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Elon Musk has officially confirmed what millions have been waiting
for: the first 100 Tesla Tiny Houses are ready to ship. Priced at just $7,999, these revolutionary homes promise to change the way people
live rCo forever. Fully solar-powered, off-grid ready, and equipped with AI-driven smart systems, the Tesla Tiny House is being hailed as the
boldest step yet toward true energy independence.
The next phase, Musk confirmed, will be 10,000 homes by mid-2026 rCo a massive scaling effort that could make Tesla one of the largest
housing developers in the world.
Petzl wrote:
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Elon Musk has officially confirmed what millions have been waiting
for: the first 100 Tesla Tiny Houses are ready to ship. Priced at just
$7,999, these revolutionary homes promise to change the way people
live rCo forever. Fully solar-powered, off-grid ready, and equipped with
AI-driven smart systems, the Tesla Tiny House is being hailed as the
boldest step yet toward true energy independence.
The next phase, Musk confirmed, will be 10,000 homes by mid-2026 rCo a
massive scaling effort that could make Tesla one of the largest
housing developers in the world.
I've thought for some time that we get away from the idea that housing
needs to be a brick veneer dwelling or an apartment in a multi level apartment block, both of which are expensive to own and build. surely
with the technology we have today there must be simpler solutions
available, and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of
mine in the States is building a tiny house at present. however, the
biggest problem against affordable housing is the opposition it would
face from loss of jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist
re housing. but with so many homeless, and those unable to afford
housing or even rent, the system needs to change.
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https://tinyurl.com/tat2ct9y
Elon Musk has officially confirmed what millions have been waiting
for: the first 100 Tesla Tiny Houses are ready to ship. Priced at just $7,999, these revolutionary homes promise to change the way people
live rCo forever. Fully solar-powered, off-grid ready, and equipped with AI-driven smart systems, the Tesla Tiny House is being hailed as the
boldest step yet toward true energy independence.
The next phase, Musk confirmed, will be 10,000 homes by mid-2026 rCo a massive scaling effort that could make Tesla one of the largest
housing developers in the world.
Petzl wrote:
<https://av.colofandom.com/aviet/breaking-elon-musk-announces-100-tesla-tiny-houses-ready-to-ship-free-bills-zero-taxes-and-surprising-interiors-the-wait-is-finally-over-elon-musk-just-confirmed-the-first-100-tesla-tiny/>
https://tinyurl.com/tat2ct9y
Elon Musk has officially confirmed what millions have been waiting
for: the first 100 Tesla Tiny Houses are ready to ship. Priced at just
$7,999, these revolutionary homes promise to change the way people
live u forever. Fully solar-powered, off-grid ready, and equipped with
AI-driven smart systems, the Tesla Tiny House is being hailed as the
boldest step yet toward true energy independence.
The next phase, Musk confirmed, will be 10,000 homes by mid-2026 u a
massive scaling effort that could make Tesla one of the largest
housing developers in the world.
I've thought for some time that we get away from the idea that housing
needs to be a brick veneer dwelling or an apartment in a multi level >apartment block, both of which are expensive to own and build. surely
with the technology we have today there must be simpler solutions
available, and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of
mine in the States is building a tiny house at present. however, the
biggest problem against affordable housing is the opposition it would
face from loss of jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re >housing. but with so many homeless, and those unable to afford housing
or even rent, the system needs to change.
Petzl wroteThst has never been true, double brick, concrete walls and
<https://av.colofandom.com/aviet/breaking-elon-musk-announces-100-tesla-tiny-houses-ready-to-ship-free-bills-zero-taxes-and-surprising-interiors-the-wait-is-finally-over-elon-musk-just-confirmed-the-first-100-tesla-tiny/>I've thought for some time that we get away from the idea that housing > needs to be a brick veneer dwelling or an apartment in a multi level > apartment block,
https://tinyurl.com/tat2ct9y
Elon Musk has officially confirmed what millions have been waiting
for: the first 100 Tesla Tiny Houses are ready to ship. Priced at just
$7,999, these revolutionary homes promise to change the way people
live rCo forever. Fully solar-powered, off-grid ready, and equipped with
AI-driven smart systems, the Tesla Tiny House is being hailed as the
boldest step yet toward true energy independence.
