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https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

Best MacBook for Most People
Apple MacBook Air 13-Inch (2025, M4)
MacOS
$799.00 at Amazon

Best Budget Laptop
Acer Aspire 3 (A315-24P)
Windows 11
$286.95 at Amazon

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

Best Desktop Replacement Laptop
Framework Laptop 16 (2025)
Windows 11
$1,799.00 at Framework

Best Content Creation Laptop
Apple MacBook Pro 14-Inch (2025, M5)
MacOS
$1,449.00 at Amazon

Best Gaming Laptop
MSI Raider 18 HX AI
Windows 11
$3,177.97 at Amazon

Best Budget Gaming Laptop
MSI Katana 15 HX
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Amazon

Best Business Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,748.00 at Amazon

Best Chromebook
Acer Chromebook Plus Spin 714
ChromeOS
$698.00 at Amazon

Best Convertible 2-in-1 Laptop
Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 10 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,349.99 at Lenovo

Best 2-in-1 Detachable Laptop
Asus ProArt PZ13 with keyboard
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Best Buy

Best Workstation Laptop
Dell Pro Max 18 Plus
Windows 11
$4,332.17 at Dell




There's just something about that hobbyware that stops laptop makers
from embracing it.


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On 2026-01-06 10:58, DFS wrote:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

Best MacBook for Most People
Apple MacBook Air 13-Inch (2025, M4)
MacOS
$799.00 at Amazon

Best Budget Laptop
Acer Aspire 3 (A315-24P)
Windows 11
$286.95 at Amazon

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

Best Desktop Replacement Laptop
Framework Laptop 16 (2025)
Windows 11
$1,799.00 at Framework

Best Content Creation Laptop
Apple MacBook Pro 14-Inch (2025, M5)
MacOS
$1,449.00 at Amazon

Best Gaming Laptop
MSI Raider 18 HX AI
Windows 11
$3,177.97 at Amazon

Best Budget Gaming Laptop
MSI Katana 15 HX
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Amazon

Best Business Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,748.00 at Amazon

Best Chromebook
Acer Chromebook Plus Spin 714
ChromeOS
$698.00 at Amazon

Best Convertible 2-in-1 Laptop
Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 10 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,349.99 at Lenovo

Best 2-in-1 Detachable Laptop
Asus ProArt PZ13 with keyboard
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Best Buy

Best Workstation Laptop
Dell Pro Max 18 Plus
Windows 11
$4,332.17 at Dell

There's just something about that hobbyware that stops laptop makers
from embracing it.

"GuhNoo/Linux brought MS to its knees" - some cola lying idiot

I wonder if it has something to do with Microsoft threatening to no
longer supply them with Windows licenses if they sell machines that are bundled with a different operating system!
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DFS wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

AI Overview: The Dell 14 Plus (Pro 14 Plus) is a strong contender
for Linux users, with official Ubuntu certification for models
featuring Intel Core Ultra processors, offering good
out-of-the-box support for Wi-Fi, sound, and even fingerprint
readers with newer kernels.

<snip>

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

It's $1239 with Linux at Lenovo.com! Thanks for the lead!

<snip>

Get a life, bro.
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

Best MacBook for Most People
Apple MacBook Air 13-Inch (2025, M4)
MacOS
$799.00 at Amazon

Best Budget Laptop
Acer Aspire 3 (A315-24P)
Windows 11
$286.95 at Amazon

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

Best Desktop Replacement Laptop
Framework Laptop 16 (2025)
Windows 11
$1,799.00 at Framework

Best Content Creation Laptop
Apple MacBook Pro 14-Inch (2025, M5)
MacOS
$1,449.00 at Amazon

Best Gaming Laptop
MSI Raider 18 HX AI
Windows 11
$3,177.97 at Amazon

Best Budget Gaming Laptop
MSI Katana 15 HX
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Amazon

Best Business Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,748.00 at Amazon

