Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire- 202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux. Terminology changed in subtle ways.
On 2026-01-06, anonymous <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-
202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux. Terminology changed in subtle ways.
And that's before you even get into WSL (Windows Subsyystem for Linux).
The default is Ubuntu, but on my PC, it's Fedora.
From PowerShell
wsl --install Fedora
.. and reboot. Next time you open the command window terminal,
your Linux system is an option in the pulldown (down arrow to the right
of the + in the top bar of the window).
From PowerShell
wsl --install Fedora
.. and reboot.
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 02:20:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
From PowerShell
wsl --install Fedora
.. and reboot.
Why do you need to reboot Windows just to launch a new VM?
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire- 202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux. Terminology changed in subtle ways.
On 6/01/2026 11:20 am, anonymous wrote:
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-"Windows Vista 11"?? Wasn't Vista about Windows 5 or so??
202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
-a Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux.-a Terminology changed in subtle ways.
On 6/01/2026 11:20 am, anonymous wrote:
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-"Windows Vista 11"?? Wasn't Vista about Windows 5 or so??
202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
-a Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux.-a Terminology changed in subtle ways.
On 06/01/2026 08:03, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/01/2026 11:20 am, anonymous wrote:
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-"Windows Vista 11"?? Wasn't Vista about Windows 5 or so??
202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
-a Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux.-a Terminology changed in subtle ways. >>>
I think he's using the Vista name as an supposed insult to Windows 11. Windows Vista did
seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was very like Windows 7 and as far as I'm
concerned, was fine to use if you just accepted that you got lots of
User Account Control (UAC) prompts.
To this day I always run with UAC prompts set to maximum like in Vista.
On 6/01/2026 11:20 am, anonymous wrote:
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-"Windows Vista 11"?? Wasn't Vista about Windows 5 or so??
202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux. Terminology changed in subtle ways.
Windows Vista did seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was
very like Windows 7 ...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:15:04 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote:
Windows Vista did seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was
very like Windows 7 ...
Gee, I wonder why the users couldnrCOt be satisfied with that? Do you
think it would have helped if Microsoft had explained to them that
rCLVista actually is very like Windows 7, so if you like Windows 7, yourCOre bound to like Vista!rCY?
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 20:18:43 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:15:04 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote:
Windows Vista did seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was
very like Windows 7 ...
Gee, I wonder why the users couldnrCOt be satisfied with that? Do you
think it would have helped if Microsoft had explained to them that
rCLVista actually is very like Windows 7, so if you like Windows 7, yourCOre >> bound to like Vista!rCY?
I consider myself lucky to have went from 7 to 10, bypassing Vista and 8.
On 1/6/26 8:56 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 20:18:43 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:15:04 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote:
Windows Vista did seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was
very like Windows 7 ...
Gee, I wonder why the users couldnrCOt be satisfied with that? Do you
think it would have helped if Microsoft had explained to them that
rCLVista actually is very like Windows 7, so if you like Windows 7,
yourCOre bound to like Vista!rCY?
I consider myself lucky to have went from 7 to 10, bypassing Vista and
8.
8.x was actually the best version in history, if you had Classic Shell
or Start8.
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 21:59:41 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/6/26 8:56 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 20:18:43 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:15:04 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote:
Windows Vista did seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was >>>>> very like Windows 7 ...
Gee, I wonder why the users couldnrCOt be satisfied with that? Do you
think it would have helped if Microsoft had explained to them that
rCLVista actually is very like Windows 7, so if you like Windows 7,
yourCOre bound to like Vista!rCY?
I consider myself lucky to have went from 7 to 10, bypassing Vista and
8.
8.x was actually the best version in history, if you had Classic Shell
or Start8.
https://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
iow, if you made it look like 7.
On 1/5/26 10:00 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 02:20:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
From PowerShell
wsl --install Fedora
.. and reboot.
Why do you need to reboot Windows just to launch a new VM?
Microsoft does have its quirks. Although admittedly with Debian I have
to reboot for what seem like simple updates, a little inconvenient but
its reliability makes it seem like a minor issue, I presume it helps
keep system integrity, something I was looking for after Mint wouldn't upgrade to a newer version because of too many things installed that
made it trapped on the current version, and their attitude seems to be
that you don't need the upgrade since it is still supported for a while.
I admire Mint more abstractly, and I continue donating from time to
time to support Cinnamon and the availability of Linux to newcomers, but
for me personally it's just not solid enough.
On 06/01/2026 08:03, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/01/2026 11:20 am, anonymous wrote:
On 02 Jan 2026, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-"Windows Vista 11"?? Wasn't Vista about Windows 5 or so??
