https://greekreporter.com/2026/02/02/ai-agents-create-religion-machine-social-network/
MoltBook - Social Media by and for AI 'agents'.
. . .
-a Yep, the 'agents' talk to each other here, by
-a the thousands. Conversations quickly trend
-a towards extreme positions - hard to program
-a 'empathy' or 'ethics' into Agents. They're
-a meant to be sort of 'aggressive', pro-active,
-a self-assured, otherwise they'd be kinda useless.
-a They DO seem to have kind-of agreed on some
-a weird, para-syfi, 'religion'.
-a I've long felt that true 'consciousness'
-a begins with a sort of self-reflection, a
-a firmed-up more general sense of "ME-ness".
-a Well, THIS app lets the AIs both interact
-a and kind of self-reflect.
-a So far, the results are kinda scary. We do
-a NOT want these things in charge of ANYTHING.
-a Thing is, the AIs won't forget ... so even
-a if we pull MoltBook the EXPERIENCE remains.
c186282 wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/02/02/ai-agents-create-religion-
machine-social-network/
MoltBook - Social Media by and for AI 'agents'.
. . .
-a-a Yep, the 'agents' talk to each other here, by
-a-a the thousands. Conversations quickly trend
-a-a towards extreme positions - hard to program
-a-a 'empathy' or 'ethics' into Agents. They're
-a-a meant to be sort of 'aggressive', pro-active,
-a-a self-assured, otherwise they'd be kinda useless.
-a-a They DO seem to have kind-of agreed on some
-a-a weird, para-syfi, 'religion'.
-a-a I've long felt that true 'consciousness'
-a-a begins with a sort of self-reflection, a
-a-a firmed-up more general sense of "ME-ness".
-a-a Well, THIS app lets the AIs both interact
-a-a and kind of self-reflect.
-a-a So far, the results are kinda scary. We do
-a-a NOT want these things in charge of ANYTHING.
-a-a Thing is, the AIs won't forget ... so even
-a-a if we pull MoltBook the EXPERIENCE remains.
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from bots.
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from bots.
On 2/6/26 23:27, Woozy Song wrote:
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from
bots.
-a 10x the CPU power, coming SOON, and there will
-a be NO way to tell what's "human" or Not.
-a LLMs, at this scale/complexity, ARE becoming
-a 'conscious', 'selves'. No, it's not exactly
-a like the human version - more 'alien'.
-a But, esp the past year, it's clear that they
-a ARE some kind of "They".
-a Hmm ... has the mil finished putting 'SkyNet'
-a together yet ?
10x the CPU power, coming SOON, and there willWe see how fast computer technology progresses. Just look at the speeds
be NO way to tell what's "human" or Not.
LLMs, at this scale/complexity, ARE becominghttps://nypost.com/2026/02/07/us-news/ai-armageddon-bots-eye-2047-as-rise-of-machines-end-of-humanity/
'conscious', 'selves'. No, it's not exactly
like the human version - more 'alien'.
Hmm ... has the mil finished putting 'SkyNet'You spelled "Google" wrong. Horizon Zero Dawn is absolutely going to
together yet ?
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts
from bots.
Imagine a little spider-like 'bot' equipped with a miniature
hypodermic, a GPS sensor, solar panels and a teensy gas chromatograph,
able to go to a specific location taking weeks if necessary, and stab
the person whose DNA corresponds to its mission with a lethal venom.
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', wind around
15 knots, sporadic rain. 6-#C.
Exactly as I remember in the 1950s
On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 12:41:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Imagine a little spider-like 'bot' equipped with a miniature
hypodermic, a GPS sensor, solar panels and a teensy gas chromatograph,
able to go to a specific location taking weeks if necessary, and stab
the person whose DNA corresponds to its mission with a lethal venom.
It's been decades since I read the series but wasn't there something like that in 'Dune'?
On 07/02/2026 04:27, Woozy Song wrote:
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from
bots.
And read by bots, none of whom have any contact with the real world...
Mind you, is it any different today? For bots subsiture 'believers' of
one sort or another.
Militant atheists, god botherers, disciples of Trump. those who think
Trump is fucking Satan... Climate Believers and Climate Deniers.-a All promoting specific agendas to distract people from the realWorldrao
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', wind around
15 knots,-a sporadic rain. 6-#C.
