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Let's Talk About Islamic Extremism

/friendlyjordies, 1.42m subscribers/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YoFYb6ahAc>

"Let's have a frank discussion about what has happened over the last week." ~~~~~ ~~~~

Hmmmm. It looks like certain pro-Zionist extremist politicians are
trumpeting at the top of their voices insane both siding and blame
shifting nonsense.

Blaming the atrocities of Islamist extremism on those who demand to see
an end to the ongoing genocidal bloodbath the Israeli Zionist extremist
terror regime is committing against the Palestinian people is an
absolute outrage. /Note, I said the "terror regime" and not "Jews" in
general because these two terms clearly aren't identical in meaning/

Advocating for peace and the restoration of elementary human rights to
the Semitic folk who are indigenous to Palestine can only be equated to Antisemitic terrorism by those who are either totally deranged or who
are ruthless opportunists using unfortunate terrorist incidents to
bolster their own political standing.

The political Left stands with any and all oppressed people around the
planet, not just those who live in Palestine. That is a fact the hard
right faction of politics likes to obfuscate or completely hide from the
sight of the average punter on the streets.

Shame on all those who are responsible for this kind of intentional misrepresentation and falsehood.
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Let's Talk About Islamic Extremism

/friendlyjordies, 1.42m subscribers/ ><https://x.com/i/status/2003191566010319263>

"Let's have a frank discussion about what has happened over the last week." >~~~~~ ~~~~

Hmmmm. It looks like certain pro-Zionist extremist politicians are >trumpeting at the top of their voices insane both siding and blame
shifting nonsense.

Blaming the atrocities of Islamist extremism on those who demand to see
an end to the ongoing genocidal bloodbath the Israeli Zionist extremist >terror regime is committing against the Palestinian people is an
absolute outrage. /Note, I said the "terror regime" and not "Jews" in >general because these two terms clearly aren't identical in meaning/

Advocating for peace and the restoration of elementary human rights to
the Semitic folk who are indigenous to Palestine can only be equated to >Antisemitic terrorism by those who are either totally deranged or who
are ruthless opportunists using unfortunate terrorist incidents to
bolster their own political standing.

The political Left stands with any and all oppressed people around the >planet, not just those who live in Palestine. That is a fact the hard
right faction of politics likes to obfuscate or completely hide from the >sight of the average punter on the streets.

Shame on all those who are responsible for this kind of intentional >misrepresentation and falsehood.

Government inaction on antisemitism plans sat on PM Albanese's desk
despite post-October 2023 surges in attacks on Jews. Jewish leaders
decried a "permissive environment" from downplayed hate speech. Calls
grew for a Royal Commission into fragmented intel-police systems.

here's the evidence the "friendlyjordies" pretend not to know about! <https://www.aseca.gov.au/sites/default/files/2025-07/2025-aseca-plan.pdf>
https://tinyurl.com/667skk92
Special EnvoyAs Plan to Combat Antisemitism
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Let's Talk About Islamic Extremism
/friendlyjordies, 1.42m subscribers/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YoFYb6ahAc>

"Let's have a frank discussion about what has happened over the last week." >> ~~~~~ ~~~~

Hmmmm. It looks like certain pro-Zionist extremist politicians are
trumpeting at the top of their voices insane both siding and blame
shifting nonsense.

Blaming the atrocities of Islamist extremism on those who demand to see
an end to the ongoing genocidal bloodbath the Israeli Zionist extremist
terror regime is committing against the Palestinian people is an
absolute outrage. /Note, I said the "terror regime" and not "Jews" in
general because these two terms clearly aren't identical in meaning/

Advocating for peace and the restoration of elementary human rights to
the Semitic folk who are indigenous to Palestine can only be equated to
Antisemitic terrorism by those who are either totally deranged or who
are ruthless opportunists using unfortunate terrorist incidents to
bolster their own political standing.

The political Left stands with any and all oppressed people around the
planet, not just those who live in Palestine. That is a fact the hard
right faction of politics likes to obfuscate or completely hide from the
sight of the average punter on the streets.

Shame on all those who are responsible for this kind of intentional
misrepresentation and falsehood.

Government inaction on antisemitism

BULLSHIT.

Here:
/friendlyjordies, 1.42m subscribers, 136,870 views 18 Dec 2025/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0gjjea0mQ>

There are more then enough of laws and regulations that could curb Antisemitism already, what is lacking is harsh enforcement.
So when are they finally coming for you and ilk Petz dear???

After all, you have been an advocate of Holocaust revisionism, putting
blame on Jews at least partially. In other words, you are just a fucking
lying hypocrite as well as an obvious Antisemite.

All racists, like you tend to do that in some form or another. They all
spew concocted nonsense and irrational hate against Jews or Arabs or
Blacks or Hispanics or Asians and the people who dare to point that out. Always the same bullshit just in different manifestations.

Jewish leaders decried a "permissive environment" from downplayed hate speech.

Maybe they have seen some of your own and your fellow neo-Nazis posting stochastic terrorist tripe all over Usenet, Petz dear???
:-P :-P :-P

Special EnvoyrCOs Plan to Combat Antisemitism

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

Critiquing the ugly politics of a genocidal regime against the Semitic
folk of Palestine must never be conflated with disgusting Antisemitism
within Australia as this is an absolute oxymoron.
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 21:24:55 +0100, +rd%g, the Newsgroup Devil <newsgroup.devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli >government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political affairs? >She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Echoes of pre-war Germany
Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded
by a decade of onormalisedo antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street
violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include:

Social permission: When antisemitic graffiti, chants or harassment
become common and consequence-free, they signal that Jews are ofair
gameo again in public spaces.