202601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:5be959453815243adb2123f28fa23935@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
- Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
Windows Vista 11 looks like Linux.- Terminology changed in subtle ways. >>>
I think he's using the Vista name as an supposed insult to Windows 11. Windows Vista did seem to have a bad reputation, but actually it was
very like Windows 7 and as far as I'm concerned, was fine to use if you
just accepted that you got lots of User Account Control (UAC) prompts.
To this day I always run with UAC prompts set to maximum like in Vista.
Vista was fine after SP2 was installed. It was then pretty close
to being a Win7 candidate release (same quality level). A few small
touches in Vista, were nice -- such as the Search option that when
the Search did not find your item, there was a "Try Harder" button :-)
Windows is a rolling release, that started from the Vista rewrite.
Overall, the OS you use today, has a lot of legacy "smell" in some
layers, and hidden by creamy Ranch Dressing on top. To protect
the innocent, no doubt.
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> news:10jjl3p$22go$1@dont-email.me Tue, 06 Jan 2026 18:43:04 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
Vista was fine after SP2 was installed. It was then pretty close
to being a Win7 candidate release (same quality level). A few small
touches in Vista, were nice -- such as the Search option that when
the Search did not find your item, there was a "Try Harder" button :-)
Windows is a rolling release, that started from the Vista rewrite.
Please elaborate further on this rewrite? I'm unaware of vista being a rewrite.
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your insecurities still dominate.
I'm unaware of vista being a rewrite.
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your insecurities still dominate.
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:insecurities
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:insecurities
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
trolling can actually get traction.
On Mon, 1/12/2026 4:47 PM, Gremlin wrote:
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> news:10jjl3p$22go$1@dont-email.me Tue, 06
Jan 2026 18:43:04 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
Vista was fine after SP2 was installed. It was then pretty close
to being a Win7 candidate release (same quality level). A few small
touches in Vista, were nice -- such as the Search option that when
the Search did not find your item, there was a "Try Harder" button :-)
Windows is a rolling release, that started from the Vista rewrite.
Please elaborate further on this rewrite? I'm unaware of vista being a
rewrite.
It is. It's a rewrite. it took five years to do.
it was released before the testing was finished.
If it takes you five years and you can't even be bothered
to test it properly, something is very very wrong there.
The kernel is substantially different. I do not
know the terminology for this, but we could start
with the Wiki for Vista to see. There is very little
information about kernel details that I know of,
so we can have a substantive discussion.
I know you will argue "I was a beta tester" etc.
But the thing is, it's a matter of degree rather than substance.
I too, worked in the computer industry, and I worked the cradle
to grave of the hardware and software. We wrote two versions
of our OS. I know how much that cost, and how much calendar
that took.
Vista took way way too long. That's the first starting note,
that practically speaking, there cannot be anything left under
the hood that hasn't been fucked with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista
"May 2001... and continued until November 8, 2006"
"The same post also described Windows Vista as having approximately
50 million lines of code, with about 2,000 developers working on the
product.
OK, five years and 2000 developers. We wrote an OS in two years with 100 developers. You can also write OSes with fewer developers than that,
such as TempleOS with one developer.
With such a substantial difference in development path, how can
there be anything left in there ?
The only way we can have a good argument over this, would be
to see details of the kernel progression.
I have no interest in Vista. I did not buy a copy. I did not
join the Vista news group.
What differences are there, between the WinXP kernel design and the
Vista kernel design ?
Was the Vista kernel designed from scratch with all new code, or was
it merely an evolution of some WinXP code ?
********************** Copilot Answer *******************
**Windows Vista did *not* use a new kernel written from scratch. It was
an evolutionary continuation of the Windows NT lineage, including
Windows XP, but with major architectural changes - especially in
security, driver isolation, memory management, and graphics.** The Vista kernel is still NT-based (NT 6.0), while XP is NT 5.1.
### **No - Vista was not a clean-room rewrite.**
Think of it as **a new generation of the NT kernel**, not a new kernel.
XP services ran with far more privileges and could not restart cleanly
- **Vista was not a rewrite**, but a **major evolution** of the NT
kernel.
If we give the AI one more swing at bat...
The kernel at one time, had ticks set by the hardware timer (8253?).
At some point, it may have had a 1 millisecond tick. And
at another time, it may have switched to tickless. I could easily
be confusing this with Linux, but I believe Microsoft toyed with
some of these ideas too.
Microsoft also claims that it has not changed NTFS and this
is why it refuses to change the NTFS release number. However, they overstepped their bounds, when they (for no reason) added large clusters
(up to 2MB clusters) to NTFS on W10/W11. This means, if a user is sloppy
and is suckered into such a choice, their NTFS partition won't mount
on Windows7. But this does not prevent Microsoft P.R. from
pretending it's perfectly compatible.