Best Chromebook
Acer Chromebook Plus Spin 714
ChromeOS
$698.00 at Amazon

Best Convertible 2-in-1 Laptop
Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 10 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,349.99 at Lenovo

Best 2-in-1 Detachable Laptop
Asus ProArt PZ13 with keyboard
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Best Buy

Best Workstation Laptop
Dell Pro Max 18 Plus
Windows 11
$4,332.17 at Dell

I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi4 8GB
it has a 4 TB Toshiba harddisc connected to it and internet access via a Huawei 4G modem everywhere here.
The Samsung monitor and Logitech keyboard makes a nice user interface.
Sure, it takes some space in the luggage..
Few hundred dollars altogether.
Linux 100%
raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a
Linux raspberrypi 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
3 years without a single problem:
raspberrypi: ~ # df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 124334328 31611272 87624228 27% /
devtmpfs 3879380 0 3879380 0% /dev
tmpfs 4044244 48228 3996016 2% /dev/shm
tmpfs 1617700 1320 1616380 1% /run
tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock
/dev/mmcblk0p1 258095 50413 207682 20% /boot
tmpfs 808848 24 808824 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda2 3844420600 3219054244 430005692 89% /mnt/sda2


My Samsung laptop is now <12 years old, still working, runs recent Ubuntu.
Very good display, even has a DVD slot :-)
Huawei USB modem plugs into it, internet everywhere.

There's just something about that hobbyware that stops laptop makers
from embracing it.

"GuhNoo/Linux brought MS to its knees" - some cola lying idiot

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At Tue, 6 Jan 2026 11:27:29 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

DFS wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

AI Overview: The Dell 14 Plus (Pro 14 Plus) is a strong contender
for Linux users, with official Ubuntu certification for models
featuring Intel Core Ultra processors, offering good
out-of-the-box support for Wi-Fi, sound, and even fingerprint
readers with newer kernels.

<snip>

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

It's $1239 with Linux at Lenovo.com! Thanks for the lead!

<snip>

Get a life, bro.

He also ignored the ChromeBook.
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On 2026-01-07, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:

DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

Best MacBook for Most People
Apple MacBook Air 13-Inch (2025, M4)
MacOS
$799.00 at Amazon

Best Budget Laptop
Acer Aspire 3 (A315-24P)
Windows 11
$286.95 at Amazon

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

Best Desktop Replacement Laptop
Framework Laptop 16 (2025)
Windows 11
$1,799.00 at Framework

Best Content Creation Laptop
Apple MacBook Pro 14-Inch (2025, M5)
MacOS
$1,449.00 at Amazon

Best Gaming Laptop
MSI Raider 18 HX AI
Windows 11
$3,177.97 at Amazon

Best Budget Gaming Laptop
MSI Katana 15 HX
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Amazon

Best Business Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,748.00 at Amazon

Best Chromebook
Acer Chromebook Plus Spin 714
ChromeOS
$698.00 at Amazon

Best Convertible 2-in-1 Laptop
Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 10 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,349.99 at Lenovo

Best 2-in-1 Detachable Laptop
Asus ProArt PZ13 with keyboard
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Best Buy

Best Workstation Laptop
Dell Pro Max 18 Plus
Windows 11
$4,332.17 at Dell

I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi4 8GB
it has a 4 TB Toshiba harddisc connected to it and internet access via a Huawei 4G modem everywhere here.
The Samsung monitor and Logitech keyboard makes a nice user interface.
Sure, it takes some space in the luggage..
Few hundred dollars altogether.
Linux 100%
raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a
Linux raspberrypi 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
3 years without a single problem:
raspberrypi: ~ # df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 124334328 31611272 87624228 27% /
devtmpfs 3879380 0 3879380 0% /dev
tmpfs 4044244 48228 3996016 2% /dev/shm
tmpfs 1617700 1320 1616380 1% /run
tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock
/dev/mmcblk0p1 258095 50413 207682 20% /boot
tmpfs 808848 24 808824 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda2 3844420600 3219054244 430005692 89% /mnt/sda2

My Samsung laptop is now <12 years old, still working, runs recent Ubuntu. Very good display, even has a DVD slot :-)
Huawei USB modem plugs into it, internet everywhere.

