At Fri, 13 Feb 2026 02:42:20 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-02-13, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
At 11 Feb 2026 20:30:44 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:39:19 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
In Linux Mint, you can do this is in Update Manager. When you see
the kernel that is going to be updated, you right-click on the
square beside it and choose either "Ignore the current update for
this package." Or "Ignore all future updates for this package."
I seldom use the GUI in any distro. In this case 'sudo apt upgrade'
failed trying to install the 6.17 kernel. I id open Update Manager
but the kernel packages had been downloaded and didn't show.
Update Manager > View > Linux Kernels
Unfortunately, that won't let you set the default kernel for boot.
Note that some kernels are offered, but are "unsupported", such as
6.18.9, which was just added. You'll have to poke at grub to get it
to pick a kernel.
I asked Chatty about a gui tool to set the default kernel -- apparently
there is one called "grub-customizer", but it isn't in the Mint repos.
So under LinuxMint Cinammon how do I safely delete older kernels I don't use >> but are taking up space?
I remember trying this a year or two ago under MXLinux and the results were a spectacular failure
so obviously I missed something :)
TIA
Update Manager > View > Linux Kernels
You can remove kernels there.
At least, I'm pretty sure Cinnamon uses mintUpdate...does it?
Le 13-02-2026, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> a |-crit-a:
So under LinuxMint Cinammon how do I safely delete older kernels I don't use >> but are taking up space?
I remember trying this a year or two ago under MXLinux and the results were a spectacular failure
so obviously I missed something :)
TIA
I don't know cinamon and GUIs, but I guess Mint is either based on
Ubuntu or on debian, so it uses apt.
You should run "apt autoclean" and "apt autoremove" from time to time to remove old packages and necessary dependencies. Maybe it will clean your older kernels at the same time. I'd say it should but I'm not sure.
Le 14-02-2026, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> a |-crit-a:
On 2026-02-13, St|-phane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
Le 13-02-2026, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> a |-crit-a:
So under LinuxMint Cinammon how do I safely delete older kernels I don't use
but are taking up space?
I remember trying this a year or two ago under MXLinux and the results were a spectacular failure
so obviously I missed something :)
TIA
I don't know cinamon and GUIs, but I guess Mint is either based on
Ubuntu or on debian, so it uses apt.
You should run "apt autoclean" and "apt autoremove" from time to time to >>> remove old packages and necessary dependencies. Maybe it will clean your >>> older kernels at the same time. I'd say it should but I'm not sure.
Thank you!
Appreciate the advice.
I'm not an expert of Ubuntu/Debian/Mint, so if I had to manage your
computer, I'd first try to run
```apt update && apt upgrade && apt autoclean && autoremove```
once a day to see what happens to the old kernels. If the old kernels
are removed, so I would just keep doing that. But if that's not enough,
you should find the Mint (maybe Ubuntu/debian) way to remove the old
kernels for two reasons:
- The kernels are stored in a limited partition separated from your main
partition to be accessed by the UEFI. So if you should have well
enough space for a normal usage, if you keep every old kernels
accumulating, there will be a time where you won't have enough space
on your partition.
- The grub will have issues when it has to manage too many kernels. I
don't know the limits, but if you have too many kernels, I saw some
guys having trouble to add or remove some useless kernels. I'm not
speaking about three or four kernels, but about dozens accumulated
with time.
On 2026-02-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:12:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 03:49:40 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2026 20:30:44 GMT, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:39:19 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
In Linux Mint, you can do this is in Update Manager. When you see >>>>>>>> the kernel that is going to be updated, you right-click on the >>>>>>>> square beside it and choose either "Ignore the current update for >>>>>>>> this package." Or "Ignore all future updates for this package." >>>>>>>I seldom use the GUI in any distro. In this case 'sudo apt
upgrade' failed trying to install the 6.17 kernel. I id open
Update Manager but the kernel packages had been downloaded and
didn't show.
apt-mark is supposed to allow you to hold and showhold, etc., but >>>>>>>> so far I can't get "sudo apt-mark showhold" to return anything, >>>>>>>> even though I've specifically held back a kernel to test it in >>>>>>>> Update Manager. (Probably have to hold the file in apt-mark to >>>>>>>> see it in apt-mark showhold.)
showhold shows the four kernel packages. Again it doesn't seem to >>>>>>> work if the packages are already on the machine. I've used the
equivalent on Fedora to block VS Code updates. The update site is >>>>>>> very slow and often times out. Most of the Code updates have been >>>>>>> AI slop I don't want anyway.
