• Are We Sixel Yet?

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Wed Sep 17 09:29:43 2025
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    Quite impressed to discover that a sixel graphics renaissance seems to
    be in progress <https://www.arewesixelyet.com/>.

    This is an old idea invented by DEC from the 1980s, for a terminal
    graphics mode that allowed for each line of characters to become 6
    rows of pixels (rCLsix pixelrCY = rCLsixelrCY). A bit slow to send the resulting volume of data over a serial line, but modern network
    connections cope with it just fine. It was eclipsed by the advent of
    proper graphics terminals with more advanced display hardware,
    accessed via network connections, X11, OpenGL and all the rest of it.
    But now some folks are dusting off the old idea, and having some fun
    with it.

    Certainly a bit nicer than blocky character graphics.

    What use is it? Think of remote access via SSH, where you have a need
    for some basic ability to view graphics in your terminal emulator. The
    above site gives a roll call of terminal emulators, and their status
    of support (or not) for sixel graphics. Is yours in the list?
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.misc on Wed Sep 17 13:47:13 2025
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    Sixel, ... what else?!?

    <https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=53880#p53880>

    Those snapshots would need to be updated. Chawan has improved a lot
    since then.
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  • From Ben Collver@bencollver@tilde.pink to comp.misc on Wed Sep 17 13:50:13 2025
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    On 2025-09-17, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Quite impressed to discover that a sixel graphics renaissance seems to
    be in progress <https://www.arewesixelyet.com/>.

    That web site gives a list of terminal emulators that support sixel
    graphics. I'd be interested in seeing a list of software that
    supports sixel graphics. Off the top of my head, i've used:

    * gnuplot
    https://sourceforge.net/p/gnuplot/patches/742/
    * chafa
    https://hpjansson.org/chafa/

    I have also used gnuplot with xterm's Tektronix 4014 emulation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tektronix_4010
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.misc on Wed Sep 17 15:38:39 2025
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    Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:

    I'd be interested in seeing a list of software that supports sixel
    graphics. Off the top of my head, i've used:

    I use 'img2sixel [-P]' a lot. Libsixel's README has pointers to other
    software too.

    <https://github.com/saitoha/libsixel>

    Eat adds even Sixels to GUI-Emacs' superpowers. Not as fast as
    Img2Sixel, but always better than no Sixels at all.

    Long ago I possibly stumbled over my own feet while trying to get the Sixel-Xserver built, that might be worth a retry, even if just for the
    giggles.

    If you plan an awesome-sixel-programs list, please consider Notabug,
    Codeberg, Tildegit or a similar friendly neighbour as its home.
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    mattered, was a real sofa.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Wed Sep 17 22:24:01 2025
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    On Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:50:13 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver wrote:

    That web site gives a list of terminal emulators that support sixel
    graphics. I'd be interested in seeing a list of software that supports
    sixel graphics.

    ThatrCOs less important, though, given the likely usage scenarios. This package <https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libsixel-bin> contains the img2sixel utility, which will convert various graphics formats to sixel.
    That is enough to display the result in a sixel-supporting terminal
    window.

    With that, there isnrCOt much need for the usual graphics software to output sixel format directly.
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  • From Eli the Bearded@*@eli.users.panix.com to comp.misc on Wed Sep 17 23:45:51 2025
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    In comp.misc, Lawrence DOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Quite impressed to discover that a sixel graphics renaissance seems to
    be in progress <https://www.arewesixelyet.com/>.
    ...
    Certainly a bit nicer than blocky character graphics.

    I've seen the Unicode Braille codepoints used, too. Those support 2
    dot wide and 8 dot Braille symbols, which render with white space
    surrounding.

    What use is it? Think of remote access via SSH, where you have a need
    for some basic ability to view graphics in your terminal emulator. The
    above site gives a roll call of terminal emulators, and their status
    of support (or not) for sixel graphics. Is yours in the list?

    My xterm is new enough, but I don't seem to get output. The HI example
    on the Wikipedia page just outputs a blank line and img2sixel gives no
    visible output.

    But a related project: fifteenel. It is a font using a Unicode private
    block for a fifteen pixel tall by one pixel wide drawing scheme.

    https://drj11.itch.io/fifteenel-font

    Elijah
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.misc on Thu Sep 18 08:28:08 2025
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    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    My xterm is new enough, but I don't seem to get output. The HI example
    on the Wikipedia page just outputs a blank line and img2sixel gives no visible output.

