:20 2026
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    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Sun Feb 8 07:09:00 2026
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    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?


    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term,
    is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for
    three more years. Hint: a lot.


    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those
    that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not
    matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here.
    It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It
    does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It
    only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a
    year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is the documentation to establish that?


    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you? What a
    joke. That's not a free country. That's a police state. You are a
    fascist.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Sun Feb 8 14:31:29 2026
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    "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in news:w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad:

    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?


    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's
    term, is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this
    up for three more years. Hint: a lot.



    All dictators need a foreign boogeyman
    to rail against so the voters will excuse
    their power grabs. Reagan rallied us against
    Russia while he embraced illegals, Trump
    rallies us against illegals while he ebraces
    Russia.



    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
    leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
    they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
    for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
    It works the same in any country.o
    ~ Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trial
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Sun Feb 8 16:55:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:

    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?


    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term,
    is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for
    three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.



    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those
    that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not
    matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here.
    It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It
    does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It
    only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a
    year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so,
    where is the documentation to establish that?


    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether >you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    What a
    joke. That's not a free country. That's a police state. You are a >fascist.

    ID is required for just about everything today. I have had
    one since I was 12.
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Sun Feb 8 17:33:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term,
    is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for
    three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.


    Hopefully Jesus comes back.


    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those
    that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not
    matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here. >>> It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It
    does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It
    only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a
    year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so,
    where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether
    you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.


    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no
    one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker.
    They won't ask if I am from south of our border. How would your plan to
    check people's docs work?


    What a
    joke. That's not a free country. That's a police state. You are a
    fascist.

    ID is required for just about everything today. I have had
    one since I was 12.


    I carry my driver's license with me, to be sure.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 05:07:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:

    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term,
    is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for
    three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.


    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.



    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those
    that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not
    matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here. >>>> It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It
    does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It >>>> only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a >>>> year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so, >>>> where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether >>> you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.


    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very >meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no
    one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker.

    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.

    They won't ask if I am from south of our border. How would your plan to >check people's docs work?

    Not my problem. That would be the responsibility of the
    Federal Government since there are several possibilities. I
    prefer a national ID card with picture and backed by a
    biometric database including fingerprints and DNA with
    extreme penalties for false documents or database
    alterations.



    What a
    joke. That's not a free country. That's a police state. You are a
    fascist.

    ID is required for just about everything today. I have had
    one since I was 12.


    I carry my driver's license with me, to be sure.

    Doesn't everyone?
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 08:46:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2/9/26 5:07 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term, >>>> is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for >>>> three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.

    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.


    Perhaps, but reading the words attributed to him is proof to those who
    can hear what he said, as with some other things in the Bible that
    prophesy our present era.


    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those >>>>> that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not >>>>> matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here. >>>>> It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It >>>>> does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It >>>>> only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a >>>>> year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so, >>>>> where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether >>>> you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very
    meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no
    one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker.

    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.


    Well, yeah, they could be white people, but is that statistically
    significant, here? Trump's wife is European, even. The reality is that they're gonna profile Latin American or African-descent-with-accent people.


    They won't ask if I am from south of our border. How would your plan to
    check people's docs work?

    Not my problem. That would be the responsibility of the
    Federal Government since there are several possibilities. I
    prefer a national ID card with picture and backed by a
    biometric database including fingerprints and DNA with
    extreme penalties for false documents or database
    alterations.


    Sounds like an idea, but we have to remember that it would need
    something to confirm it as well - not all citizens have all their
    documents lined up, like you and I did to get Real ID, etc.


    What a
    joke. That's not a free country. That's a police state. You are a
    fascist.

    ID is required for just about everything today. I have had
    one since I was 12.

    I carry my driver's license with me, to be sure.

    Doesn't everyone?


    You would think.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 10:26:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 08:46:35 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <%yliR.378884$rZwb.60580@fx13.iad> wrote:

    On 2/9/26 5:07 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term, >>>>> is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for >>>>> three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.

    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.


    Perhaps, but reading the words attributed to him is proof to those who
    can hear what he said, as with some other things in the Bible that
    prophesy our present era.