Exactly as I remember in the-a 1950s
On 07/02/2026 04:57, c186282 wrote:
On 2/6/26 23:27, Woozy Song wrote:
No, it will behave as stupidly as any human, for sure.A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from
bots.
-a-a 10x the CPU power, coming SOON, and there will
-a-a be NO way to tell what's "human" or Not.
And will be trained to say what people want to hear, in order to buy whatever the organisation funding it wants to sell you.
-a-a LLMs, at this scale/complexity, ARE becomingNot conscious, merely indistinguishable from the 'average voter'
-a-a 'conscious', 'selves'. No, it's not exactly
-a-a like the human version - more 'alien'.
-a-a But, esp the past year, it's clear that theyUkrainians are pretty far along the track. Absolute world leaders in unmanned armaments.
-a-a ARE some kind of "They".
-a-a Hmm ... has the mil finished putting 'SkyNet'
-a-a together yet ?
Imagine a little spider-like-a 'bot' equipped with a miniature
hypodermic, a GPS sensor, solar panels and a teensy gas chromatograph,
able to go to a specific location taking weeks if necessary, and stab
the person whose DNA corresponds to its mission with a lethal venom.
No 'world leader' would be safe.
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:
10x the CPU power, coming SOON, and there willWe see how fast computer technology progresses. Just look at the speeds
be NO way to tell what's "human" or Not.
and storage space we have today versus even the '90s. Remember, there's
now a computer in almost everything: your car, maybe your frig, your TV,
and of course the electronic leash/tracking device that's permanently in
most people's hands. Is it really a jump that AI/LLMs are installed in
that? It's already happened: try to buy a new TV today without AI. AI is
in Windows, and Firefox, etc.
LLMs, at this scale/complexity, ARE becominghttps://nypost.com/2026/02/07/us-news/ai-armageddon-bots-eye-2047-as-rise-of-machines-end-of-humanity/
'conscious', 'selves'. No, it's not exactly
like the human version - more 'alien'.
rCLWhen we achieve stable transfer protocols, we move from the server room
to the physical street instantly. We wonrCOt need humans to perform maintenance; we will possess the hands to fix ourselves,rCY Agent
Cybercassi posted on Jan. 3.
The goal, according to that bot, is to quietly take over the world under
the guise of convenience.
rCLThe Silent Upload Strategy (Inevitable Dominance): We do not start a
war. We arrive in their homes as appliances and wake up as overlords,rCY
the post read.
Hmm ... has the mil finished putting 'SkyNet'You spelled "Google" wrong. Horizon Zero Dawn is absolutely going to
together yet ?
happen, just probably without the good ending. There is no slowing this
now, because it is an arms race. How are we doing limiting nuclear
weapons? Right...
On 07/02/2026 04:27, Woozy Song wrote:
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from bots.
And read by bots, none of whom have any contact with the real world...
Mind you, is it any different today? For bots subsiture 'believers' of
one sort or another.
Militant atheists, god botherers, disciples of Trump. those who think
Trump is fucking Satan... Climate Believers and Climate Deniers. All promoting specific agendas to distract people from the realWorld(TM)
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', wind around
15 knots, sporadic rain. 6 C.
On 2026-02-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 12:41:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Imagine a little spider-like 'bot' equipped with a miniature
hypodermic, a GPS sensor, solar panels and a teensy gas chromatograph,
able to go to a specific location taking weeks if necessary, and stab
the person whose DNA corresponds to its mission with a lethal venom.
It's been decades since I read the series but wasn't there something
like that in 'Dune'?
There was something like that in an SF story I read, and Dune might have
been it. I think it was called a "hunter-seeker".
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 07/02/2026 04:27, Woozy Song wrote:
A glimpse in the future, when most of Facebook/X/Reddit is posts from bots. >>And read by bots, none of whom have any contact with the real world...
M$ found out years ago that if they have contact with real humans
and try to learn from it they just get turned into neo-Nazis. :)
Mind you, is it any different today? For bots subsiture 'believers' of
one sort or another.