I'm looking at the "features" of these computers in the OP's list. CoPilot
PC and Mac Intelligence turns me away immediately. A Chromebook for $700?
(Are people crazy?)

At any rate I'm typing this on a Lenovo ThinkCentre 910q Mini that my nephew rescued from the E-Waste bin where he works. I installed an already existing 2.5" SSD (500GB, my "main computer") plus an NVME, 256 GB SSD that I bought
on eBay for about $20. I also added another 8 GBs of RAM to bring it up to
16 GBs. This uses a 7th generation CPU (Intel i7-7700T), plus Intel Graphics 600. Works well in both Linux Mint 21.3 and 22.2 (I dual-boot). Eventually I want to move my "main computer" SSD to the NVME SSD because it's faster. (Right now I've got a lot of "bloat" on my main SSD, so I have to get up the gumption to clean it up.) This computer (according to Lenovo's site) originally shipped in June, 2017, so it's 7-1/2 years old. Works great in Linux but wouldn't qualify for Windows 11 (thank goodness).

ronb@3020m:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 1.6G 1.6M 1.6G 1% /run
/dev/sda4 458G 301G 133G 70% /
tmpfs 7.8G 8.0K 7.8G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 7.8G 0 7.8G 0% /run/qemu
/dev/sda2 100M 7.0M 93M 8% /boot/efi
tmpfs 1.6G 4.0M 1.6G 1% /run/user/1000

I have several "hobby" computers (minis/micros) and laptops I need to sale
or hand off to family The one I'm mostly interested in now, is a very
simple, Dell Latitude 3180 (not the Chromebook version).
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On 1/7/2026 1:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Raspberry Pi4 8GB
4 TB Toshiba harddisc
Huawei 4G modem
Samsung monitor
Logitech keyboard

How does it all look sitting in your lap?

(give us a funny pic!)

Linux 100%
3 years without a single problem:

heh! You don't say...


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On 2026-01-07 01:18, Jan Panteltje wrote:

DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

Best Laptop for Most People
Dell 14 Plus (DB14250)
Windows 11
$799.99 at Dell

Best MacBook for Most People
Apple MacBook Air 13-Inch (2025, M4)
MacOS
$799.00 at Amazon

Best Budget Laptop
Acer Aspire 3 (A315-24P)
Windows 11
$286.95 at Amazon

Best Ultraportable Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X9 14 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,569.00 at Lenovo

Best Desktop Replacement Laptop
Framework Laptop 16 (2025)
Windows 11
$1,799.00 at Framework

Best Content Creation Laptop
Apple MacBook Pro 14-Inch (2025, M5)
MacOS
$1,449.00 at Amazon

Best Gaming Laptop
MSI Raider 18 HX AI
Windows 11
$3,177.97 at Amazon

Best Budget Gaming Laptop
MSI Katana 15 HX
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Amazon

Best Business Laptop
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,748.00 at Amazon

Best Chromebook
Acer Chromebook Plus Spin 714
ChromeOS
$698.00 at Amazon

Best Convertible 2-in-1 Laptop
Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 10 Aura Edition
Windows 11
$1,349.99 at Lenovo

Best 2-in-1 Detachable Laptop
Asus ProArt PZ13 with keyboard
Windows 11
$1,299.99 at Best Buy

