• OT: What do you need to do nowadays to get mail delivered to your mail server?

    From J.O. Aho@user@example.net to comp.mail.sendmail on Tue Nov 18 10:07:51 2025
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    I'm sorry that this is off subject and do not have anything thing to do
    with sendmail specifically, but more of a general question as I have
    noticed that I do not get mail from all domains, looking at the firewall
    logs, I can say the remote side do not even try to connect to the server.

    I have done all I know of, SPF, DMARC, DKIM, but is there something new
    that is required nowadays?
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.mail.sendmail on Tue Nov 18 11:04:55 2025
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    On 18.11.2025 10:07 Uhr J.O. Aho wrote:

    I'm sorry that this is off subject and do not have anything thing to
    do with sendmail specifically, but more of a general question as I
    have noticed that I do not get mail from all domains, looking at the
    firewall logs, I can say the remote side do not even try to connect
    to the server.

    Does it affect only special sites?
    Can you reach the sending server using ping etc.?

    Make sure networking works. If the AS includes a RIPE Atlas probe, try
    this to check if that can reach your mailserver.

    I have done all I know of, SPF, DMARC, DKIM, but is there something
    new that is required nowadays?

    For a sender, your DNS SPF/DMARC/DKIM records are irrelevant.
    They try to send you the mail and unless you reject it, they are done.
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  • From J.O. Aho@user@example.net to comp.mail.sendmail on Tue Nov 18 14:46:48 2025
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    On 18/11/2025 11.04, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 18.11.2025 10:07 Uhr J.O. Aho wrote:

    I'm sorry that this is off subject and do not have anything thing to
    do with sendmail specifically, but more of a general question as I
    have noticed that I do not get mail from all domains, looking at the
    firewall logs, I can say the remote side do not even try to connect
    to the server.

    Does it affect only special sites?

    It seems to affect some domains, not all, for example general gmail
    works fine, while I have encountered issues with hosted domain, but the
    issue may not be on the google part as they also have a bunch of
    ip-numbers from where they can send too.

    Can you reach the sending server using ping etc.?

    I have tried some of the ip's for a domain and there is a SMTP
    responding, so don't seem to be connectivity issue. None of the
    ip-ranges been blocked in my firewall (at the moment it's quite empty as
    I originally suspected it to be the issue).


    Make sure networking works. If the AS includes a RIPE Atlas probe, try
    this to check if that can reach your mailserver.

    I did create an account and run a traceroute test, 98 failed and 2
    wasn't run, all seems to end at the same server on Austria, the route
    back from my mail server do take another path. I didn't try ping as by
    default the setup do not respond on ping.

    for me it looked like many of the sources that RIPE uses seems to be in
    the same ip-range and same gateway, of course I haven't checked every instance, but I was trying to check a handful from different countries.


    I have done all I know of, SPF, DMARC, DKIM, but is there something
    new that is required nowadays?

    For a sender, your DNS SPF/DMARC/DKIM records are irrelevant.
    They try to send you the mail and unless you reject it, they are done.

    Yeah, you are right about that, was just thinking is there suddenly had appeared a reverse mechanism, just been a bit "disconnected" lately.
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.mail.sendmail on Tue Nov 18 16:22:39 2025
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    On 18.11.2025 14:46 Uhr J.O. Aho wrote:

    I did create an account and run a traceroute test, 98 failed and 2
    wasn't run, all seems to end at the same server on Austria, the route
    back from my mail server do take another path. I didn't try ping as
    by default the setup do not respond on ping.

    You can use bgp.he.net super traceroute.

    Please let us know which probes you used and what your IP is.

    Be aware that the probes send UDP packets to a high port, so a firewall
    can block them while TCP port 25 is not being blocked.

    for me it looked like many of the sources that RIPE uses seems to be
    in the same ip-range and same gateway, of course I haven't checked
    every instance, but I was trying to check a handful from different
    countries.

    Use HE supertraceroute, you can select countries and ISPs here.
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    Marco

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  • From J.O. Aho@user@example.net to comp.mail.sendmail on Wed Dec 17 11:29:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.sendmail

    On 18/11/2025 16.22, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 18.11.2025 14:46 Uhr J.O. Aho wrote:

    I did create an account and run a traceroute test, 98 failed and 2
    wasn't run, all seems to end at the same server on Austria, the route
    back from my mail server do take another path. I didn't try ping as
    by default the setup do not respond on ping.

    You can use bgp.he.net super traceroute.

    Please let us know which probes you used and what your IP is.

    Be aware that the probes send UDP packets to a high port, so a firewall
    can block them while TCP port 25 is not being blocked.

    for me it looked like many of the sources that RIPE uses seems to be
    in the same ip-range and same gateway, of course I haven't checked
    every instance, but I was trying to check a handful from different
    countries.

    Use HE supertraceroute, you can select countries and ISPs here.

    Thanks for the help, turns out stopping the firewall didn't clean out
    banned ip's and ranges and the main issue seems to have been that
    sendgrid.net had been banned due of specious looking connections from an
    ip and a whole large range had then been banned.
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.mail.sendmail on Wed Dec 17 12:34:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.sendmail

    On 17.12.2025 11:29 Uhr J.O. Aho wrote:

    sendgrid.net had been banned due of specious looking connections from
    an ip and a whole large range had then been banned.

    They have a huge amount of abusers and their abuse desk is simply
    ignorant. BTDT.

    Have a look at http://www.uceprotect.net/de/rblcheck.php?asn=11377

    Many of their customers send mail to the spamtraps - and they don't
    seem to stop them.
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    Marco

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