... back when I was actively reverse engineering various aspects to
develop cracks and patches for software that wasn't comfortable
running under it but managed to run just fine on XP. Especially
annoying when you have custom hardware that depended on proprietary
software. Think, CNC machines that cost the owner a considerable
sum. Or, in one specific case, a pill dispensing robot for a
pharmacy.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 04:09:55 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:
... back when I was actively reverse engineering various aspects to
develop cracks and patches for software that wasn't comfortable
running under it but managed to run just fine on XP. Especially
annoying when you have custom hardware that depended on proprietary
software. Think, CNC machines that cost the owner a considerable
sum. Or, in one specific case, a pill dispensing robot for a
pharmacy.
Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete, unsupported software?
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 04:37:56 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete,
unsupported software?
In the real world, you don't always have the luxury of running the
latest and greatest.
Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> news:69657ade$7$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Mon, 12 Jan 2026 22:51:10 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your insecurities >> still dominate.
Your AIs interpretation needs a bit of work. I wasn't comparing Mint to MXLinux in terms of solid aspects. How it confused my dislike of them dropping KDE distro as that isn't known to me. I don't personally donate to the Mint team, either. Joel does. I can't classify my comments or Joels to
be part of any distro war, either.
I haven't used this machine in about a week or so, found 123 updates for
it when I checked. It's in the process of applying them as I write this reply.
I won't need to reboot for them to take effect, though.
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Run Windows apps on Linux with 'WinApps'.
https://www.howtogeek.com/run-any-windows-app-linux/
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 21:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:
I'm unaware of vista being a rewrite.
ItrCOs certainly a failed attempt at a rewrite. Microsoft wanted to prove
the value of its Dotnet technology by rewriting large parts of the lower levels of Windows to use it. Too late, they discovered that their
wonderful rCLmanaged runtimerCY led to absolutely horrible performance, so they had to rip it all out and start again (the infamous rCLLonghorn
ResetrCY you may have heard about).
This added maybe two years to the development time. And then they had to
rush the rework after that to avoid the whole project getting even
later. And so Vista turned into the mess we remember on its release.
"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
news:E2h9R.135449$KHq5.81032@fx38.iad Tue, 13 Jan 2026 01:17:21 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:insecurities
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that Debian-based
systems require frequent reboots for updates, attributing Joel's
difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to user incompetence rather
than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that while they personally donate to
Mint/Cinnamon, they find the platform "not solid enough" compared
to MX Linux. The post leans heavily into personal history and
"advocacy" tropes, questioning Joel's technical credibility
regarding alleged Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard
distro-wars dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
news:E2h9R.135449$KHq5.81032@fx38.iad Tue, 13 Jan 2026 01:17:21 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:insecurities
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that Debian-based
systems require frequent reboots for updates, attributing Joel's
difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to user incompetence rather
than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that while they personally donate to
Mint/Cinnamon, they find the platform "not solid enough" compared
to MX Linux. The post leans heavily into personal history and
"advocacy" tropes, questioning Joel's technical credibility
regarding alleged Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard
distro-wars dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because low-quality
trolling can actually get traction.
Just so we're clear, are you denying that you wrote that MS blacklisted
you from installing Windows? If you are, I will be happy to refresh your memory by sharing your posts and some of the followups where I asked you
how you thought they could do this.
I've made no false accusations
towards you and don't appreciate your efforts to emulate snit because
you're most likely embarrassed that I brought your claims up. You may
also want to re-read what the AI thinks. I didn't say I found Mint not
solid enough compared to MXLinux, and, I didn't write about donating to
the Mint team. You have written about donating to them. My issue with
Mint was their no longer providing a KDE based distro to download.
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that Debian-based
systems require frequent reboots for updates, attributing Joel's
difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to user incompetence rather
than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that while they personally donate to
Mint/Cinnamon, they find the platform "not solid enough" compared to
MX Linux. The post leans heavily into personal history and
"advocacy" tropes, questioning Joel's technical credibility
regarding alleged Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard
distro-wars dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that Debian-based
systems require frequent reboots for updates, attributing Joel's
difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to user incompetence rather
than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that while they personally donate to
Mint/Cinnamon, they find the platform "not solid enough" compared
to MX Linux. The post leans heavily into personal history and
"advocacy" tropes, questioning Joel's technical credibility
regarding alleged Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard
distro-wars dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:17:21 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that Debian-based >>> systems require frequent reboots for updates, attributing Joel's
difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to user incompetence rather
than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that while they personally donate to
Mint/Cinnamon, they find the platform "not solid enough" compared
to MX Linux. The post leans heavily into personal history and
"advocacy" tropes, questioning Joel's technical credibility
regarding alleged Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard
distro-wars dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because low-quality
trolling can actually get traction.
Says the low-quality troll.