Best Workstation Laptop
Dell Pro Max 18 Plus
Windows 11
$4,332.17 at Dell

I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi4 8GB
it has a 4 TB Toshiba harddisc connected to it and internet access via a Huawei 4G modem everywhere here.
The Samsung monitor and Logitech keyboard makes a nice user interface.
Sure, it takes some space in the luggage..
Few hundred dollars altogether.
Linux 100%
raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a
Linux raspberrypi 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
3 years without a single problem:
raspberrypi: ~ # df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 124334328 31611272 87624228 27% /
devtmpfs 3879380 0 3879380 0% /dev
tmpfs 4044244 48228 3996016 2% /dev/shm
tmpfs 1617700 1320 1616380 1% /run
tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock
/dev/mmcblk0p1 258095 50413 207682 20% /boot
tmpfs 808848 24 808824 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda2 3844420600 3219054244 430005692 89% /mnt/sda2

My Samsung laptop is now <12 years old, still working, runs recent Ubuntu. Very good display, even has a DVD slot :-)
Huawei USB modem plugs into it, internet everywhere.

This Linux, the only reasons to get a new computer are 1) the hardware
died, 2) you _feel_ that it is too slow. Microsoft and Apple will make
sure that the hardware is slow before you're ready to replace it.
--
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
Pop_OS!
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:

On 1/7/2026 1:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Raspberry Pi4 8GB
4 TB Toshiba harddisc
Huawei 4G modem
Samsung monitor
Logitech keyboard

How does it all look sitting in your lap?

(give us a funny pic!)

https://panteltje.nl/pub/4_keyboards_IXIMG_0913.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/computer_table_IMX_IMG_0679.JPG
Cover up of all the wall-warts:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/Fazley_keyboard_behind_table_IXIMG_1524.JPG

There is more on the table, can you name it?


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On 1/7/2026 1:44 AM, vallor wrote:

At Tue, 6 Jan 2026 11:27:29 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

DFS wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops

He also ignored the ChromeBook.

No.

13 laptops in the Subject
13 laptops in the Body




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On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 11:05:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

Eventually I
want to move my "main computer" SSD to the NVME SSD because it's faster.

https://www.xda-developers.com/sata-ssds-arent-bottleneck/

I have to agree. The Fedora and Linux Mint machines are SATA SSD that I upgraded from HDD. The Ubuntu and Arch are NVME. A head to head comparison isn't possible because of the processor disparities but I don't see a lot
of difference.
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:

On 1/7/2026 1:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Raspberry Pi4 8GB
4 TB Toshiba harddisc
Huawei 4G modem
Samsung monitor
Logitech keyboard

How does it all look sitting in your lap?

(give us a funny pic!)

https://panteltje.nl/pub/4_keyboards_IXIMG_0913.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/computer_table_IMX_IMG_0679.JPG
Cover up of all the wall-warts:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/Fazley_keyboard_behind_table_IXIMG_1524.JPG

There is more on the table, can you name it?


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On 2026-01-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 11:05:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

Eventually I
want to move my "main computer" SSD to the NVME SSD because it's faster.

https://www.xda-developers.com/sata-ssds-arent-bottleneck/

I have to agree. The Fedora and Linux Mint machines are SATA SSD that I upgraded from HDD. The Ubuntu and Arch are NVME. A head to head comparison isn't possible because of the processor disparities but I don't see a lot
of difference.

That's good know. I may not have to worry about it then. Thanks.
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"Not just stupid... Trump stupid."
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On 1/7/2026 10:22 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:

On 1/7/2026 1:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Raspberry Pi4 8GB
4 TB Toshiba harddisc
Huawei 4G modem
Samsung monitor
Logitech keyboard

How does it all look sitting in your lap?

(give us a funny pic!)

https://panteltje.nl/pub/4_keyboards_IXIMG_0913.JPG https://panteltje.nl/pub/computer_table_IMX_IMG_0679.JPG
Cover up of all the wall-warts:
https://panteltje.nl/pub/Fazley_keyboard_behind_table_IXIMG_1524.JPG

Thanks. OMG. Those ARE funny!

How can you even think with all those devices and cables interrupting
your brainwaves?

There is more on the table, can you name it?

Not really. What's up with the low-res pics? Linux phone?






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