    You added at least

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ XTerm*decTerminalID: vt340
    XTerm*numColorRegisters: 256 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    to '~/.Xresources' and 'xrdb ~/.Xresources'-ed those definitions?
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.misc on Thu Sep 18 08:38:43 2025
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    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    I've seen the Unicode Braille codepoints used, too. Those support 2
    dot wide and 8 dot Braille symbols, which render with white space surrounding.

    Nice to have: <https://codeberg.org/grunfink/pbm2braille>

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    But Braille chars and their char and line spacing may look very
    different depending on the font you use. In my XTerms they are as wide
    as other chars, in my GUI-Emacs they are narrower and in my main browser
    they are wider than the monospace font's spacing. For its original use
    case that won't hurt, but as pseudographicks that may be painful. Maybe instead of adding every shit and their pets to Unicode raosomeonerao should solve that problem.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.misc on Thu Sep 18 18:10:03 2025
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    Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote at 13:50 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 2025-09-17, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Quite impressed to discover that a sixel graphics renaissance seems to
    be in progress <https://www.arewesixelyet.com/>.

    That web site gives a list of terminal emulators that support sixel
    graphics. I'd be interested in seeing a list of software that
    supports sixel graphics. Off the top of my head, i've used:

    * gnuplot
    https://sourceforge.net/p/gnuplot/patches/742/
    * chafa
    https://hpjansson.org/chafa/

    I have also used gnuplot with xterm's Tektronix 4014 emulation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tektronix_4010


    chafa is a incredible program that I use a lot! I like how it can
    automatically detect and use the highest graphics mode for the
    program.
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  • From Eli the Bearded@*@eli.users.panix.com to comp.misc on Fri Sep 19 04:26:32 2025
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    In comp.misc, yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    I've seen the Unicode Braille codepoints used, too. Those support 2
    dot wide and 8 dot Braille symbols, which render with white space surrounding.
    Nice to have: <https://codeberg.org/grunfink/pbm2braille>

    https://github.com/Eli-the-Bearded/DotDotDot/tree/pbmtodots/pbmtodots

    (I just forked someone else's work and added the pbm tool to it.)

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    Nice, but it was missing something.

    But Braille chars and their char and line spacing may look very
    different depending on the font you use. In my XTerms they are as wide
    as other chars, in my GUI-Emacs they are narrower and in my main browser
    they are wider than the monospace font's spacing. For its original use
    case that won't hurt, but as pseudographicks that may be painful. Maybe instead of adding every shit and their pets to Unicode raosomeonerao should solve that problem.

    The Legacy Computing block art looks promising:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_for_Legacy_Computing

    Elijah
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  • From Eli the Bearded@*@eli.users.panix.com to comp.misc on Fri Sep 19 04:30:03 2025
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    In comp.misc, yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    My xterm is new enough, but I don't seem to get output. The HI example
    on the Wikipedia page just outputs a blank line and img2sixel gives no
    visible output.
    You added at least
    XTerm*decTerminalID: vt340

    Hmmm. Nope. Didn't try that.

    With that the HI example from Wikipedia works but img2sixel still gives
    no visible output. (I tried adding -o outfile and I can see sixel code
    there in vi.)

    Elijah
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Fri Sep 19 08:54:39 2025
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    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 04:30:03 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

    In comp.misc, yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    XTerm*decTerminalID: vt340

    With that the HI example from Wikipedia works but img2sixel still gives
    no visible output. (I tried adding -o outfile and I can see sixel code
    there in vi.)

    Something about 7-bit versus 8-bit encoding, at a wild guess?
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to comp.misc on Fri Sep 19 22:43:31 2025
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    Lots of stuff on VMS supported sixel. We used a matrix manipulation program called MatrixX which would generate plot files which you could RENDER into different formats including postscript to print and sixel to display on your VT240. I think IslandWrite/Draw/Paint also supported sixel display terminals. --scott
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Sep 20 03:36:55 2025
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    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 22:43:31 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Lots of stuff on VMS supported sixel. We used a matrix manipulation
    program called MatrixX which would generate plot files which you
    could RENDER into different formats including postscript to print
    and sixel to display on your VT240.

    Why did you bother with sixel graphics on a VT240? That supported
    ReGIS, which was far superior.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to comp.misc on Sun Sep 21 20:29:55 2025
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    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 22:43:31 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Lots of stuff on VMS supported sixel. We used a matrix manipulation
    program called MatrixX which would generate plot files which you
    could RENDER into different formats including postscript to print
    and sixel to display on your VT240.

    Why did you bother with sixel graphics on a VT240? That supported
    ReGIS, which was far superior.

    Because that's what the software we had used!
    --scott
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