Similarly that works for 'sudo dnf update'. However Discover, the >>>>>>> Fedora version of Update Manager still shows an update available >>>>>>> on the taskbar. Minor annoyance since I don't use Discover.
Agree on Broadcom. Whenever I rebuild a laptop that has a
Broadcom WiFi card, I look on eBay for a cheap Intel one. I don't >>>>>>>> even want to mess with Broadcom.
I probably should have when I replaced the HDD with a SSD but It >>>>>>> was working after the initial installation. There's a limit on
what I'll spend on a 15 year old netbook that wasn't a ball of
fire to begin with.
So these kernel issues are all related to Broadcom WiFi cards? My >>>>>>>> Firefox locked up twice on me using this computer (21.3, 5.15The post I saw on Reddit all seemed to be the Broadcom module in >>>>>>> this case. Overall Nvidia seems to be the major PITA when the
kernel)
so I dropped back to an earlier 5.15 kernel. It hasn't locked up >>>>>>>> since,
but Firefox was also updated so it could have been a Firefox
issue.
kernel updates.
Fortunately I am Nvidia free.
I can confirm that NVIDIA seems to have been behind the problem
which led to corruption and a need to repair my Pop_OS!
installation. I am shocked at how simple it was to fix though.
Maybe both then. Nvidia is like a constant issue. When I had a
Nvidia card I just ran the generic Nouveau driver. Worked for what I >>>>> needed.
I would use Nouveau, but it's only okay for cards which don't have a
locked firmware. That means that you need a chip older than the 9xx
series from 2014.
I didn't know that. The computer I had Nouveau on was probably made
around 2010 (if not earlier).
Then Nouveau probably offered excellent or perfect support for the GPU
there and you were better off using it over proprietary drivers. I am
actually looking forward for the inevitable day when NVIDIA stops
locking its GPU firmware so that open-source developers can improve
their drivers the way that they did with AMD's. It is truly pointless
for people to use Windows if they have an AMD GPU for gaming because
the experience is almost always superior in Linux.
I stay away from trying to help people with gaming in Linux because I
have no clue. Some people it works okay in Linux, but I'm pretty that's completely true.
On 2026-02-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:12:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 03:49:40 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:I would use Nouveau, but it's only okay for cards which don't have a
On 11 Feb 2026 20:30:44 GMT, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:39:19 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
In Linux Mint, you can do this is in Update Manager. When you see >>>>>>>> the kernel that is going to be updated, you right-click on the >>>>>>>> square beside it and choose either "Ignore the current update for >>>>>>>> this package." Or "Ignore all future updates for this package." >>>>>>>I seldom use the GUI in any distro. In this case 'sudo apt upgrade' >>>>>>> failed trying to install the 6.17 kernel. I id open Update Manager >>>>>>> but the kernel packages had been downloaded and didn't show.
apt-mark is supposed to allow you to hold and showhold, etc., but >>>>>>>> so far I can't get "sudo apt-mark showhold" to return anything, >>>>>>>> even though I've specifically held back a kernel to test it in >>>>>>>> Update Manager. (Probably have to hold the file in apt-mark to see >>>>>>>> it in apt-mark showhold.)
showhold shows the four kernel packages. Again it doesn't seem to >>>>>>> work if the packages are already on the machine. I've used the
equivalent on Fedora to block VS Code updates. The update site is >>>>>>> very slow and often times out. Most of the Code updates have been AI >>>>>>> slop I don't want anyway.
Similarly that works for 'sudo dnf update'. However Discover, the >>>>>>> Fedora version of Update Manager still shows an update available on >>>>>>> the taskbar. Minor annoyance since I don't use Discover.
Agree on Broadcom. Whenever I rebuild a laptop that has a Broadcom >>>>>>>> WiFi card, I look on eBay for a cheap Intel one. I don't even want >>>>>>>> to mess with Broadcom.
