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There is not a rich group patronage in comp.lang.scheme despite the
famed compsci importance of scheme. I see almost nobody but B Pym for
the last year - just a few messages from other people.

Anyone have any opinions about where the compsci world vanished to?

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On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 14:53:49 +0100, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

There is not a rich group patronage in comp.lang.scheme despite the
famed compsci importance of scheme.

Thing may have changed somewhat when some group at the National University
of Singapore came up with rCLStructure & Interpretation of Computer
Programs, JavaScript EditionrCY ...
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On 15/10/2025 22:46, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 14:53:49 +0100, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

There is not a rich group patronage in comp.lang.scheme despite the
famed compsci importance of scheme.

Thing may have changed somewhat when some group at the National University of Singapore came up with rCLStructure & Interpretation of Computer Programs, JavaScript EditionrCY ...

How did they get past the parser to actually teach the computation concepts?

--
Tristan Wibberley

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promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation
of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 04:34:42 +0100, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

On 15/10/2025 22:46, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 14:53:49 +0100, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

There is not a rich group patronage in comp.lang.scheme despite the
famed compsci importance of scheme.

Thing may have changed somewhat when some group at the National
University of Singapore came up with rCLStructure & Interpretation of
Computer Programs, JavaScript EditionrCY ...

How did they get past the parser to actually teach the computation
concepts?

<https://sicp.sourceacademy.org/>
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Tristan Wibberley:

There is not a rich group patronage in comp.lang.scheme despite the
famed compsci importance of scheme. I see almost nobody but B Pym for
the last year - just a few messages from other people.

Anyone have any opinions about where the compsci world vanished to?

The broader answer is, the same thing that has happened to USENET in
general - most discussion has moved to other venues, either forum sites
or, increasingly, Sewage Overflow, Discord and Slack servers, or even
Telegram and WhatsApp channels. This has been happening for some time,
but seems to have accelerated in the past five years as long-form forums
in general fall to the wayside.

While it hadn't affected the professional and academic newsgroups as
much before now, USENET in general has slowly been dying for 25 years,
not just because of the existence of alternatives, but also because unmoderated newsgroups tend to be flooded with spam and trolls, and even moderated ones often have difficult preventing cranks such as
Gavino-Learning and B. Pym from monopolizing the discussion. This alone
drives many people, even professionals, away from USENET to systems with
more modern moderation tools, newer and friendlier interfaces, better
support for images, markup, Unicode, etc., which in turn discourages
Internet providers from carrying newsfeeds.

Also, while long-form open-ended discussion has considerable advantages,
the immediacy of chat-style discussions, on the one hand, and highly
focused, question-and-answer formats (i.e., Stack Overflow) on the
other, tend to be more useful for casual discussions and those seeking
direct answers to problems. This has been affecting not only USENET but
other long-form fora as well, meaning that many such groups are seeing dwindling activity, which in turn pushes more people away from them.

And to be frank, at this point most people - even academics - are hardly
aware of USENET as a thing any more, with many never hearing of it at
all, and many others assuming it doesn't exist any more (especially
after the discontinuation of the Google Groups interface). Other methods
of communication have largely replaced it.
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On 14/12/2025 19:18, Schol-R-LEA wrote:

Tristan Wibberley:

There is not a rich group patronage in comp.lang.scheme despite the
famed compsci importance of scheme. I see almost nobody but B Pym for
the last year - just a few messages from other people.

Anyone have any opinions about where the compsci world vanished to?

...

while long-form open-ended discussion has considerable advantages,

And the flood syndication - there are considerable legal issues for
users with web forums.

And to be frank, at this point most people - even academics - are hardly aware of USENET as a thing any more, with many never hearing of it at
all

That's astonishing!

Other methods
of communication have largely replaced it.

I haven't found an adequate alternative.
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Tristan Wibberley

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of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general
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any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that
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