Ideological laundering: Hostility is framed as oanti-Zionismo or oanti-colonialismo, but Jews as such are treated as a monolithic,
guilty group whose institutions and safety are considered legitimate
targets.

Propaganda and indoctrination: In the 1930s, Nazi schooling and media successfully intensified and entrenched anti-Jewish beliefs,
especially where prejudice already existed; research finds cohorts
exposed to this indoctrination remained significantly more antisemitic
decades later.
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YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli
government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political affairs? >> She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can read
for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it) well
understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi
ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across Anglophone as
well in some semi-fascist European countries certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so called AI
(Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded
by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing how
history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone for good
but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found replacements,
eh, both in the US and here in OZ.
/snip the rest/

You must be feeling quite frustrated by now knowing well that socialists
and communist see straight through the idiotic charade of smoke and
mirrors and pathetic deflections you and ilk put up to blame your own nastiness on your truest political enemies.

:-P
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On 24/12/2025 11:21 am, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

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|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli
government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political
affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can read
for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it) well understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European countries certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so called AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded
by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street
violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing how history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone for good
but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found replacements,
eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

/snip the rest/

You must be feeling quite frustrated by now knowing well that socialists
and communist see straight through the idiotic charade of smoke and
mirrors and pathetic deflections you and ilk put up to blame your own nastiness on your truest political enemies.

:-P

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Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli
government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political
affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can read
for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it) well
understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near your
neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across Anglophone
as well in some semi-fascist European countries certainly give that
kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so called
AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded
by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street >>> violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing how
history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone for
good but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found
replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The orange
painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more recent aspirant
to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/
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On 26/12/2025 9:36 am, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

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Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli >>>>> government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political
affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can read
for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it) well
understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near your
neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across Anglophone
as well in some semi-fascist European countries certainly give that
kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so called
AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded
by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street >>>> violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing how
history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone for
good but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found
replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The orange
painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more recent aspirant
to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in text
mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P
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Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli >>>>>> government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal political >>>>>> affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can
read for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it)
well understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near your
neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across
Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European countries certainly
give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so called
AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded >>>>> by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street >>>>> violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little >>>>> public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing
how history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone
for good but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found
replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe
great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The
orange painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more recent
aspirant to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in text
mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel.

F|+hrer means leader in English.
In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of personal
cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the dictator. Stalin did
that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary, Caucescu in Romania, Franco
in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, etc...etc...etc...

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But they all
have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great unwashed for mass
support.
The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the MAGA
cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.
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On 26/12/2025 8:49 pm, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the Israeli >>>>>>> government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal
political affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can
read for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it)
well understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near
your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across
Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European countries
certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so
called AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded >>>>>> by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street >>>>>> violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little >>>>>> public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include: >>>>>

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing
how history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone >>>>> for good but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found >>>>> replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe
great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The
orange painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more
recent aspirant to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in text
mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel.

F|+hrer means leader in English.

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees with you.

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of personal
cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the dictator. Stalin did
that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary, Caucescu in Romania, Franco
in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But they all
have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great unwashed for mass support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST have
mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the Elections!

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the MAGA
cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 .... if it were legal.
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 23:15:58 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 26/12/2025 8:49 pm, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the >>>>>>>> Israeli
government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal >>>>>>>> political affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements. >>>>>>
Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can >>>>>> read for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it) >>>>>> well understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near >>>>>> your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across >>>>>> Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European countries >>>>>> certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews >>>>>> allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so >>>>>> called AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was >>>>>>> preceded
by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, >>>>>>> street
violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which>>>>>>> created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with >>>>>>> little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include: >>>>>>

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing >>>>>> how history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone >>>>>> for good but your group of socio- and psychopath have already found >>>>>> replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe >>>> great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The >>>> orange painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more >>>> recent aspirant to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in text >>> mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel.
F|+hrer means leader in English.

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees with > you.

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with reference to > Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

Or any of the ones before him either

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of personal >> cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the dictator. Stalin did >> that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary, Caucescu in Romania, Franco >> in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran, >> Pinochet in Chile, etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But they all >> have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great unwashed for mass >> support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST have > mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the Elections!

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the MAGA >> cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 .... if it were > legal.

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Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the
Israeli
government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal
political affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements. >>>>>>
Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can
read for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with it) >>>>>> well understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere near
your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across
Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European countries
certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews
allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so
called AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was preceded >>>>>>> by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, street
violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which >>>>>>> created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with little >>>>>>> public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include: >>>>>>

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing >>>>>> how history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone >>>>>> for good but your group of socio- and psychopath have already
found replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe
great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The
orange painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more
recent aspirant to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in text
mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel.

F|+hrer means leader in English.

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees with you.

It should, because I speak German, given that I lived and worked in
Austria 15 odd years and that my wife is a native German speaker. NEXT!

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

Germany today is a democracy that is remorseful of its ugly past. Even
during the years of the DDR, Walter Ulbricht nor any of his successors
aspired to utilise such an obvious personal cult status.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of personal
cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the dictator. Stalin did
that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary, Caucescu in Romania,
Franco in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan in North Korea, Khomeini
in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

That is wrong, Daniel. Why would you expect from non German speaking
countries to use a German term for their dictators.
It is not the actual word usage that matters in this respect but the
cultist status of the *leader*. That is what I am speaking about.

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But they all
have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great unwashed for mass
support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST have
mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the Elections!

Not necessarily. BTW what elections? Elected by whom? Do you believe in election outcomes where the leader receives 99.99% of the votes as
anything real?
What masses are you talking about? Who do you think really elected
Stalin? How about Kim Jong Un? Do you think Pinochet was elected at all???

