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  • Re: alpine: date format

    From Chime Hart@chime@hubert-humphrey.com to comp.mail.pine on Fri Jul 4 11:09:55 2025
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    Thank you Eduardo, that is wonderful. Eventually I mostly want that style while
    examining these Clari groups. Even better would be a hotkey to switch on-and-off the date. Thanks again
    Chime

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  • From Chime Hart@chime@hubert-humphrey.com to comp.mail.pine on Sat Jul 19 16:22:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    OK, a `happy ending. I had a script called "clari" to just show local-and-news group related clari groups, like this
    #!/bin/sh

    # Run alpine with just the Clarinet groups

    NEWSRC=${HOME}/.newsrc.clari-news.us.easynews.com;export NEWSRC
    alpine -IL -newsrc-path=${NEWSRC} -p ${HOME}/.pinerc-clari
    In useing a separate .pinerc I get the longer date format, but also I can have
    both that-and-my regular index opened at the same time without either becoming read only. My Linux expert-and-myself found the whole rules concept confusing. Thanks for all your suggestions.
    Chime

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  • From Chime Hart@chime@hubert-humphrey.com to comp.mail.pine on Sun Jul 20 01:07:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    Well, unfortunately my main malbox did become read only. If there were a way of
    reading mail in 1 console-and-examining a news-group in another without read only, that would be wonderful. Thanks in advance
    Chime

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  • From William Unruh@unruh@invalid.ca to comp.mail.pine on Sun Jul 20 16:35:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    On 2025-07-20, Chime Hart <chime@hubert-humphrey.com> wrote:
    Well, unfortunately my main malbox did become read only. If there were a way of
    reading mail in 1 console-and-examining a news-group in another without read only, that would be wonderful. Thanks in advance
    Chime


    The problem is that that would allow two different programs to rewrite
    delete etc from your incoming mail and making a complete mess of the
    INBOX, probably causing you to lose all of the mail in your
    inbox. If you are running two versions of alpine, the two versions of
    alpine do not talks to each other (that would be a real mess to program)
    and could completely mess up the inbox. (They do talk only to the extent
    of one telling the other that it is also running, so the old one can
    convert to read only so you do not mess up the inbox.

    You could just use two different readers for mail and for news groups.
    Eg, pine for mail and slrn for news groups.

    (I suggest slrn since it is really fast in downloading the news)
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  • From Chime Hart@chime@hubert-humphrey.com to comp.mail.pine on Sun Jul 20 11:29:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    Thanks William for your analysis. I thought maybe news-groups-and-e-mail could be looked at independantly? I use trn4 for reading-and-downloading, but I like Alpine for posting or replying. I really didn't understand slrn, although nn was nearest to trn.
    Chime

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  • From Chime Hart@chime@hubert-humphrey.com to comp.mail.pine on Sun Jul 20 20:03:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    Well William, Alpine is a familliar envirenment. With trn I only read-and-grab groups including binaries which for now I must run uudeview to decode. Also in Alpine, I have quoting set to its loest level, which in trn I still hear the mentions of which dates an author is replying about. For myself, listening with
    a screen-reader, it is an extreme waste of time.
    As far as editors, I like NANO but I only use with local files. I think once I tried NANO with Alpine, but switched back to its native editor. I know nothing about Vim or Emacs.
    Chime

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  • From Eduardo Chappa@chappa@washington.edu to comp.mail.pine on Wed Jul 23 11:35:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Chime Hart wrote:

    Well, unfortunately my main malbox did become read only. If there were a
    way of reading mail in 1 console-and-examining a news-group in another without read only, that would be wonderful. Thanks in advance Chime

    use the other rules setup, not two configuration files. From the main
    screen press S R O to set them up.
    --
    Eduardo
    https://alpineapp.email (web)
    http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)
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