• M$ doesn't have enough electricity for AI

    From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Nov 4 13:26:53 2025
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    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-bunch-of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>
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  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to aus.computers,aus.legal on Wed Nov 5 14:55:11 2025
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    On 04-Nov-25 10:26 am, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-bunch-of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>


    This is because AI is still based on simulated neural networks, rather
    than actual neural networks. Such simulations require a lot of multiplications. However, doing this digitally is costly in energy, and produces exact results which are really not needed, or indeed very
    useful, in this application.

    A while back there was a company working on devices to do these multiplications by analogue means, with a huge reduction in power. I
    haven't heard anything more about it though.

    Sylvia.
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  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers,aus.legal on Sat Nov 8 16:46:57 2025
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    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/ microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to- install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-bunch- of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>

    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power, Musk
    wants to put AI data centres into orbit.
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers,aus.legal on Sat Nov 8 19:17:43 2025
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    keithr0 wrote:
    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/
    microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-
    install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-bunch-
    of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>

    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power, Musk
    wants to put AI data centres into orbit.

    how do AI humanoid robots manage then?
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers,aus.legal on Mon Nov 10 16:54:24 2025
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    keithr0 wrote:
    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/
    microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-
    install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-bunch- of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>


    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power,



    It must be a helleva battery in those humanoid robots then

    Musk wants to put AI data centres into orbit.
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  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers,aus.legal on Wed Nov 12 21:30:10 2025
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    On 10/11/2025 3:54 pm, Felix wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/
    microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-
    install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-
    bunch- of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>

    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power,



    It must be a helleva battery in those humanoid robots then

    The "AIs" in them are hardly worth the name, they can respond to a
    limited number of situations, their lack of computing power is the
    reason that there aren't any doing anything really useful. If you ever
    see one that can be given a shopping list and go around Woolies and
    collect all the items on the list then you might be able to say that it
    has very basic intelligence.

    -aMusk wants to put AI data centres into orbit.

    OTOH, what most people think of as "AI" are more properly called LLMs
    (Large Language Models), they need huge amounts of data, for instance
    GPT4 has 1.8 TRILLION parameters. It takes a huge amount of computing
    power to go through all that data, make inferences, and sometimes come
    up with a cogent and correct answer.

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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers,aus.legal on Thu Nov 13 07:53:16 2025
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    On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 21:30:10 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 3:54 pm, Felix wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/
    microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-
    install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-
    bunch- of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>

    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power,



    It must be a helleva battery in those humanoid robots then

    The "AIs" in them are hardly worth the name, they can respond to a
    limited number of situations, their lack of computing power is the
    reason that there aren't any doing anything really useful. If you ever
    see one that can be given a shopping list and go around Woolies and
    collect all the items on the list then you might be able to say that it
    has very basic intelligence.

    aMusk wants to put AI data centres into orbit.

    OTOH, what most people think of as "AI" are more properly called LLMs
    (Large Language Models), they need huge amounts of data, for instance
    GPT4 has 1.8 TRILLION parameters. It takes a huge amount of computing
    power to go through all that data, make inferences, and sometimes come
    up with a cogent and correct answer.

    Answer to Felix's question
    humanoid robots may operate by receiving transmitter information from
    larger computers, which act as central control units coordinating
    distributed onboard controllers for real-time operation.

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    Petzl
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  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers,aus.legal on Thu Nov 13 09:57:05 2025
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    On 13/11/2025 6:53 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 21:30:10 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 3:54 pm, Felix wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/ >>>>> microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-
    install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-
    bunch- of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>

    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power,



    It must be a helleva battery in those humanoid robots then

    The "AIs" in them are hardly worth the name, they can respond to a
    limited number of situations, their lack of computing power is the
    reason that there aren't any doing anything really useful. If you ever
    see one that can be given a shopping list and go around Woolies and
    collect all the items on the list then you might be able to say that it
    has very basic intelligence.

    -aMusk wants to put AI data centres into orbit.

    OTOH, what most people think of as "AI" are more properly called LLMs
    (Large Language Models), they need huge amounts of data, for instance
    GPT4 has 1.8 TRILLION parameters. It takes a huge amount of computing
    power to go through all that data, make inferences, and sometimes come
    up with a cogent and correct answer.

    Answer to Felix's question
    humanoid robots may operate by receiving transmitter information from
    larger computers, which act as central control units coordinating
    distributed onboard controllers for real-time operation.

    A "Receiving transmitter"? That would be something new, anyway felix was implying that there were humanoid robots with built in AI not connected
    to some controlling machine elsewhere.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers,aus.legal on Thu Nov 13 18:51:48 2025
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    On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 09:57:05 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 13/11/2025 6:53 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 21:30:10 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 10/11/2025 3:54 pm, Felix wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 4/11/2025 12:26 pm, Felix wrote:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/ >>>>>> microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-
    install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-
    bunch- of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in>

    Same with all "AIs", they all use incredible amounts of power,



    It must be a helleva battery in those humanoid robots then

    The "AIs" in them are hardly worth the name, they can respond to a
    limited number of situations, their lack of computing power is the
    reason that there aren't any doing anything really useful. If you ever
    see one that can be given a shopping list and go around Woolies and
    collect all the items on the list then you might be able to say that it
    has very basic intelligence.

    aMusk wants to put AI data centres into orbit.

    OTOH, what most people think of as "AI" are more properly called LLMs
    (Large Language Models), they need huge amounts of data, for instance
    GPT4 has 1.8 TRILLION parameters. It takes a huge amount of computing
    power to go through all that data, make inferences, and sometimes come
    up with a cogent and correct answer.

    Answer to Felix's question
    humanoid robots may operate by receiving transmitter information from
    larger computers, which act as central control units coordinating
    distributed onboard controllers for real-time operation.

    A "Receiving transmitter"? That would be something new, anyway felix was >implying that there were humanoid robots with built in AI not connected
    to some controlling machine elsewhere.

    For simple functions thats true.
    "AI not connected to some controlling machine elsewhere."
    Is not the way it's going to go at present, IMO
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    Petzl
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