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the MAGA
cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 .... if it were legal.

The problem with dictatorial regimes and its politicians is that they disregard existing laws, they populate the judiciary with their puppets
and extract outcomes that justifies their dictatorial rule.
Just read about how Hitler did that so masterfully.

Why do you think the US Supreme Court has become such an important tool
for the MAGA regime? If Trump is defeated, it won't be by the rule of
law but by the rule of biology. He is quite unlikely to stay in power
due to poor physical and mental health. Those politicians standing
behind Trump are already working on the route of successions they have
mapped out for the next 30 years or so eventually leading to a POTUS
Trump Junior.
Will they get their way "legally"? Will the MAGA movement survive that
long? Who knows!
But they will try very hard, that is for sure.
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On 27/12/2025 12:45 am, Rod Speed wrote:

On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 23:15:58 +1100, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 26/12/2025 8:49 pm, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent of the >>>>>>>>> Israeli
government with mandate to meddle in Australian internal
political affairs?
She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur!
Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed statements. >>>>>>>
Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those who can >>>>>>> read for comprehension and have a functioning brain to go with
it) well understand where my political home lies...i.e nowhere
near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions across
Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European countries
certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade about Jews >>>>>>> allegedly owning all the media around the World in form of so
called AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust was
preceded
by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti, >>>>>>>> street
violence, media demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which >>>>>>>> created a climate where much worse could be done to Jews with >>>>>>>> little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel familiar today include: >>>>>>>

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is what?
Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more comfortable now, seeing >>>>>>> how history might repeat itself? The original F|+hrer might be
gone for good but your group of socio- and psychopath have
already found replacements, eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful wannabe
great leaders since the well deserved demise of the prototype. The
orange painted felon reigning in White House is one of the more
recent aspirant to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in text
mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

-aNot so fast, Daniel.
-aF|+hrer means leader in English.

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees with
you.

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with reference
to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

Or any of the ones before him either

Correct.
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On 27/12/2025 9:15 am, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent
of the Israeli government with mandate to meddle in
Australian internal political affairs? She should be
sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network
(NSN)?

Non-sequitur! Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely.
And stop removing important context from my attributed
statements.

Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those
who can read for comprehension and have a functioning
brain to go with it) well understand where my political
home lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions
across Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European
countries certainly give that kind of impression.

For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade
about Jews allegedly owning all the media around the
World in form of so called AI (Large Language Model)
hallucinations rubbish. Not so covert Antisemitism, eh
Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust
was preceded by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism:
boycotts, graffiti, street violence, media
demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which
created a climate where much worse could be done to
Jews with little public resistance. The mechanisms that
feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is
what? Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more
comfortable now, seeing how history might repeat itself?
The original F|+hrer might be gone for good but your group
of socio- and psychopath have already found replacements,
eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful
wannabe great leaders since the well deserved demise of the
prototype. The orange painted felon reigning in White House
is one of the more recent aspirant to that endearing title.

I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.

/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!

You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in
text mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel.

F|+hrer means leader in English.

Does it/Did it prior to Hilter?? Or have 'we' just accepted it because
Hitler, The Fuhrer, WAS the leader.

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees
with you.

It should, because I speak German, given that I lived and worked in
Austria 15 odd years and that my wife is a native German speaker.
NEXT!

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with
reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

Germany today is a democracy that is remorseful of its ugly past.

Is Democrate Germany, today, lead by a Further??

Even during the years of the DDR, Walter Ulbricht nor any of his
successors aspired to utilise such an obvious personal cult status.

Correct.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of
personal cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the
dictator. Stalin did that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary,
Caucescu in Romania, Franco in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan
in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran, Pinochet in Chile,
etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

That is wrong, Daniel. Why would you expect from non German speaking countries to use a German term for their dictators. It is not the
actual word usage that matters in this respect but the cultist status
of the *leader*. That is what I am speaking about.

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But
they all have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great
unwashed for mass support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST have
mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the Elections!

Not necessarily. BTW what elections? Elected by whom? Do you believe
in election outcomes where the leader receives 99.99% of the votes as
anything real?

As I understand it, the Germany people elected the party that Hitler was
the leader of into Government in early-mid-30's so, in much the same way
as Albo became P.M. of Australia (because HE was the leader of THE Party
that Won the Election), the people of Germany elected Hitler to be The
Fuhrer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

"He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[b] becoming the
chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then taking the title of F|+hrer und Reichskanzler in 1934"

What masses are you talking about?

The German Peoples who elected the Nazi Party into power in 1933.

Who do you think really elected Stalin?

The members of the (whatever) party that were "in Power" in Russia at
that time.

How about Kim Jong Un?

Inherited his position from his Father .... so he could fall into the
category of "Dictator", Unelected too.

Do you think Pinochet was elected at all???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

Quote
Augusto Jos|- Ram||n Pinochet Ugarte[A][B] (25 November 1915 rCo 10 December 2006) was a Chilean military officer, politician and dictator. From 1973
to 1981, he was the leader of the military junta, which in 1974 declared
him President of Chile;[5][6][7] in 1980, a referendum approved a new constitution confirming him in the office, after which he served as de
jure president from 1981 to 1990.[8] His time in office remains the
longest of any Chilean ruler.[9][C]
End Quote

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the
MAGA cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 .... if it
were legal.

The problem with dictatorial regimes and its politicians is that they
disregard existing laws, they populate the judiciary with their
puppets and extract outcomes that justifies their dictatorial rule.
Just read about how Hitler did that so masterfully.

No, thanks, not enough time!!