The next phase, Musk confirmed, will be 10,000 homes by mid-2026 rCo a
massive scaling effort that could make Tesla one of the largest
housing developers in the world.
both of which are expensive to own and build.Bullshit
surely with the technology we have today there must be simpler solutions > available,There always have been and still are
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the > States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest problem > against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of > jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.No legal problem with tiny houses
but with so many homeless, and those unable to afford housing or even > rent, the system needs to change.Nope, its available now. Most dont choose to go that route tho
On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 11:15:10 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
Petzl wrote:Turns out it was a scam click bait article
<https://av.colofandom.com/aviet/breaking-elon-musk-announces-100-tesla-tiny-houses-ready-to-ship-free-bills-zero-taxes-and-surprising-interiors-the-wait-is-finally-over-elon-musk-just-confirmed-the-first-100-tesla-tiny/>I've thought for some time that we get away from the idea that housing
https://tinyurl.com/tat2ct9y
Elon Musk has officially confirmed what millions have been waiting
for: the first 100 Tesla Tiny Houses are ready to ship. Priced at just
$7,999, these revolutionary homes promise to change the way people
live rCo forever. Fully solar-powered, off-grid ready, and equipped with >>> AI-driven smart systems, the Tesla Tiny House is being hailed as the
boldest step yet toward true energy independence.
The next phase, Musk confirmed, will be 10,000 homes by mid-2026 rCo a
massive scaling effort that could make Tesla one of the largest
housing developers in the world.
needs to be a brick veneer dwelling or an apartment in a multi level
apartment block, both of which are expensive to own and build. surely
with the technology we have today there must be simpler solutions
available, and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of
mine in the States is building a tiny house at present. however, the
biggest problem against affordable housing is the opposition it would
face from loss of jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re
housing. but with so many homeless, and those unable to afford housing
or even rent, the system needs to change.
Turns out it was a scam click bait article
he is building low cost housing. it's all over youtube eg. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvOl41KKFs
Petzl wrote:
Turns out it was a scam click bait article
he is building low cost housing. it's all over youtube eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvOl41KKFs
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest problem >> against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
Petzl wrote:
Turns out it was a scam click bait article
he is building low cost housing. it's all over youtube eg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvOl41KKFs
Proof would surely be an actual Tesla web page. Where are people
ordering these things from?
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/tiny-house-on-wheels-evictions-nsw-victoria-calls-or-legislation-change/b7a4f440-a547-499d-b082-3ec62fd3264a--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
https://rangestrader.mailcommunity.com.au/news/2025-04-26/tiny-house-eviction-highlights-policy-gaps/
https://www.heus.com.au/news/reality-checkwe-live-in-tiny-home-community-but-are-facing-eviction-over-by-laws-that-dont-fit-the-reality-the-clock-is-ticking
Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
Petzl wrote:Proof would surely be an actual Tesla web page. Where are people
Turns out it was a scam click bait articlehe is building low cost housing. it's all over youtube eg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvOl41KKFs
ordering these things from?
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of >>>> jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal
and you are confusing small houses with ones with wheels
In aus.legal Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wroteSure they're legal, if you comply with the "many rules and
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteThey have always been legal
There can be now that they're so popular:and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggestNo legal problem with tiny houses
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of >>>>> jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
regulations", such as not living there for more than 18 months, 2
years, etc. depending on your council. Or get planning permission
and building inspections for a permanent structure which is another
mountain of red tape. Therein lies the legal problem.
and you are confusing small houses with ones with wheelsNope the same thing applies to both. Councils can put up lots of
legal obstacles if they don't want you living in one.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss >>>>> of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal
Sure they're legal, if you comply with the "many rules and
regulations", such as not living there for more than 18 months, 2
years, etc. depending on your council.