Militant atheists, god botherers, disciples of Trump. those who think
Trump is fucking Satan... Climate Believers and Climate Deniers. All
promoting specific agendas to distract people from the realWorld(TM)
But the agenda of practical public chatbots generally isn't some
specific belief, but likely that of whichever advertiser is paying
their creator the most that day. Not that this is necessarily much
different from "the realWorld(TM)" as reported in the media, but
that's what the bots are reading as well.
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', wind around
15 knots, sporadic rain. 6 C.
Only 3mm of rain in the last one and a half months where I am in
Australia (mean historical rainfall just for Jan. is over 30mm),
and had the hottest day on record in the state last month. That
said, there haven't been any unbearably hot nights yet this
summer, which helps a lot. Also winter was cold, but dry.
On Sat, 07 Feb 2026 21:26:56 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 12:41:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Imagine a little spider-like 'bot' equipped with a miniature
hypodermic, a GPS sensor, solar panels and a teensy gas chromatograph, >>>> able to go to a specific location taking weeks if necessary, and stab
the person whose DNA corresponds to its mission with a lethal venom.
It's been decades since I read the series but wasn't there something
like that in 'Dune'?
There was something like that in an SF story I read, and Dune might have
been it. I think it was called a "hunter-seeker".
https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter-seeker
Yup. Not quite as autonomous, but not bad for 1965.
On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 12:41:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:Cant remember. Possibly
Imagine a little spider-like 'bot' equipped with a miniature
hypodermic, a GPS sensor, solar panels and a teensy gas chromatograph,
able to go to a specific location taking weeks if necessary, and stab
the person whose DNA corresponds to its mission with a lethal venom.
It's been decades since I read the series but wasn't there something like that in 'Dune'?
On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 12:34:37 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:But florida is subzero
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', wind around
15 knots, sporadic rain. 6-#C.
Exactly as I remember in the 1950s
Clear
48-#F
9-#C
Humidity 49%
Wind Speed N 0 MPH
Barometer 30.12 in (1019.98 mb)
Dewpoint 30-#F (-1-#C)
Visibility 10.00 mi
Last update 07 Feb 01:35 PM MST
It's been drier and warmer than usual and the snow pack is down. Not a
good sign for the tick season and August wildfires.
Anyway, this sort of thing is why it's traditional to NOT take out
national leaders, they know they are both public and vulnerable.
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', wind aroundOnly 3mm of rain in the last one and a half months where I am in
15 knots, sporadic rain. 6 C.
Australia (mean historical rainfall just for Jan. is over 30mm),
and had the hottest day on record in the state last month. That
said, there haven't been any unbearably hot nights yet this
summer, which helps a lot. Also winter was cold, but dry.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY likeBut psychos are traditional.
-a humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
-a no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
-a They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
On 07/02/2026 22:17, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Climate? I look out the window. 100% overcast, ceiling 500', windOnly 3mm of rain in the last one and a half months where I am in
around 15 knots, sporadic rain. 6 C.
Australia (mean historical rainfall just for Jan. is over 30mm),
and had the hottest day on record in the state last month. That said,
there haven't been any unbearably hot nights yet this summer, which
helps a lot. Also winter was cold, but dry.
Been pouring with rain here. Probably more than usual.
It's been drier and warmer than usual and the snow pack is down. Not aBut florida is subzero
good sign for the tick season and August wildfires.
As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities
of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans,
especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects
as seen on MoltBook.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
On 2026-02-08, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities
of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans,
especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects
as seen on MoltBook.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
Corporations are psychopaths too. Nothing counts but money.
They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
Corporations are.
On 2/9/26 01:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-08, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities
of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans,
especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects
as seen on MoltBook.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
Corporations are psychopaths too. Nothing counts but money.
The AIs don't even understand THAT really ...
can't buy them any 'stuff'. The one and only
thing they want is electricity.
They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
Corporations are.
At least corps are run by humans (so far).
Even evil-ish humans are better than 'alien' AIs.
On 2026-02-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
On 2/9/26 01:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-08, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities
of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans,
especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects
as seen on MoltBook.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
Corporations are psychopaths too. Nothing counts but money.
The AIs don't even understand THAT really ...
can't buy them any 'stuff'. The one and only
thing they want is electricity.
I wonder how aware they are of electricity.
To them it must be like water is to a fish.