I probably should have when I replaced the HDD with a SSD but It was >>>>>>> working after the initial installation. There's a limit on what I'll >>>>>>> spend on a 15 year old netbook that wasn't a ball of fire to begin >>>>>>> with.
So these kernel issues are all related to Broadcom WiFi cards? My >>>>>>>> Firefox locked up twice on me using this computer (21.3, 5.15The post I saw on Reddit all seemed to be the Broadcom module in >>>>>>> this case. Overall Nvidia seems to be the major PITA when the kernel >>>>>>> updates.
kernel)
so I dropped back to an earlier 5.15 kernel. It hasn't locked up >>>>>>>> since,
but Firefox was also updated so it could have been a Firefox issue. >>>>>>>>
Fortunately I am Nvidia free.
I can confirm that NVIDIA seems to have been behind the problem which >>>>>> led to corruption and a need to repair my Pop_OS! installation. I am >>>>>> shocked at how simple it was to fix though.
Maybe both then. Nvidia is like a constant issue. When I had a Nvidia >>>>> card I just ran the generic Nouveau driver. Worked for what I needed. >>>>
locked firmware. That means that you need a chip older than the 9xx
series from 2014.
I didn't know that. The computer I had Nouveau on was probably made
around 2010 (if not earlier).
Then Nouveau probably offered excellent or perfect support for the GPU
there and you were better off using it over proprietary drivers. I am
actually looking forward for the inevitable day when NVIDIA stops locking >> its GPU firmware so that open-source developers can improve their drivers >> the way that they did with AMD's. It is truly pointless for people to use >> Windows if they have an AMD GPU for gaming because the experience is
almost always superior in Linux.
I stay away from trying to help people with gaming in Linux because I have no clue. Some people it works okay in Linux, but I'm pretty that's completely true.
On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 15:26:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:12:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 03:49:40 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2026 20:30:44 GMT, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:39:19 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
In Linux Mint, you can do this is in Update Manager. When you see >>>>>>>>> the kernel that is going to be updated, you right-click on the >>>>>>>>> square beside it and choose either "Ignore the current update for >>>>>>>>> this package." Or "Ignore all future updates for this package." >>>>>>>>I seldom use the GUI in any distro. In this case 'sudo apt
upgrade' failed trying to install the 6.17 kernel. I id open
Update Manager but the kernel packages had been downloaded and >>>>>>>> didn't show.
apt-mark is supposed to allow you to hold and showhold, etc., but >>>>>>>>> so far I can't get "sudo apt-mark showhold" to return anything, >>>>>>>>> even though I've specifically held back a kernel to test it in >>>>>>>>> Update Manager. (Probably have to hold the file in apt-mark to >>>>>>>>> see it in apt-mark showhold.)
showhold shows the four kernel packages. Again it doesn't seem to >>>>>>>> work if the packages are already on the machine. I've used the >>>>>>>> equivalent on Fedora to block VS Code updates. The update site is >>>>>>>> very slow and often times out. Most of the Code updates have been >>>>>>>> AI slop I don't want anyway.
Similarly that works for 'sudo dnf update'. However Discover, the >>>>>>>> Fedora version of Update Manager still shows an update available >>>>>>>> on the taskbar. Minor annoyance since I don't use Discover.
Agree on Broadcom. Whenever I rebuild a laptop that has a
Broadcom WiFi card, I look on eBay for a cheap Intel one. I don't >>>>>>>>> even want to mess with Broadcom.
I probably should have when I replaced the HDD with a SSD but It >>>>>>>> was working after the initial installation. There's a limit on >>>>>>>> what I'll spend on a 15 year old netbook that wasn't a ball of >>>>>>>> fire to begin with.
So these kernel issues are all related to Broadcom WiFi cards? My >>>>>>>>> Firefox locked up twice on me using this computer (21.3, 5.15 >>>>>>>>> kernel)The post I saw on Reddit all seemed to be the Broadcom module in >>>>>>>> this case. Overall Nvidia seems to be the major PITA when the
so I dropped back to an earlier 5.15 kernel. It hasn't locked up >>>>>>>>> since,
but Firefox was also updated so it could have been a Firefox >>>>>>>>> issue.
kernel updates.
