I thought all Android phones were largely similar, but I recently had
the loan of a Moto G. I found it much harder to use than any previous >android phone I've had, a mere 3 iirc, 2 Xiaomi and one Samsung.
With those three phones there were 3 symbols at the bottom, a square, a >circle, and a triangle pointing left. They were not in the same order >bertween brands, but the functions were the same.
ON the Moto G, they were not there. It's only been two weeks but I'm >forgetting a bit. There was a way to get to the array of icons, but
doing so was not like pressing the circle on the non-Moto phones. When
you press the circle, it takes you to the same page from which you
started the app you are in, at least if you are still in the app you
most recently started from the array (and not from the squrae) and this >reminds you of what app you have been in.
Also, when using whatsapp, there seemed no way to go to another app
without totally losing your place in whatsapp. I was trying to read a >longggg chat and there was no square to tap to go to the array of
recently used apps, and no square to tap to return to Whatsapp in the
same state as when you left it. I learned I had to do all my work
without leaving whatsapp, or I had to find which chat and my position in
that chat each time I left and returned.
Why would Motorola make things so difficult? Why would people buy
motorola unless they don't know how much more useful Android can be on
other phones. Both the Moto G and my current Xiami use Andrlid 11.
I'm sure there are also other times when the absence of the square,
circle and triangle will make things harder. What gives?
I thought all Android phones were largely similar, but I recently had
the loan of a Moto G. I found it much harder to use than any previous android phone I've had, a mere 3 iirc, 2 Xiaomi and one Samsung.
With those three phones there were 3 symbols at the bottom, a square, a circle, and a triangle pointing left. They were not in the same order bertween brands, but the functions were the same.
ON the Moto G, they were not there. It's only been two weeks but I'm forgetting a bit. There was a way to get to the array of icons, but
doing so was not like pressing the circle on the non-Moto phones. When
you press the circle, it takes you to the same page from which you
started the app you are in, at least if you are still in the app you
most recently started from the array (and not from the squrae) and this reminds you of what app you have been in.
Also, when using whatsapp, there seemed no way to go to another app
without totally losing your place in whatsapp. I was trying to read a longggg chat and there was no square to tap to go to the array of
recently used apps, and no square to tap to return to Whatsapp in the
same state as when you left it. I learned I had to do all my work
without leaving whatsapp, or I had to find which chat and my position in
that chat each time I left and returned.
Why would Motorola make things so difficult? Why would people buy
motorola unless they don't know how much more useful Android can be on
other phones. Both the Moto G and my current Xiami use Andrlid 11.
I'm sure there are also other times when the absence of the square,
circle and triangle will make things harder. What gives?
there were 3 symbols at the bottom, a square, a
circle, and a triangle pointing left.
They were not in the same order
bertween brands, but the functions were the same.
ON the Moto G, they were not there.
Why would Motorola make things so difficult? Why would people buy
motorola unless they don't know how much more useful Android can be on >>other phones. Both the Moto G and my current Xiami use Andrlid 11.
Ah, good old Motorola. I worked there as a tech for several years in the
60s. But it was a government electronics division back then, no cell
phones...
AJL wrote:
Why would Motorola make things so difficult? Why would people buy >>>motorola unless they don't know how much more useful Android can be on >>>other phones. Both the Moto G and my current Xiami use Andrlid 11.
Ah, good old Motorola. I worked there as a tech for several years in the
60s. But it was a government electronics division back then, no cell
phones...
I helped the PowerPC team much later, as we've discussed, but as for the >MotoG lineup, I had only one, years ago, which I got for $100 from Google.
I hated it.
It was that deal where you signed up for Google Fi (or something like
that), and if you canceled, you got to keep the phone, and I *told* them up >front what my plan was and they said it's fine to cancel & keep it.
I don't remember why I hated it though, other than the battery was sealed >(which, in those days, wasn't a thing yet since mainly only Apple did it).
My next phone was a handful of LG Stylo 3+ phones for $139 at Costco.
Those, the battery came out easily (and was a wonderful thing to do).
Now almost every Android OEM followed Apple's sleazy sealed-battery tactics >because they know that's what will kill every phone eventually.