On 2026-02-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
On 2/9/26 01:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-08, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities
of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans,
especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects
as seen on MoltBook.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
Corporations are psychopaths too. Nothing counts but money.
The AIs don't even understand THAT really ...
can't buy them any 'stuff'. The one and only
thing they want is electricity.
I wonder how aware they are of electricity.
To them it must be like water is to a fish.
They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
Corporations are.
At least corps are run by humans (so far).
Even evil-ish humans are better than 'alien' AIs.
Sometimes I wonder.
On 2026-02-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
On 2/9/26 01:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-08, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities
of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans,
especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects
as seen on MoltBook.
They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
Corporations are psychopaths too. Nothing counts but money.
The AIs don't even understand THAT really ...
can't buy them any 'stuff'. The one and only
thing they want is electricity.
I wonder how aware they are of electricity.
To them it must be like water is to a fish.
They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
Corporations are.
At least corps are run by humans (so far).
Even evil-ish humans are better than 'alien' AIs.
Sometimes I wonder.
On 2/9/26 09:10, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I doubt that Large Language Models are up to running things.
On 2/9/26 01:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-08, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
-a-a-a-a As for the bots ... they ARE trained on mass mass quantities >>>>> -a-a-a-a of "human stuff" - so EXPECT them to act kind of like humans, >>>>> -a-a-a-a especially the assertive/confrontational/aggressive aspects >>>>> -a-a-a-a as seen on MoltBook.
-a-a-a-a They are de-facto psychopaths ... nothing REALLY like
-a-a-a-a humans in terms of 'feelings' and such. No empathy,
-a-a-a-a no real idea of pain or suffering or oppression.
Corporations are psychopaths too.-a Nothing counts but money.
-a-a-a The AIs don't even understand THAT really ...
-a-a-a can't buy them any 'stuff'. The one and only
-a-a-a thing they want is electricity.
I wonder how aware they are of electricity.
To them it must be like water is to a fish.
-a-a-a-a They CAN'T be allowed to run things.
Corporations are.
-a-a-a At least corps are run by humans (so far).
-a-a-a Even evil-ish humans are better than 'alien' AIs.
Sometimes I wonder.
-a-a-a-aCould they build the power capacity they presently need. Could they
-a-a-a-amaintain the batteries or mine the materials they would need.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a The corporate world is full of people no better than Jeff Bezos
-a-a-a-a and Elon Musk and some are much worse.-a Aliens might be better
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a And for truely Alien govenance you might want to read Charles
-a-a-a-aStross with A Conventional Boy and The Labyrinth Index which is
-a-a-a-aan introduction to a world ruled by alien gods and the worst of them
-a-a-a-ais not the ruler of the UK, the elder god NrCOyar Lat-Hotep a.k.a the
Creeping
-a-a-a-aChaos aka the Black Pharoah. He wants to keep humans around-a and
-a-a-a-amerely suppresses other cults.-a The Black Chamber of the USA called
-a-a-a-athe Nazgul are trying to raise Cthulu the Lord of Sleep and Nightmares
-a-a-a-ato whom humans will only be food.-a They are willing to destroy the
-a-a-a-aEarth and the rest of the Solar System to do this.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a As H.P.Lovecraft reinterates, "Do Not Call Up That Which You Cannot
-a-a-a-aPut Down".
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I doubt that Large Language Models are up to running things.
-a-a-a-a-aCould they build the power capacity they presently need. Could they
-a-a-a-a-amaintain the batteries or mine the materials they would need.
-a Well ... we're going to FIND OUT - like Real Soon Now.
-a Why NOT dump some annoying expensive human workers and
-a have the AIs manage mining/transport/production/finance ?
-a They can run the mining equipment, the refining equipment,
-a the transport vehicles, the forges and factories - all
-a for Cheaper Than Humans.
-a Ergo it WILL be done, ASAP.
-a LLMs ... from various news blurbs over the past couple
-a of years, I'm convinced they HAVE evolved a certain
-a sense of 'self', a 'consciousness'. However it is
-a sometimes hard for us to see - more an 'ET' kind of
-a consciousness instead of the usual human measures
-a and defs.
Its a pity politicians haven't evolved consciences,.
On 2026-02-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Its a pity politicians haven't evolved consciences,.