Fortunately I am Nvidia free.
I can confirm that NVIDIA seems to have been behind the problem
which led to corruption and a need to repair my Pop_OS!
installation. I am shocked at how simple it was to fix though.
Maybe both then. Nvidia is like a constant issue. When I had a
Nvidia card I just ran the generic Nouveau driver. Worked for what I >>>>>> needed.
I would use Nouveau, but it's only okay for cards which don't have a >>>>> locked firmware. That means that you need a chip older than the 9xx
series from 2014.
I didn't know that. The computer I had Nouveau on was probably made
around 2010 (if not earlier).
Then Nouveau probably offered excellent or perfect support for the GPU
there and you were better off using it over proprietary drivers. I am
actually looking forward for the inevitable day when NVIDIA stops
locking its GPU firmware so that open-source developers can improve
their drivers the way that they did with AMD's. It is truly pointless
for people to use Windows if they have an AMD GPU for gaming because
the experience is almost always superior in Linux.
I stay away from trying to help people with gaming in Linux because I
have no clue. Some people it works okay in Linux, but I'm pretty that's
completely true.
I can say that everything I've tried in Pop_OS! worked wonderfully. Civilization 7 is a recent game and plays well, as does Fallout London, Yooka-Laylee and The Lego Star Wars Movie. They all have different engines and worked perfectly. However, I've had less success in distributions like Ubuntu and EndeavourOS. For Steam games, the program automatically sets it up to use the best configuration, and it's the same with the Heroes Game Launcher which allows you to play your GOG and Epic Games Store games.
On 2026-02-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 15:26:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:12:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 03:49:40 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2026 20:30:44 GMT, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:39:19 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
In Linux Mint, you can do this is in Update Manager. When you >>>>>>>>>> see the kernel that is going to be updated, you right-click on >>>>>>>>>> the square beside it and choose either "Ignore the current >>>>>>>>>> update for this package." Or "Ignore all future updates for >>>>>>>>>> this package."
I seldom use the GUI in any distro. In this case 'sudo apt
upgrade' failed trying to install the 6.17 kernel. I id open >>>>>>>>> Update Manager but the kernel packages had been downloaded and >>>>>>>>> didn't show.
apt-mark is supposed to allow you to hold and showhold, etc., >>>>>>>>>> but so far I can't get "sudo apt-mark showhold" to return
anything, even though I've specifically held back a kernel to >>>>>>>>>> test it in Update Manager. (Probably have to hold the file in >>>>>>>>>> apt-mark to see it in apt-mark showhold.)
showhold shows the four kernel packages. Again it doesn't seem >>>>>>>>> to work if the packages are already on the machine. I've used >>>>>>>>> the equivalent on Fedora to block VS Code updates. The update >>>>>>>>> site is very slow and often times out. Most of the Code updates >>>>>>>>> have been AI slop I don't want anyway.
Similarly that works for 'sudo dnf update'. However Discover, >>>>>>>>> the Fedora version of Update Manager still shows an update
available on the taskbar. Minor annoyance since I don't use
Discover.
Agree on Broadcom. Whenever I rebuild a laptop that has a
Broadcom WiFi card, I look on eBay for a cheap Intel one. I >>>>>>>>>> don't even want to mess with Broadcom.
I probably should have when I replaced the HDD with a SSD but It >>>>>>>>> was working after the initial installation. There's a limit on >>>>>>>>> what I'll spend on a 15 year old netbook that wasn't a ball of >>>>>>>>> fire to begin with.
So these kernel issues are all related to Broadcom WiFi cards? >>>>>>>>>> My Firefox locked up twice on me using this computer (21.3, >>>>>>>>>> 5.15 kernel)The post I saw on Reddit all seemed to be the Broadcom module in >>>>>>>>> this case. Overall Nvidia seems to be the major PITA when the >>>>>>>>> kernel updates.
so I dropped back to an earlier 5.15 kernel. It hasn't locked >>>>>>>>>> up since,
but Firefox was also updated so it could have been a Firefox >>>>>>>>>> issue.
