• Re: Why is the iPhone so inefficient compared to Android?

    From Marion@marion@facts.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad on Fri Jul 4 18:29:35 2025
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    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:47 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    That is an assertion unsupported by any facts.


    You remind me of this guy that I debate sports with. I back up my points
    with actual cites and examples, but all he does is say “nope” without actually debating the topic or providing counter cites.

    Hi badgolferman,

    As you know, I study the people who post to this newsgroup, where it's so unnatural how desperate the uneducated Apple trolls are to deny facts.

    Who on earth would deny that official legal EU/UK regulations that were
    years in the making with input from all the OEMS and which were extremely
    well publicized in the news (I knew about them since about 2021 or so) and where the official testing agencies were included all along... happened.

    Who would deny that which nobody sensible who knew anything would deny?

    Only these uneducated Apple trolls do that on this newsgroup, right?
    Why?

    Specifically, why are Apple trolls claiming that this legal EPREL database suddenly "just happened" to Apple - as if Apple didn't even know about it?

    What kind of person requires us to prove that fundamental fact to them?
    (Just like as with your sports friend.)

    Do they seriously think that by casting aspersions on the entire formal
    legal process (which was years in the making), that they can then deny the basic fact that all Android OEMs managed to earn at least one A in
    efficiency, while none of the Apple iPhones could achieve that efficiency?

    What kind of person does that?
    Why can't they simply accept that Apple was part of the process all along?
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  • From Charlie@charlie@nospam.com to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Fri Jul 4 13:44:17 2025
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    On 7/3/2025 1:36 PM, Alan wrote:

    And if one examines Apple devices' actual numbers (not the letter
    rating, but the endurance times), one can easily see that Apple has
    rounded down the numbers.

    What are you trying to say?
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat Jul 5 10:04:31 2025
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    On 2025-07-04 10:53:29 +0000, -hh said:
    On 7/3/25 13:34, Marion wrote:
    {snip!}
    Look. Your entire argument is that of an emotional religious zealot, hh.
    You are trying to say twenty dollar Androids fared worse than the iPhone.

    Where in "almost every Android" is there any price constraint?

    You're goalpost dragging. Again.


    -hh

    More like knuckle-dragging, as usual for that "Arlen" / "Marion" moron.

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  • From Marion@marion@facts.com to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat Jul 5 01:38:37 2025
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    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 10:04:31 +1200, Your Name wrote :


    More like knuckle-dragging,

    All these insults just because I informed you of a fact about Apple... :)
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat Jul 5 07:23:00 2025
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    On 7/4/25 18:04, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-07-04 10:53:29 +0000, -hh said:
    On 7/3/25 13:34, Marion wrote:
    {snip!}
    Look. Your entire argument is that of an emotional religious zealot, hh. >>> You are trying to say twenty dollar Androids fared worse than the
    iPhone.

    Where in "almost every Android" is there any price constraint?

    You're goalpost dragging.Ā  Again.


    -hh

    More like knuckle-dragging, as usual for that "Arlen" / "Marion" moron.


    As well as many other shortcomings.

    Case in point:

    ...and if I'm ever not logical and sensible in everything I say,
    then you can shoot me.


    But posts anonymously, without their name, address, photograph, etc to
    make this so-called "offer" in any sense actually actionable.


    -hh
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad on Sat Jul 5 11:33:31 2025
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    Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 22:02:10 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
    Apple MARKETING claims an amorphous "efficiency" in their ads which turns >>> out to be a lie but we all know that. The question in this thread is why. >>>
    Why are iPhones so inefficient when compared to most major Android brands? >>>

    I haven't seen the ad. What do they mean by 'efficiency'? Uses less power, >> or faster and easier to use? Something else?

    Hi badgolferman,

    I go away for a week and why am I not surprised that there are literally hundreds of posts on this tripe. You literally have nothing better to do.
    How dull.

    In this case, we have a years-in-the-making DEFINITION of EFFICIENCY
    (which Apple has legally agreed to, years ago, published recently).

    He asked you for a reference to the ad not a repetition of your never substantiated claims. Even shouting doesn't make them any less false. The opposite, in fact.


    Which brings me to the question where we must find the correct answer to:
    *Why is the iPhone so inefficient compared to Android?*

    It isn't. I have a full analysis of the EU and other benchmarks in the
    making.

    There are some startling and clearly wrong information being shared by some manufacturers.

    Stay tuned!



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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad on Mon Jul 7 14:51:42 2025
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    On 2025-06-29 16:31, Marion wrote:
    Apple MARKETING claims an amorphous "efficiency" in their ads which turns
    out to be a lie but we all know that. The question in this thread is why.

    Why are iPhones so inefficient when compared to most major Android brands?

    They aren't.

    Which is why you no longer want to discuss efficiency.

    :-)
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  • From Nashton@nbjointacc@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad on Mon Oct 13 04:20:10 2025
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    On 2025-07-01 3:15 p.m., -hh wrote:
    On 7/1/25 12:06, Marion wrote:
    ...
    Yet, only Apple phones dismally failed in efficiency.

    Where your claimed 'failure' was a grade of a "B" instead of an "A".

    YMMV, but I recall "B" as always having been a passing grade.

    That is not under debate.

    Where "That" is that they got a passing grade of a "B", and that you're still whining and butthurt about it as a justification to troll.

    In the meantime, let's not forget how there's been many companies who
    have deliberately gamed various benchmark tests, which illustrates that
    such tests can have limited relevance & value to end consumers.-a Those
    who wish to disagree can start with showing how there was no harm ever caused to consumers by manufacturers who rigged GPU tests on PC boards.


    -hh
    Ever managed to master the focus function on your camera, dummy?
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad on Tue Oct 14 08:14:12 2025
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    Am 04.07.25 um 20:29 schrieb Marion:
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:47 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    That is an assertion unsupported by any facts.


    You remind me of this guy that I debate sports with. I back up my points
    with actual cites and examples, but all he does is say -|nope-i without
    actually debating the topic or providing counter cites.

    Hi badgolferman,

    As you know, I study the people who post to this newsgroup, where it's so unnatural how desperate the uneducated Apple trolls are to deny facts.

    You really need professional help.
    I studied many ngs of the Usenet: You are by far the most antisocial "contributor" for years.

    What stuns me most is the fact that there are still a considerable
    number of Trolls that reply to your brain dead nonsense.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad on Wed Oct 15 22:32:11 2025
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    Nashton <nbjointacc@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-07-01 3:15 p.m., -hh wrote:
    On 7/1/25 12:06, Marion wrote:
    ...
    Yet, only Apple phones dismally failed in efficiency.

    Where your claimed 'failure' was a grade of a "B" instead of an "A".

    YMMV, but I recall "B" as always having been a passing grade.

    That is not under debate.

    Where "That" is that they got a passing grade of a "B", and that you're
    still whining and butthurt about it as a justification to troll.

    In the meantime, let's not forget how there's been many companies who
    have deliberately gamed various benchmark tests, which illustrates that
    such tests can have limited relevance & value to end consumers.-a Those
    who wish to disagree can start with showing how there was no harm ever
    caused to consumers by manufacturers who rigged GPU tests on PC boards.


    -hh
    Ever managed to master the focus function on your camera, dummy?


    <https://huntzinger.com/photo/2025/63_Futura.JPG>

    And to think that I was going to pass on reminding you that you still
    havenrCOt delivered on your promise to post photos of your then-new Audi Q7 that you had been trying to brag about before you skanked off.

    -hh



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