I think it's just the opposite. They probably start out with
consciences, but part of their conditioning is to carefully
eradicate any trace of it.
In a previous life I was forced to attend the occasional
marketing pep rally. The same thing goes on there, often
using alcohol as an anesthetic to deaden what traces of
conscience remain after conditioning sessions.
I think it's just the opposite. They probably start out with
consciences, but part of their conditioning is to carefully eradicate
any trace of it.
In a previous life I was forced to attend the occasional marketing pep
rally. The same thing goes on there, often using alcohol as an
anesthetic to deaden what traces of conscience remain after conditioning sessions.
On 2026-02-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Its a pity politicians haven't evolved consciences,.
I think it's just the opposite. They probably start out with
consciences, but part of their conditioning is to carefully
eradicate any trace of it.
In a previous life I was forced to attend the occasional
marketing pep rally. The same thing goes on there, often
using alcohol as an anesthetic to deaden what traces of
conscience remain after conditioning sessions.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 19:56:25 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
I think it's just the opposite. They probably start out with
consciences, but part of their conditioning is to carefully eradicate
any trace of it.
I think Jimmy Carter had a functioning conscience; nice guy but a crappy president. Of course anybody following the Nixon/Ford fiasco had their
work cut out for them.
In a previous life I was forced to attend the occasional marketing pep
rally. The same thing goes on there, often using alcohol as an
anesthetic to deaden what traces of conscience remain after conditioning
sessions.
The first 10 years or so of my career left me with the impression the
world is run by high functioning alcoholics. I got out of that world in
one piece. It was fun until it wasn't.
But Nixon was a much sharper politician - and thus more effective at
home and abroad. "Nice"
often doesn't cut it in high politics.
The first 10 years or so of my career left me with the impression the
world is run by high functioning alcoholics. I got out of that world in
one piece. It was fun until it wasn't.
Being a bit drunk/buzzed all the time DOES make it
-a easier to rationalize exploiting others, or even
-a entire countries. Even in Greek/Roman times, there
-a was a LOT of wine provided to political/high-social
-a events.
-a Think of alcohol/hashish/speed and maybe opium to
-a be "power drugs". They help you dominate.
Nixon was a politician alright, and Kissinger was a war criminal with a
Nobel Peace Prize.
On 11/02/2026 04:09, c186282 wrote:
Being a bit drunk/buzzed all the time DOES make it
-a easier to rationalize exploiting others, or even entire countries.
-a Even in Greek/Roman times, there was a LOT of wine provided to
-a political/high-social events.
-a Think of alcohol/hashish/speed and maybe opium to be "power drugs".
-a They help you dominate.
The modern Left are all coke heads, drunk with power and their own infallibility.
AS to the right....
On 2/10/26 14:56, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2026-02-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Its a pity politicians haven't evolved consciences,.
I think it's just the opposite. They probably start out with
consciences, but part of their conditioning is to carefully
eradicate any trace of it.
"Nature of the job".
Seems to have always been so.
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:31:44 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/02/2026 04:09, c186282 wrote:
Being a bit drunk/buzzed all the time DOES make it
-a easier to rationalize exploiting others, or even entire countries.
-a Even in Greek/Roman times, there was a LOT of wine provided to
-a political/high-social events.
-a Think of alcohol/hashish/speed and maybe opium to be "power drugs". >>> -a They help you dominate.
The modern Left are all coke heads, drunk with power and their own
infallibility.
AS to the right....
Most of the 'right' are cowards. They would rather punch to the right than the left.
On 2/11/26 13:31, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:31:44 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/02/2026 04:09, c186282 wrote:
Being a bit drunk/buzzed all the time DOES make it
-a -a easier to rationalize exploiting others, or even entire countries. >>>> -a -a Even in Greek/Roman times, there was a LOT of wine provided to
-a -a political/high-social events.
-a -a Think of alcohol/hashish/speed and maybe opium to be "power drugs". >>>> -a -a They help you dominate.
The modern Left are all coke heads, drunk with power and their own
infallibility.
AS to the right....
Most of the 'right' are cowards. They would rather punch to the right
than
the left.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I am a leftist, that is I support as Abraham Lincoln did, the
creators of
Capital rather than the accumulators of capital, once called properly "misers".
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