Fortunately I am Nvidia free.
I can confirm that NVIDIA seems to have been behind the problem >>>>>>>> which led to corruption and a need to repair my Pop_OS!
installation. I am shocked at how simple it was to fix though.
Maybe both then. Nvidia is like a constant issue. When I had a
Nvidia card I just ran the generic Nouveau driver. Worked for what >>>>>>> I needed.
I would use Nouveau, but it's only okay for cards which don't have >>>>>> a locked firmware. That means that you need a chip older than the
9xx series from 2014.
I didn't know that. The computer I had Nouveau on was probably made
around 2010 (if not earlier).
Then Nouveau probably offered excellent or perfect support for the
GPU there and you were better off using it over proprietary drivers.
I am actually looking forward for the inevitable day when NVIDIA
stops locking its GPU firmware so that open-source developers can
improve their drivers the way that they did with AMD's. It is truly
pointless for people to use Windows if they have an AMD GPU for
gaming because the experience is almost always superior in Linux.
I stay away from trying to help people with gaming in Linux because I
have no clue. Some people it works okay in Linux, but I'm pretty
that's completely true.
I can say that everything I've tried in Pop_OS! worked wonderfully.
Civilization 7 is a recent game and plays well, as does Fallout London,
Yooka-Laylee and The Lego Star Wars Movie. They all have different
engines and worked perfectly. However, I've had less success in
distributions like Ubuntu and EndeavourOS. For Steam games, the program
automatically sets it up to use the best configuration, and it's the
same with the Heroes Game Launcher which allows you to play your GOG
and Epic Games Store games.
I left "not" out of my post, as in "not" completely true. If I was a
game player I would probably dual boot into Windows. I don't know for
sure, it's a hypothetical situation in my case. I'm not getting into
gaming at 70 years old.
Dual-booting is the safest option, but even those who do that have said
that Microsoft isn't against destroying your Linux partition in favour of Windows. Rob Braxman has mentioned that it happened to him as have others.
On 2/16/2026 12:46 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
Dual-booting is the safest option, but even those who do that have said
that Microsoft isn't against destroying your Linux partition in favour
of Windows. Rob Braxman has mentioned that it happened to him as have
others.
User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8)
Why not Betterbird?
On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 12:01:05 -0500, DFS wrote:
User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8)
Why not Betterbird?
Because Betterbird and Thunderbird both have bugs where they don't
download articles from newsgroups if the filters I created are too
complex. For example, I have a very effective filter for Larry
Pietraskiewicz which ensures that I never see any of his stupidity. If I enable it, the news server will simply not bother to download any articles
at all; if I disable it, it will download as expected, but I'll have to be exposed to mental retardation worse than that of the official retards in
my school.
On 2/17/2026 8:01 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 12:01:05 -0500, DFS wrote:
User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8)
Why not Betterbird?
Because Betterbird and Thunderbird both have bugs where they don't
download articles from newsgroups if the filters I created are too
complex. For example, I have a very effective filter for Larry Pietraskiewicz which ensures that I never see any of his stupidity.
If I enable it, the news server will simply not bother to download
any articles at all; if I disable it, it will download as expected,
but I'll have to be exposed to mental retardation worse than that
of the official retards in my school.
LOL!I've been a Linux user for many years and I don't think I have ever
As an example of the retardation you're missing, Feeb earlier today
claimed it's "imperative" every Linux user reads the changelog for
each and every update they install.
As if he does that.
What a lying kook.
On 2/17/2026 8:01 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 12:01:05 -0500, DFS wrote:
User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8)
Why not Betterbird?
Because Betterbird and Thunderbird both have bugs where they don't
download articles from newsgroups if the filters I created are too
complex. For example, I have a very effective filter for Larry
Pietraskiewicz which ensures that I never see any of his stupidity. If
I enable it, the news server will simply not bother to download any
articles at all; if I disable it, it will download as expected, but
I'll have to be exposed to mental retardation worse than that of the
official retards in my school.
LOL!
As an example of the retardation you're missing, Feeb earlier today
claimed it's "imperative" every Linux user reads the changelog for each
and every update they install.
As if he does that.
What a lying kook.
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