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Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC
around 3.3 or so.

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?
Would we tolerate 'C' versions several years
old ?

Note, if installing, there's an ORDER ... FPC
and its source FIRST - THEN Laz.

Laz is STILL the best way to get a nice usable
GUI app in a big hurry. Nothing beats it. Full
gen-3 GUI development, fine fine details about
the look and feel are easy. Just drag and drop
and scale ... then set up to 50 little IF/THEN
params for each field.

Yea, yea, some of you HATE Pascal ...

But DO try Laz ... see a good alt.

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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:

Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC around 3.3 or so.

lazarus in Debian stable is 4.0 (with 4.4 in unstable). If yourCOre seeing something older yourCOre not using current Debian.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lazarus

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?

Debian is an unpaid volunteer project. If nobody who cares about a given language volunteers their time, the outcome is poor or nonexistent
support for that language.
--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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On 2026-01-13 10:03, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:

Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC around 3.3 or so.

lazarus in Debian stable is 4.0 (with 4.4 in unstable). If yourCOre seeing something older yourCOre not using current Debian.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lazarus

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -q lazarus
lazarus-4.4-lp156.77.11.x86_64
cer@Telcontar:~>

openSUSE Leap 15.6, which is generically ancient.

repo Development/Languages/Other

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?

Debian is an unpaid volunteer project. If nobody who cares about a given language volunteers their time, the outcome is poor or nonexistent
support for that language.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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On 1/13/26 04:03, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:

Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC around 3.3 or so.

lazarus in Debian stable is 4.0 (with 4.4 in unstable). If yourCOre seeing something older yourCOre not using current Debian.

MX

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lazarus

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?

Debian is an unpaid volunteer project. If nobody who cares about a given language volunteers their time, the outcome is poor or nonexistent
support for that language.

Delphi still sells (for a LOT) ... so there clearly
are people who care about Pascal.

OK, it's Pascal++ at this point.

They keep updating FORTRAN compilers, even COBOL
compilers. I suspect anti-Wirthism !!!

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On 1/13/26 05:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2026-01-13 10:03, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:

Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC around 3.3 or so.

lazarus in Debian stable is 4.0 (with 4.4 in unstable). If yourCOre seeing >> something older yourCOre not using current Debian.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lazarus

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -q lazarus
lazarus-4.4-lp156.77.11.x86_64
cer@Telcontar:~>

openSUSE Leap 15.6, which is generically ancient.

repo Development/Languages/Other

But I use a DebBuntu.

Anyway, the latest ver DID install cleanly, just
had to get it from the developers site.

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?

Debian is an unpaid volunteer project. If nobody who cares about a given
language volunteers their time, the outcome is poor or nonexistent
support for that language.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 12:55:40 -0500, c186282 wrote:

Anyway, the latest ver DID install cleanly, just had to get it from
the developers site.

I didn't do anything with it but Fedora 43 installed 4.4.
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 12:52:43 -0500, c186282 wrote:

OK, it's Pascal++ at this point.

It's been hanging out with C++ Builder too long.

They keep updating FORTRAN compilers, even COBOL compilers. I suspect
anti-Wirthism !!!

Wirth was a prolific author of languages nobody really liked. His last
shot, Oberon, isn't even in the top 100 at Tiobe. Delphi was made useful enough to make it to 9.

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