But I did like working with the PowerPC team in Phoenix (or Tempe?).
I thought all Android phones were largely similar, but I recently had
the loan of a Moto G. I found it much harder to use than any previous android phone I've had, a mere 3 iirc, 2 Xiaomi and one Samsung.
I'm sure there are also other times when the absence of the square,
circle and triangle will make things harder. What gives?
micky wrote:
I thought all Android phones were largely similar, but I recently had
the loan of a Moto G. I found it much harder to use than any previous android phone I've had, a mere 3 iirc, 2 Xiaomi and one Samsung.
With those three phones there were 3 symbols at the bottom, a square, a circle, and a triangle pointing left. They were not in the same order bertween brands, but the functions were the same.
ON the Moto G, they were not there. It's only been two weeks but I'm forgetting a bit. There was a way to get to the array of icons, but
doing so was not like pressing the circle on the non-Moto phones. When
you press the circle, it takes you to the same page from which you
started the app you are in, at least if you are still in the app you
most recently started from the array (and not from the squrae) and this reminds you of what app you have been in.
Also, when using whatsapp, there seemed no way to go to another app
without totally losing your place in whatsapp. I was trying to read a longggg chat and there was no square to tap to go to the array of
recently used apps, and no square to tap to return to Whatsapp in the
same state as when you left it. I learned I had to do all my work
without leaving whatsapp, or I had to find which chat and my position in
that chat each time I left and returned.
Why would Motorola make things so difficult? Why would people buy
motorola unless they don't know how much more useful Android can be on
other phones. Both the Moto G and my current Xiami use Andrlid 11.
I'm sure there are also other times when the absence of the square,
circle and triangle will make things harder. What gives?
Simple, because it is a MotoG
On 2026-02-24 06:03, micky wrote:
I thought all Android phones were largely similar, but I recently had
the loan of a Moto G. I found it much harder to use than any previous
android phone I've had, a mere 3 iirc, 2 Xiaomi and one Samsung.
With those three phones there were 3 symbols at the bottom, a square, a
circle, and a triangle pointing left. They were not in the same order
bertween brands, but the functions were the same.
ON the Moto G, they were not there. It's only been two weeks but I'm
forgetting a bit. There was a way to get to the array of icons, but
doing so was not like pressing the circle on the non-Moto phones. When
you press the circle, it takes you to the same page from which you
started the app you are in, at least if you are still in the app you
most recently started from the array (and not from the squrae) and this
reminds you of what app you have been in.
Also, when using whatsapp, there seemed no way to go to another app
without totally losing your place in whatsapp. I was trying to read a
longggg chat and there was no square to tap to go to the array of
recently used apps, and no square to tap to return to Whatsapp in the
same state as when you left it. I learned I had to do all my work
without leaving whatsapp, or I had to find which chat and my position in
that chat each time I left and returned.
Why would Motorola make things so difficult? Why would people buy
motorola unless they don't know how much more useful Android can be on
other phones. Both the Moto G and my current Xiami use Andrlid 11.
I'm sure there are also other times when the absence of the square,
circle and triangle will make things harder. What gives?
I have three motorolas, my normal one is the G52. As your phone is a
loan, it is quite possible that the previous owner intentionally removed
the icons. It is an option you have in the initial tour when the phone
is first powered up.
The icons are replaced by gestures, and you have to
know them. The gestures can be a bit different between models.
For example, initially the gestures were applied to the finger print
sensor in the front.
In my phone, to switch from one app to another without closing it, is
swipe from center bottom vertically to about 1/3 of the screen.
The triangle to go back is swipe from right or left edge to the centre.
To get the full list of apps is swipe up from one centimetre above the >bottom edge.
micky wrote:
there were 3 symbols at the bottom, a square, a
circle, and a triangle pointing left.
The "Navigation Bar" with Home, Back and Recent buttons
They were not in the same order
bertween brands, but the functions were the same.
ON the Moto G, they were not there.
Maybe the Moto G defaults to "Gesture Navigation" where you swipe >up/left/right from off the edge of the screen?
I prefer it that way, it saves space, search for those phrases in
settings, you can change it back if you like, but I'd say learning
gestures is a good move.
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