Why do you think the US Supreme Court has become such an important
tool for the MAGA regime?

... and the "regimes" previously.

If Trump is defeated, it won't be by the rule of law but by the rule
of biology.

WHAT?? How??

He is quite unlikely to stay in power due to poor physical and mental
health.

and poor popularity!

Those politicians standing behind Trump are already working on the
route of successions they have mapped out for the next 30 years or
so

.... as are, hopefully, the Democrats, .... if they can find a
reasonable Candidate!

eventually leading to a POTUS Trump Junior.

I hope not.

Will they get their way "legally"? Will the MAGA movement survive
that long? Who knows! But they will try very hard, that is for sure.

--
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Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote

|urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent
of the Israeli government with mandate to meddle in
Australian internal political affairs? She should be
sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network
(NSN)?

Non-sequitur! Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely. And stop >>>>>>>> removing important context from my attributed
statements.
Anyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those
who can read for comprehension and have a functioning
brain to go with it) well understand where my political
home lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions
across Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European
countries certainly give that kind of impression.
For instance, you were posting just recently a tirade
about Jews allegedly owning all the media around the
World in form of so called AI (Large Language Model)
hallucinations rubbish. Not so covert Antisemitism, eh
Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust
was preceded by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism:
boycotts, graffiti, street violence, media
demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which created a >>>>>>>>> climate where much worse could be done to
Jews with little public resistance. The mechanisms that
feel familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge is
what? Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more
comfortable now, seeing how history might repeat itself?
The original F|+hrer might be gone for good but your group
of socio- and psychopath have already found replacements,
eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less successful
wannabe great leaders since the well deserved demise of the
prototype. The orange painted felon reigning in White House
is one of the more recent aspirant to that endearing title.
I recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.
/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!
You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in
text mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel.
F|+hrer means leader in English.

Does it/Did it prior to Hilter?? Or have 'we' just accepted it because > Hitler, The Fuhrer, WAS the leader.

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees
with you.

It should, because I speak German, given that I lived and worked in >> Austria 15 odd years and that my wife is a native German speaker.
NEXT!

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with
reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

Germany today is a democracy that is remorseful of its ugly past.

Is Democrate Germany, today, lead by a Further??

Even during the years of the DDR, Walter Ulbricht nor any of his
successors aspired to utilise such an obvious personal cult status.

Correct.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of
personal cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the
dictator. Stalin did that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary,
Caucescu in Romania, Franco in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan
in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran, Pinochet in Chile,
etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

That is wrong, Daniel. Why would you expect from non German speaking>> countries to use a German term for their dictators. It is not the
actual word usage that matters in this respect but the cultist status>> of the *leader*. That is what I am speaking about.

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But
they all have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great
unwashed for mass support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST have >>> mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the Elections!

Not necessarily. BTW what elections? Elected by whom? Do you believe>> in election outcomes where the leader receives 99.99% of the votes as>> anything real?

As I understand it, the Germany people elected the party that Hitler was
the leader of into Government in early-mid-30's so, in much the same way
as Albo became P.M. of Australia (because HE was the leader of THE Party
that Won the Election), the people of Germany elected Hitler to be The> Fuhrer

Nope, nothing like how Albo got to be PM
In Germany at that time, Hindenburg got to decide who would be chancellor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
"He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[b] becoming the
chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then taking the title of F|+hrer und Reichskanzler in 1934"

That mangles the real story

What masses are you talking about?

The German Peoples who elected the Nazi Party into power in 1933.

Who do you think really elected Stalin?

The members of the (whatever) party that were "in Power" in Russia at
that time.

There was no party there at that time

How about Kim Jong Un?

Inherited his position from his Father .... so he could fall into the category of "Dictator", Unelected too.

Technically he was elected but there was only one candidate you could vote for >> Do you think Pinochet was elected at all???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

Quote
Augusto Jos|- Ram||n Pinochet Ugarte[A][B] (25 November 1915 rCo 10 December 2006) was a Chilean military officer, politician and dictator. From 1973
to 1981, he was the leader of the military junta, which in 1974 declared
him President of Chile;[5][6][7] in 1980, a referendum approved a new constitution confirming him in the office, after which he served as de> jure president from 1981 to 1990.[8] His time in office remains the
longest of any Chilean ruler.[9][C]
End Quote

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the
MAGA cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 .... if it>>> were legal.

The problem with dictatorial regimes and its politicians is that they
disregard existing laws, they populate the judiciary with their
puppets and extract outcomes that justifies their dictatorial rule. >> Just read about how Hitler did that so masterfully.

No, thanks, not enough time!!

Why do you think the US Supreme Court has become such an important
tool for the MAGA regime?

... and the "regimes" previously.

If Trump is defeated, it won't be by the rule of law but by the rule
of biology.

WHAT?? How??

He is quite unlikely to stay in power due to poor physical and mental>> health.

and poor popularity!

That remains to be seen

Those politicians standing behind Trump are already working on the
route of successions they have mapped out for the next 30 years or
so

.... as are, hopefully, the Democrats, .... if they can find a
reasonable Candidate!

eventually leading to a POTUS Trump Junior.

Much more likely to be Vance

I hope not.

Will they get their way "legally"? Will the MAGA movement survive
that long? Who knows! But they will try very hard, that is for sure.

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Rod Speed

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

-aYAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman, agent
of the Israeli government with mandate to meddle in
Australian internal political affairs? She should be
sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist Network
(NSN)?