    As usual, first believe and then you will believe.

    And still no evidence.



    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those >>>>>> that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not >>>>>> matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here. >>>>>> It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It >>>>>> does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It >>>>>> only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a >>>>>> year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so, >>>>>> where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether >>>>> you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very >>> meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no
    one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker.

    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.


    Well, yeah, they could be white people, but is that statistically >significant, here? Trump's wife is European, even. The reality is that >they're gonna profile Latin American or African-descent-with-accent people.

    As I said, deport them all.



    They won't ask if I am from south of our border. How would your plan to >>> check people's docs work?

    Not my problem. That would be the responsibility of the
    Federal Government since there are several possibilities. I
    prefer a national ID card with picture and backed by a
    biometric database including fingerprints and DNA with
    extreme penalties for false documents or database
    alterations.


    Sounds like an idea, but we have to remember that it would need
    something to confirm it as well - not all citizens have all their
    documents lined up, like you and I did to get Real ID, etc.

    There are few undocumented births today and all legal
    immigrants have documentation. There are procedures for
    those without birth certificated to legally create one.



    What a
    joke. That's not a free country. That's a police state. You are a >>>>> fascist.

    ID is required for just about everything today. I have had
    one since I was 12.

    I carry my driver's license with me, to be sure.

    Doesn't everyone?


    You would think.
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 11:53:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2/9/26 10:26 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 08:46:35 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <%yliR.378884$rZwb.60580@fx13.iad> wrote:
    On 2/9/26 5:07 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term, >>>>>> is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for >>>>>> three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.

    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.

    Perhaps, but reading the words attributed to him is proof to those who
    can hear what he said, as with some other things in the Bible that
    prophesy our present era.

    As usual, first believe and then you will believe.

    And still no evidence.


    I've seen the connection between things he and other prophets said, and
    our own era.


    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those >>>>>>> that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not >>>>>>> matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here.
    It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It >>>>>>> does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It >>>>>>> only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a >>>>>>> year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be
    prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so, >>>>>>> where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether >>>>>> you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very >>>> meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no
    one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker.

    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.

    Well, yeah, they could be white people, but is that statistically
    significant, here? Trump's wife is European, even. The reality is that
    they're gonna profile Latin American or African-descent-with-accent people.

    As I said, deport them all.


    It's a little hollow considering how whites came to the land.


    They won't ask if I am from south of our border. How would your plan to >>>> check people's docs work?

    Not my problem. That would be the responsibility of the
    Federal Government since there are several possibilities. I
    prefer a national ID card with picture and backed by a
    biometric database including fingerprints and DNA with
    extreme penalties for false documents or database
    alterations.

    Sounds like an idea, but we have to remember that it would need
    something to confirm it as well - not all citizens have all their
    documents lined up, like you and I did to get Real ID, etc.

    There are few undocumented births today and all legal
    immigrants have documentation. There are procedures for
    those without birth certificated to legally create one.


    We should certainly encourage everyone to get up to date, I just want to ensure there's a viable path for that. As long as that is so, I'm OK
    with having more requirements for proving ID in specific situations.
    But we're a long way from it, presently.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 15:28:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 11:53:39 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <nioiR.223838$uL07.75148@fx44.iad> wrote:

    On 2/9/26 10:26 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 08:46:35 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <%yliR.378884$rZwb.60580@fx13.iad> wrote:
    On 2/9/26 5:07 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term, >>>>>>> is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for >>>>>>> three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.

    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.

    Perhaps, but reading the words attributed to him is proof to those who
    can hear what he said, as with some other things in the Bible that
    prophesy our present era.

    As usual, first believe and then you will believe.

    And still no evidence.


    I've seen the connection between things he and other prophets said, and
    our own era.

    But it was a bit vague wasn't it? Were specific detail
    included or interpreted? What is such a "connection"?

    Were facts stated?




    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those >>>>>>>> that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not >>>>>>>> matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here.
    It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It >>>>>>>> does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It
    only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a >>>>>>>> year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be >>>>>>>> prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so,
    where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether
    you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very >>>>> meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no >>>>> one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker. >>>>
    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.