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your insecurities >> still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
On 12 Jan 2026 22:51:10 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
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Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that Debian-based
systems require frequent reboots for updates, attributing Joel's
difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to user incompetence rather
than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that while they personally donate to
Mint/Cinnamon, they find the platform "not solid enough" compared to
MX Linux. The post leans heavily into personal history and
"advocacy" tropes, questioning Joel's technical credibility
regarding alleged Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard
distro-wars dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
On 1/13/26 9:10 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:17:21 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars dispute
with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because
low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
Says the low-quality troll.
Your own spew speaks for itself, you're a racist and a phobe, I could
really be angry that you appropriate Christianity for your craziness but
I see that in a lot of crazy people, convincing themselves their lives
are that important.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 11:05:23 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/13/26 9:10 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:17:21 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to
user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the
platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars dispute >>>>> with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a
false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because
low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
Says the low-quality troll.
Your own spew speaks for itself, you're a racist and a phobe, I could
really be angry that you appropriate Christianity for your craziness but
I see that in a lot of crazy people, convincing themselves their lives
are that important.
Let's make this clear:
- Christianity does not condone homosexuality, and neither do I. This does not make me a "homophobe" because no one in their right mind would be
scared of sissies like you. It merely makes me a Christian who follows the Word over your fragile emotions.
- As a Christian, I am told that I am to be truthful. I refuse to ignore
the general actions of a race of people simply because it might hurt their
or your feelings. It is truth, but to you it is racism. I don't care
either way.
On 1/13/26 12:43 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 11:05:23 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/13/26 9:10 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:17:21 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 1/12/26 5:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Jan 12, 2026 at 2:47:33rC>PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB3D2AAD2849C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
https://gemini.google.com/app/17bd002596b0638a
-----
Gremlin (MX Linux/KDE) challenges JoelrCOs claim that
Debian-based systems require frequent reboots for updates,
attributing Joel's difficulties with Linux Mint upgrades to >>>>>> user incompetence rather than OS flaws. Gremlin notes that
while they personally donate to Mint/Cinnamon, they find the >>>>>> platform "not solid enough" compared to MX Linux. The post
leans heavily into personal history and "advocacy" tropes,
questioning Joel's technical credibility regarding alleged
Microsoft blacklisting. Summary: A standard distro-wars
dispute with a side of ad hominem.
-----
You at least tried to lean into SOME tech knowledge, but your
insecurities still dominate.
Gremlin is too weak to attack issues where they are, so he creates a >>>>> false narrative with his bogus allegations, known to be proven
wrong.
He's unfortunately all too common on modern Usenet, because
low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
Says the low-quality troll.
Your own spew speaks for itself, you're a racist and a phobe, I could
really be angry that you appropriate Christianity for your craziness
but I see that in a lot of crazy people, convincing themselves their
lives are that important.
Let's make this clear:
- Christianity does not condone homosexuality, and neither do I. This
does not make me a "homophobe" because no one in their right mind would
be scared of sissies like you. It merely makes me a Christian who
follows the Word over your fragile emotions.
You want it made clear, it's clear that you're so painfully wrong that
it's no wonder you simply run away from truth. The little in the Bible doesn't overwhelm the good done by churches embracing their community,
your side has shown time and again your Christian values were always for
sale to the right racist.
- As a Christian, I am told that I am to be truthful. I refuse to
ignore the general actions of a race of people simply because it might
hurt their or your feelings. It is truth, but to you it is racism. I
don't care either way.
That's what Nazis claim, you're no different.
I imagine that the KDE edition of Mint wasn't downloaded enough for it
to be worth continuing to develop. If you're a fan of KDE and want an
Ubuntu base, you're probably going to prefer Kubuntu anyway.
low-quality trolling can actually get traction.
Says the low-quality troll.
Your own spew speaks for itself, you're a racist and a phobe, I could
really be angry that you appropriate Christianity for your craziness
but I see that in a lot of crazy people, convincing themselves their
lives are that important.
Let's make this clear:
- Christianity does not condone homosexuality, and neither do I. This
does not make me a "homophobe" because no one in their right mind would
be scared of sissies like you. It merely makes me a Christian who
follows the Word over your fragile emotions.
You want it made clear, it's clear that you're so painfully wrong that
it's no wonder you simply run away from truth. The little in the Bible
doesn't overwhelm the good done by churches embracing their community,
your side has shown time and again your Christian values were always for
sale to the right racist.
False prophets and false churches. Peter 2:1: "But false prophets also
arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you,
who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master
who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction."
Don't delude yourself, faggot. The path you are in is sending you to Hell.
If you intend not to spend eternity in Hell, repent of your sins and
submit to Christ.
- As a Christian, I am told that I am to be truthful. I refuse to
ignore the general actions of a race of people simply because it might
hurt their or your feelings. It is truth, but to you it is racism. I
don't care either way.
That's what Nazis claim, you're no different.
By all means, find me quotes showing that they are truthful because they believe in Scripture.
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