-aNon-sequitur! Stop projecting, Petz dear so profusely. And >>>>>>>>> stop removing important context from my attributed
statements.
-aAnyone familiar with my posts in aus.pol (at least those
who can read for comprehension and have a functioning
brain to go with it) well understand where my political
home lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

-aYes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local versions
across Anglophone as well in some semi-fascist European
countries certainly give that kind of impression.
-aFor instance, you were posting just recently a tirade
about Jews allegedly owning all the media around the
World in form of so called AI (Large Language Model)
hallucinations rubbish. Not so covert Antisemitism, eh
Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the Holocaust
was preceded by a decade of rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: >>>>>>>>>> boycotts, graffiti, street violence, media
demonisation, and gradual legal exclusion, which created a >>>>>>>>>> climate where much worse could be done to
Jews with little public resistance. The mechanisms that
feel familiar today include:

-aYour point is for this copy paste public knowledge is
what? Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more
comfortable now, seeing how history might repeat itself?
The original F|+hrer might be gone for good but your group
of socio- and psychopath have already found replacements,
eh, both in the US and here in OZ.

-a"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other Fuhreres??

-aThere have been quite a number of more or less successful
wannabe great leaders since the well deserved demise of the
prototype. The orange painted felon reigning in White House
is one of the more recent aspirant to that endearing title.
-aI recommend that you Google dictators after World War 2.
-a/snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not 'Furhers'!
-aYou say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know it doesn't work in
text mode but, hopefully, you get the idea!! ;-P

-aNot so fast, Daniel.
-aF|+hrer means leader in English.

Does it/Did it prior to Hilter?? Or have 'we' just accepted it because
Hitler, The Fuhrer, WAS the leader.

It always did.
Are you trying to debate me on the German language, Daniel???

Verb: to lead ---> f|+hren
Noun: the one who leads --->>> der F|+hrer

The word F|+hrer in combination with military ranks had been in use up
until the end of World War 2.
For example: Obersturmbannf|+hrer, Standartenf|+hrer

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate agrees
with you.

-aIt should, because I speak German, given that I lived and worked in
Austria 15 odd years and that my wife is a native German speaker.
NEXT!

-aStrange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with
reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic Leaders.

-aGermany today is a democracy that is remorseful of its ugly past.

Is Democrate Germany, today, lead by a Further??

Nope Germany is a parliamentary democracy, much like Australia.
It does have a head of state: Der Bundespr|nsident

And the head of the parliamentary government is the Budeskanzler, who is
the equivalent of or PM.

So, NO! No leaders there, specially NOT the personal cult types.

Even during the years of the DDR, Walter Ulbricht nor any of his
successors aspired to utilise such an obvious personal cult status.

Correct.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation of
personal cult propaganda for entrenching the power of the
dictator. Stalin did that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in Hungary,
Caucescu in Romania, Franco in Spain, Mao in China, the Kim clan
in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran, Pinochet in Chile,
etc...etc...etc...

-aBut none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

-aThat is wrong, Daniel. Why would you expect from non German speaking
countries to use a German term for their dictators. It is not the
actual word usage that matters in this respect but the cultist status
of the *leader*. That is what I am speaking about.

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all. But
they all have tried this very tactic of mobilising the great
unwashed for mass support.

-aAs they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST have
mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the Elections!

-aNot necessarily. BTW what elections? Elected by whom? Do you believe
in election outcomes where the leader receives 99.99% of the votes as
-aanything real?

As I understand it, the Germany people elected the party that Hitler was
the leader of into Government in early-mid-30's so, in much the same way
as Albo became P.M. of Australia (because HE was the leader of THE Party
that Won the Election), the people of Germany elected Hitler to be The
Fuhrer

No they did not!

Nope, nothing like how Albo got to be PM

Germany did not have the same democratic mechanism as Australia have today.

In Germany at that time, Hindenburg got to decide who would be chancellor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

"He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[b] becoming the
chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then taking the title of F|+hrer und
Reichskanzler in 1934"

That mangles the real story

Yes!

What masses are you talking about?

The German Peoples who elected the Nazi Party into power in 1933.

Thewy did not elect him to be the dictator. He had very cleverly got
into that position through declaring national emergency!

Who do you think really elected Stalin?

The members of the (whatever) party that were "in Power" in Russia at
that time.

There was no party there at that time

Wrong. There was the party, but his take over was the leadership was the result of some very nasty backstabbing machinations by him and his close supporters. He attained absolute power after the death of Lenin.

How about Kim Jong Un?

Inherited his position from his Father .... so he could fall into the
category of "Dictator", Unelected too.

Technically he was elected but there was only one candidate you could
vote for

Do you think Pinochet was elected at all???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

Quote
Augusto Jos|- Ram||n Pinochet Ugarte[A][B] (25 November 1915 rCo 10 December >> 2006) was a Chilean military officer, politician and dictator. From 1973
to 1981, he was the leader of the military junta, which in 1974 declared
him President of Chile;[5][6][7] in 1980, a referendum approved a new
constitution confirming him in the office, after which he served as de
jure president from 1981 to 1990.[8] His time in office remains the
longest of any Chilean ruler.[9][C]
End Quote

So what is your point, Daniel? I still don't see what you are trying to
prove in this discussion.

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all the
MAGA cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the USA.

-aIt worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 .... if it
-awere legal.

-aThe problem with dictatorial regimes and its politicians is that they
-adisregard existing laws, they populate the judiciary with their
puppets and extract outcomes that justifies their dictatorial rule.
Just read-a about how Hitler did that so masterfully.

No, thanks, not enough time!!

Why do you think the US Supreme Court has become such an important
tool for the MAGA regime?

... and the "regimes" previously.

What regimes? Until now the US government was in alignment with its
democratic constitutional guidelines. This seem to be the very first
time in US peacetime history that an attempt is made to concentrate all
power in the presidency thus becoming more and more like a dictatorial
regime.