    Well, yeah, they could be white people, but is that statistically
    significant, here? Trump's wife is European, even. The reality is that >>> they're gonna profile Latin American or African-descent-with-accent people. >>
    As I said, deport them all.


    It's a little hollow considering how whites came to the land.

    Several hundred years ago. I bet you would be hard pressed
    to find very many countries that did not belong to someone
    else in the past. In fact land was occupied by a succession
    of Native American tribes before the landing of Columbus.

    The Clovis and Folsom cultures to name two.



    They won't ask if I am from south of our border. How would your plan to >>>>> check people's docs work?

    Not my problem. That would be the responsibility of the
    Federal Government since there are several possibilities. I
    prefer a national ID card with picture and backed by a
    biometric database including fingerprints and DNA with
    extreme penalties for false documents or database
    alterations.

    Sounds like an idea, but we have to remember that it would need
    something to confirm it as well - not all citizens have all their
    documents lined up, like you and I did to get Real ID, etc.

    There are few undocumented births today and all legal
    immigrants have documentation. There are procedures for
    those without birth certificated to legally create one.


    We should certainly encourage everyone to get up to date, I just want to >ensure there's a viable path for that. As long as that is so, I'm OK
    with having more requirements for proving ID in specific situations.
    But we're a long way from it, presently.
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 15:43:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2/9/26 3:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 11:53:39 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <nioiR.223838$uL07.75148@fx44.iad> wrote:
    On 2/9/26 10:26 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 08:46:35 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <%yliR.378884$rZwb.60580@fx13.iad> wrote:
    On 2/9/26 5:07 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor
    <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029?

    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term,
    is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for >>>>>>>> three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.

    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.

    Perhaps, but reading the words attributed to him is proof to those who >>>> can hear what he said, as with some other things in the Bible that
    prophesy our present era.

    As usual, first believe and then you will believe.

    And still no evidence.

    I've seen the connection between things he and other prophets said, and
    our own era.

    But it was a bit vague wasn't it? Were specific detail
    included or interpreted? What is such a "connection"?

    Were facts stated?


    Well, part of this has to do with my own identity, my first and last
    initials are JC for a reason. Isaiah 53 describes a period of my life
    in remarkable accuracy. Jesus also references me, saying God gives me
    his "seal of approval".


    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those >>>>>>>>> that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not >>>>>>>>> matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here.
    It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It >>>>>>>>> does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It
    only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a
    year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be >>>>>>>>> prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so,
    where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether
    you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very >>>>>> meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no >>>>>> one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker. >>>>>
    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.

    Well, yeah, they could be white people, but is that statistically
    significant, here? Trump's wife is European, even. The reality is that >>>> they're gonna profile Latin American or African-descent-with-accent people.

    As I said, deport them all.

    It's a little hollow considering how whites came to the land.

    Several hundred years ago. I bet you would be hard pressed
    to find very many countries that did not belong to someone
    else in the past. In fact land was occupied by a succession
    of Native American tribes before the landing of Columbus.

    The Clovis and Folsom cultures to name two.


    You can compare European domination to that of other dominant cultures,
    but it doesn't really work. The Roman Empire, and later the British and others, were uniquely self-righteous and systematic, and aided by their connection to Satan. This is why it was inevitable there would be a
    Hitler figure, the odds of the first person to make it through the
    spiritual battle not being Caucasian were approximately zero. Satan
    always had that in his pocket, it would make for a great showdown during
    the period we've been in since the early 20th century, with synthetic
    drugs. I can see why the U.S. right wing has moved in the direction of forgetting about me, for all my greatness I have many faults, I admit
    it, I could have been like a black Hitler in a way, except that I've
    overcome that. I don't have rage and hatred. I sympathize with the
    Caucasian right wing, they aren't all deliberate in their evil, what
    really matters is getting through to the genuinely new world order that
    I can institute.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,alt.atheism on Mon Feb 9 18:38:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 15:43:49 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <9GriR.96205$fpo1.38602@fx38.iad> wrote:

    On 2/9/26 3:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 11:53:39 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <nioiR.223838$uL07.75148@fx44.iad> wrote:
    On 2/9/26 10:26 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 08:46:35 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <%yliR.378884$rZwb.60580@fx13.iad> wrote:
    On 2/9/26 5:07 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 17:33:15 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Oa8iR.672581$0JH.152890@fx16.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 4:55 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 07:09:00 -0500, "Joel W. Crump"
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <w1%hR.80273$0G81.56332@fx24.iad> wrote:
    On 2/8/26 5:47 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:02:15 -0000 (UTC), trump is a traitor >>>>>>>>>> <Deasi@GodSquad.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <10m7nm7$2l7lj$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    He's a dirtbag who everybody wants to see have a stroke.