If Trump is defeated, it won't be by the rule of law but by the rule
of biology.

WHAT?? How??

He is quite unlikely to stay in power due to poor physical and mental
health.

and poor popularity!

That remains to be seen

He won't make it beyond this term. Even he must realise that, despite
all that talk about a third term.

Those politicians standing behind Trump are already working on the
route of successions they have mapped out for the next 30 years or
so

.... as are, hopefully, the Democrats, .... if they can find a
reasonable Candidate!

eventually leading to a POTUS Trump Junior.

Much more likely to be Vance

As the first step, YES!
But I was talking about longer term.

*We JUST FOUND OUT what happens after Trump*

/David Pakman Show 3.42m subscribers, 437,841 views 26 Dec 2025/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn5cPZTQ8Ws>

"A leaked succession blueprint shows Trump allies planning a long-term pipeline of JD Vance, Charlie Kirk, and Donald Trump Jr to preserve
Trumpism"

I hope not.

Yea! Kirk is dead, so they have to dream up a usable replacement.

Will they get their way "legally"?-a Will the MAGA movement survive
that long? Who knows! But they will try very hard, that is for sure.

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Much more likely to be Vance

As the first step, YES!
But I was talking about longer term.

*We JUST FOUND OUT what happens after Trump*

/David Pakman Show 3.42m subscribers, 437,841 views-a 26 Dec 2025/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn5cPZTQ8Ws>

"A leaked succession blueprint shows Trump allies planning a long-term pipeline of JD Vance, Charlie Kirk, and Donald Trump Jr to preserve Trumpism"

I hope not.

Yea! Kirk is dead, so they have to dream up a usable replacement.

Will they get their way "legally"?-a Will the MAGA movement survive
that long? Who knows! But they will try very hard, that is for sure.

Kindly stop posting such seppo centric stuff to this newsgroup.
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On 29/12/2025 8:44 am, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

Rod Speed

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman,
agent of the Israeli government with mandate to
meddle in Australian internal political
affairs? She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist
Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur! Stop projecting, Petz dear so
profusely. And stop removing important context from
my attributed statements. Anyone familiar with my
posts in aus.pol (at least those who can read for
comprehension and have a functioning brain to go
with it) well understand where my political home
lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local
versions across Anglophone as well in some
semi-fascist European countries certainly give that
kind of impression. For instance, you were posting
just recently a tirade about Jews allegedly owning
all the media around the World in form of so called
AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the
Holocaust was preceded by a decade of
rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti,
street violence, media demonisation, and gradual
legal exclusion, which created a climate where
much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel
familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge
is what? Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more
comfortable now, seeing how history might repeat
itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone for good
but your group of socio- and psychopath have
already found replacements, eh, both in the US and
here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other
Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less
successful wannabe great leaders since the well
deserved demise of the prototype. The orange painted
felon reigning in White House is one of the more recent
aspirant to that endearing title. I recommend that you
Google dictators after World War 2. /snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not
'Furhers'! You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know
it doesn't work in text mode but, hopefully, you get the
idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel. F|+hrer means leader in English.

Does it/Did it prior to Hilter?? Or have 'we' just accepted it
because Hitler, The Fuhrer, WAS the leader.

It always did. Are you trying to debate me on the German language,
Daniel???

No, Ordog, by "English" is known as a "Living Language" because words
meanings change and world from other languages are accepted into the
"English Language".

Is German a "Living Language"??

Verb: to lead ---> f|+hren Noun: the one who leads --->>> der F|+hrer

The word F|+hrer in combination with military ranks had been in use up
until the end of World War 2. For example: Obersturmbannf|+hrer, Standartenf|+hrer

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate
agrees with you.

It should, because I speak German, given that I lived and
worked in Austria 15 odd years and that my wife is a native
German speaker. NEXT!

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with
reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic
Leaders.

Germany today is a democracy that is remorseful of its ugly
past.

Is Democrate Germany, today, lead by a Fuhrer??

Nope Germany is a parliamentary democracy, much like Australia. It
does have a head of state: Der Bundespr|nsident

How long was Germany lead by a "Fuhrer"?? Just for the length of
Hitler's reign, maybe.

And the head of the parliamentary government is the Budeskanzler, who
is the equivalent of or PM.

So, NO! No leaders there, specially NOT the personal cult types.

Even during the years of the DDR, Walter Ulbricht nor any of
his successors aspired to utilise such an obvious personal cult
status.

Correct.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation
of personal cult propaganda for entrenching the power of
the dictator. Stalin did that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in
Hungary, Caucescu in Romania, Franco in Spain, Mao in
China, the Kim clan in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran,
Pinochet in Chile, etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

That is wrong, Daniel. Why would you expect from non German
speaking countries to use a German term for their dictators.

So why did YOU include them in this discussion of Germany and Fuhrer??

It
is not the actual word usage that matters in this respect but
the cultist status of the *leader*. That is what I am speaking
about.

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all.
But they all have tried this very tactic of mobilising the
great unwashed for mass support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST
have mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the
Elections!

Not necessarily. BTW what elections? Elected by whom? Do you
believe in election outcomes where the leader receives 99.99%
of the votes as anything real?

As I understand it, the Germany people elected the party that
Hitler was the leader of into Government in early-mid-30's so, in
much the same way as Albo became P.M. of Australia (because HE
was the leader of THE Party that Won the Election), the people of
Germany elected Hitler to be The Fuhrer

No they did not!

Nope, nothing like how Albo got to be PM

Germany did not have the same democratic mechanism as Australia have
today.

In Germany at that time, Hindenburg got to decide who would be
chancellor

.... and that chancellor was the leader of Germany. And then that
Chancellor (also) took the title 'Fuhrer'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

"He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[b] becoming
the chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then taking the title of
F|+hrer und Reichskanzler in 1934"

That mangles the real story

Ah! Well, what can I say .... "It came from wikipedia!!".

If you know better (I don't), perhaps you should Edit Wikipedia.

Yes!

What masses are you talking about?

The German Peoples who elected the Nazi Party into power in
1933.

Thewy did not elect him to be the dictator. He had very cleverly got
into that position through declaring national emergency!

Just as the Australian people *DIDN'T* elect Albo Prime Minister.

Who do you think really elected Stalin?

The members of the (whatever) party that were "in Power" in
Russia at that time.

There was no party there at that time

Wrong. There was the party, but his take over was the leadership was
the result of some very nasty backstabbing machinations by him and
his close supporters. He attained absolute power after the death of
Lenin.

How about Kim Jong Un?

Inherited his position from his Father .... so he could fall into
the category of "Dictator", Unelected too.

Technically he was elected but there was only one candidate you
could vote for

Do you think Pinochet was elected at all???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

Quote Augusto Jos|- Ram||n Pinochet Ugarte[A][B] (25 November 1915
rCo 10 December 2006) was a Chilean military officer, politician
and dictator. From 1973 to 1981, he was the leader of the
military junta, which in 1974 declared him President of
Chile;[5][6][7] in 1980, a referendum approved a new constitution
confirming him in the office, after which he served as de jure
president from 1981 to 1990.[8] His time in office remains the
longest of any Chilean ruler.[9][C] End Quote

So what is your point, Daniel? I still don't see what you are trying
to prove in this discussion.

You asked if I thought Pinochet was elected by the people OR even by the members of his Party. The quoted reference indicates .........??

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all
the MAGA cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the
USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 ....
if it were legal.

The problem with dictatorial regimes and its politicians is
that they disregard existing laws, they populate the judiciary
with their puppets and extract outcomes that justifies their
dictatorial rule. Just read about how Hitler did that so
masterfully.

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On 29/12/2025 7:46 pm, Daniel70 wrote:

On 29/12/2025 8:44 am, |urd||g, the Newsgroup Devil wrote:

Rod Speed

Daniel70

<Snip>

Does it/Did it prior to Hilter?? Or have 'we' just accepted it
because Hitler, The Fuhrer, WAS the leader.

It always did. Are you trying to debate me on the German language,
Daniel???

No, Ordog, by "English" is known as a "Living Language" because words meanings change and world from other languages are accepted into the "English Language".

s/world/words
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Daniel70

|urd||g

Rod Speed

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g

Daniel70

|urd||g,

Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g,

YAWN! Do you mean that Zionist extremist woman,
agent of the Israeli government with mandate to
meddle in Australian internal political
affairs? She should be sent back to Netanyahu.

You belong to Australia's National Socialist
Network (NSN)?

Non-sequitur! Stop projecting, Petz dear so
profusely. And stop removing important context from
my attributed statements. Anyone familiar with my
posts in aus.pol (at least those who can read for
comprehension and have a functioning brain to go
with it) well understand where my political home
lies...i.e nowhere near your neo-Nazi ilk!

Echoes of pre-war Germany

Yes. MAGA Trumpism and its different local
versions across Anglophone as well in some
semi-fascist European countries certainly give that
kind of impression. For instance, you were posting
just recently a tirade about Jews allegedly owning
all the media around the World in form of so called
AI (Large Language Model) hallucinations rubbish.
Not so covert Antisemitism, eh Petz dear???

Historians of Nazi Germany emphasise that the
Holocaust was preceded by a decade of
rCLnormalisedrCY antisemitism: boycotts, graffiti,
street violence, media demonisation, and gradual
legal exclusion, which created a climate where
much worse could be done to Jews with little
public resistance. The mechanisms that feel
familiar today include:

Your point is for this copy paste public knowledge
is what? Aren't you starting to feel somewhat more
comfortable now, seeing how history might repeat
itself? The original F|+hrer might be gone for good
but your group of socio- and psychopath have
already found replacements, eh, both in the US and
here in OZ.

"The original F|+hrer"?? Were there ever other
Fuhreres??

There have been quite a number of more or less
successful wannabe great leaders since the well
deserved demise of the prototype. The orange painted
felon reigning in White House is one of the more recent
aspirant to that endearing title. I recommend that you
Google dictators after World War 2. /snip/

Sure!! "Dictators" have been around .... but not
'Furhers'! You say 'either' ... I say 'either'!! I know
it doesn't work in text mode but, hopefully, you get the
idea!! ;-P

Not so fast, Daniel. F|+hrer means leader in English.

Does it/Did it prior to Hilter?? Or have 'we' just accepted it
because Hitler, The Fuhrer, WAS the leader.

It always did. Are you trying to debate me on the German language,
Daniel???

No, Ordog, by "English" is known as a "Living Language" because words meanings change and world from other languages are accepted into the "English Language".

Is German a "Living Language"??

Sorry, I fail to see the point you are trying to make here?

Verb: to lead-a ---> f|+hren Noun: the one who leads --->>> der F|+hrer

The word F|+hrer in combination with military ranks had been in use up
until the end of World War 2. For example: Obersturmbannf|+hrer,
Standartenf|+hrer

Hmm! O.K., with a bit of kajoeling (??), Google.Translate
agrees with you.

It should, because I speak German, given that I lived and
worked in Austria 15 odd years and that my wife is a native
German speaker. NEXT!

Strange how I ONLY recall the word 'F|+hrer' being used with
reference to Hitler, not any of the more recent Germanic
Leaders.

Germany today is a democracy that is remorseful of its ugly
past.