    TDS is alive and well. What will you do after Jan 20, 2029? >>>>>>>>>
    The question you should be asking, relative to the end of Trump's term,
    is how many illegals will still be here, even if ICE keeps this up for
    three more years. Hint: a lot.

    We can't deport them as fast as they came but we can get as
    many as possible. Hopefully the next president will
    continue the efforts.

    Hopefully Jesus comes back.

    I have yet to see any unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and
    credible evidence that any such person ever existed.

    Perhaps, but reading the words attributed to him is proof to those who >>>>> can hear what he said, as with some other things in the Bible that
    prophesy our present era.

    As usual, first believe and then you will believe.

    And still no evidence.

    I've seen the connection between things he and other prophets said, and
    our own era.

    But it was a bit vague wasn't it? Were specific detail
    included or interpreted? What is such a "connection"?

    Were facts stated?


    Well, part of this has to do with my own identity, my first and last >initials are JC for a reason. Isaiah 53 describes a period of my life
    in remarkable accuracy. Jesus also references me, saying God gives me
    his "seal of approval".

    None of which means anything. No evidence is involved.



    -- Every person in the US is here either legally or illegally. Those >>>>>>>>>> that are here illegally should be afraid. Be very afraid. It does not
    matter how long you have been here. It does not matter why you are here.
    It does not matter what you have done legally while you were here. It
    does not matter what any relative may have done while you were here. It
    only matters that you are here illegally. It may take a day, a week, a
    year, or longer but we will find you and we will deport you. Be >>>>>>>>>> prepared. Deport them all. Due process: Q. Are you here legally? If so,
    where is the documentation to establish that?

    So you'd have no problem being harassed by an officer, inquiring whether
    you're here legally, just because they feel like asking you?

    They "harass" me now over driving, flying, going to a new
    doctor, and just about everything that requires
    documentation. I have no problem since I just show my DL
    (which is a Real ID) and go my way.

    I hear you, I did the Real ID thing, it was mandatory here, and I'm very
    meticulous with my documents, good for me, but the reality is that no >>>>>>> one is going to think I'm an illegal immigrant because I'm a cracker. >>>>>>
    As am I, but there are illegals from all over including
    Europe.

    Well, yeah, they could be white people, but is that statistically
    significant, here? Trump's wife is European, even. The reality is that >>>>> they're gonna profile Latin American or African-descent-with-accent people.

    As I said, deport them all.

    It's a little hollow considering how whites came to the land.

    Several hundred years ago. I bet you would be hard pressed
    to find very many countries that did not belong to someone
    else in the past. In fact land was occupied by a succession
    of Native American tribes before the landing of Columbus.

    The Clovis and Folsom cultures to name two.


    You can compare European domination to that of other dominant cultures,
    but it doesn't really work. The Roman Empire, and later the British and >others, were uniquely self-righteous and systematic, and aided by their >connection to Satan. This is why it was inevitable there would be a
    Hitler figure, the odds of the first person to make it through the
    spiritual battle not being Caucasian were approximately zero. Satan
    always had that in his pocket, it would make for a great showdown during
    the period we've been in since the early 20th century, with synthetic
    drugs. I can see why the U.S. right wing has moved in the direction of >forgetting about me, for all my greatness I have many faults, I admit
    it, I could have been like a black Hitler in a way, except that I've >overcome that. I don't have rage and hatred. I sympathize with the >Caucasian right wing, they aren't all deliberate in their evil, what
    really matters is getting through to the genuinely new world order that
    I can institute.


    Another nutcase.
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    National Socialist American Workers Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
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