Is Democrate Germany, today, lead by a Fuhrer??

Nope Germany is a parliamentary democracy, much like Australia. It
does have a head of state: Der Bundespr|nsident

How long was Germany lead by a "Fuhrer"?? Just for the length of
Hitler's reign, maybe.

Sorry, I fail to see the point you are trying to make here?

It seem to me that you are hung up on that particular word, and ignoring
the concept it represents.
But in order to understand bettere the background story you should read
up on the brief history of the Weimar Republic.

And the head of the parliamentary government is the Budeskanzler, who
is the equivalent of our PM.

So, NO! No leaders there, specially NOT the personal cult types.

Even during the years of the DDR, Walter Ulbricht nor any of
his successors aspired to utilise such an obvious personal cult
status.

Correct.

In dictatorial political terms this means the utilisation
of personal cult propaganda for entrenching the power of
the dictator. Stalin did that in the USSR, so did R|ikosi in
Hungary, Caucescu in Romania, Franco in Spain, Mao in
China, the Kim clan in North Korea, Khomeini in Iran,
Pinochet in Chile, etc...etc...etc...

But none of them were called 'F|+hrer'!

That is wrong, Daniel. Why would you expect from non German
speaking countries to use a German term for their dictators.

So why did YOU include them in this discussion of Germany and Fuhrer??

C'me on, Daniel! You started this discussion somehow questioning my
usage of the word Fuhrer in my OP.
But I have clearly explained to you (or at least tried hard) that I was
really talking about the concept of what it represents, which is never
was unique to Germany.
But of course, I could have used the word *Duce* instead, eh?
Guess what that means in Italian?
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duce>
Having a strongman *leader* tend to be a feature of fascist regimes.

It looks like to me, we are arguing past each other and not with each
other on this subject matter.

It
is not the actual word usage that matters in this respect but
the cultist status of the *leader*. That is what I am speaking
about.

Were they all as successful as Hitler? Certainly not all.
But they all have tried this very tactic of mobilising the
great unwashed for mass support.

As they were Political Leaders of those Countries, they MUST
have mobilised the masses .... at least BEFORE the
Elections!

Not necessarily. BTW what elections? Elected by whom? Do you
believe in election outcomes where the leader receives 99.99%
of the votes as anything real?

As I understand it, the Germany people elected the party that
Hitler was the leader of into Government in early-mid-30's so, in
much the same way as Albo became P.M. of Australia (because HE
was the leader of THE Party that Won the Election), the people of
Germany elected Hitler to be The Fuhrer

No they did not!

Nope, nothing like how Albo got to be PM

Germany did not have the same democratic mechanism as Australia have
today.

In Germany at that time, Hindenburg got to decide who would be
chancellor

.... and that chancellor was the leader of Germany. And then that
Chancellor (also) took the title 'Fuhrer'.

To be accurate Hitler took the title as a replacement for that
superseded position by becoming a fascist dictator.

I am sorry, I still don't get the point what you are arguing here!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

"He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[b] becoming
the chancellor of Germany in 1933 and then taking the title of
F|+hrer und Reichskanzler in 1934"

That mangles the real story

Ah! Well, what can I say .... "It came from wikipedia!!".
If you know better (I don't), perhaps you should Edit Wikipedia.

Well, wiki is not always correct and not always telling the full story.
But that is beside the point.

I still do not get what you are trying to argue about!
Sorry, my bad!

Yes!

What masses are you talking about?

The German Peoples who elected the Nazi Party into power in
1933.

They did not elect him to be the dictator. He had very cleverly got
into that position through declaring national emergency!

Just as the Australian people *DIDN'T* elect Albo Prime Minister.

Albo is just an elected representative who was given the position of PM
by the parliamentary party. And clearly he did not become a dictator
despite of the nonsense Petz and friends are alleging.

But that was not the same as how governments worked in the Weimar Republic.

Who do you think really elected Stalin?

The members of the (whatever) party that were "in Power" in
Russia at that time.

There was no party there at that time

Wrong. There was the party, but his take over was the leadership was
the result of some very nasty backstabbing machinations by him and
his close supporters. He attained absolute power after the death of
Lenin.

How about Kim Jong Un?

Inherited his position from his Father .... so he could fall into
the category of "Dictator", Unelected too.

Technically he was elected but there was only one candidate you
could vote for

Do you think Pinochet was elected at all???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

Quote Augusto Jos|- Ram||n Pinochet Ugarte[A][B] (25 November 1915
rCo 10 December 2006) was a Chilean military officer, politician
and dictator. From 1973 to 1981, he was the leader of the
military junta, which in 1974 declared him President of
Chile;[5][6][7] in 1980, a referendum approved a new constitution
confirming him in the office, after which he served as de jure
president from 1981 to 1990.[8] His time in office remains the
longest of any Chilean ruler.[9][C] End Quote

So what is your point, Daniel? I still don't see what you are trying
to prove in this discussion.

You asked if I thought Pinochet was elected by the people OR even by the members of his Party. The quoted reference indicates .........??

I gave you examples of fascist/authoritarian *leaders*.
My argument was/still is in this thread, and that was right from the OP:

Fascist dictatorships rely on a "Leader" . How these creeps get into the position of real or forced worship by the masses is basically irrelevant
in view of their horrible actions.

The Trump regime is trying it right now by mobilising all
the MAGA cultists to bring democracy to its knees in the
USA.

It worked in 2024. I doubt it would have done so in 2028 ....
if it were legal.

The problem with dictatorial regimes and its politicians is
that they disregard existing laws, they populate the judiciary
with their puppets and extract outcomes that justifies their
dictatorial rule. Just read-a about how Hitler did that so
masterfully.

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