Or get planning permission
and building inspections for a permanent structure which is another
mountain of red tape.
Therein lies the legal problem.
and you are confusing small houses with ones with wheels
Nope the same thing applies to both.
Councils can put up lots of legal obstaclesif they don't want you
living in one.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Sure they're legal, if you comply with the "many rules andThey have always been legalThere can be now that they're so popular:and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in >>>>>> theNo legal problem with tiny houses
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from
loss of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
regulations", such as not living there for more than 18 months, 2
years, etc. depending on your council. Or get planning permission
and building inspections for a permanent structure which is another
mountain of red tape. Therein lies the legal problem.
and you are confusing small houses with ones with wheelsNope the same thing applies to both. Councils can put up lots of
legal obstacles if they don't want you living in one.
imagine trying to have one in Toorak or Brighton :)
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Or get planning permission
and building inspections for a permanent structure which is another
mountain of red tape.
There is no mountain of red tape to build
a small house on a block of land you own.
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Or get planning permission
and building inspections for a permanent structure which is another
mountain of red tape.
There is no mountain of red tape to build
a small house on a block of land you own.
Rubbish,
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
or it's a "temporary structure"
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As described in the links I posted.
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of >>>> jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with ones with wheels
Rod Speed wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss >>>>> of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with
ones with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels.
If they didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
or it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As
described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
All the red tape is a new thing,
it wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed was just a year ago.
Certainly put me off getting anything new built.
Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
They're supposed to be different to a normal house,
that's the
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
or it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As
described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels,
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "Legal
issues" exist regardless.
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
All the red tape is a new thing,
More bullshit, 3 of my mates have just moved in to the
big 4 bedroom houses they got built for them in the
new subdivisions and they all have sheds and virtually
all the other new houses have a shed and you can check
that using google satellite view and google earth
it wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed was
just a year ago.
So were those 3 mates of mine and the
other houses in those new subdivisions
Certainly put me off getting anything new built.
More fool you.
Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning
permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
That's not a normal housing block
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
They're supposed to be different to a normal house,
Only because of the size
that's the
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
More bullshit when that design has already
been approved with previous sales.
or it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As
described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels,
Bullshit, that's what makes it temporary
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "Legal
issues" exist regardless.
Not necessarily, plenty of sheds dont need any
planning permission or any council involvement
because of their sized
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
All the red tape is a new thing,
More bullshit, 3 of my mates have just moved in to the
big 4 bedroom houses they got built for them in the
new subdivisions and they all have sheds and virtually
all the other new houses have a shed and you can check
that using google satellite view and google earth
it wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed was
just a year ago.
So were those 3 mates of mine and the
other houses in those new subdivisions
Certainly put me off getting anything new built.
More fool you.
Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning
permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
That's not a normal housing block
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
They're supposed to be different to a normal house,
Only because of the size
that's the
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
More bullshit when that design has already
been approved with previous sales.
or it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As
described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels,
Bullshit, that's what makes it temporary
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "Legal
issues" exist regardless.
Not necessarily, plenty of sheds dont need any
planning permission or any council involvement
because of their sized
On 15/11/2025 10:06 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of >>>>> jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with ones
with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels. If they
didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteThe house we bought is MUCH bigger than that
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wroteGeneral NSW guidelines for exempt development
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteMore bullshit, 3 of my mates have just moved in to the
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wroteAll the red tape is a new thing,
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upaNo planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by theNothing even remotely like that here or for any
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
big 4 bedroom houses they got built for them in the
new subdivisions and they all have sheds and virtually
all the other new houses have a shed and you can check
that using google maps satellite view and google earth
it wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed wasSo were those 3 mates of mine and the
just a year ago.
other houses in those new subdivisions
Certainly put me off getting anything new built.More fool you.
Requirements vary by councilThat's not a normal housing block
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning
permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
Only because of the sizeThey're supposed to be different to a normal house,No different to a normal houseAnd pleny will sell you a small house with everythingSure, but then you need it approved
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
that's theMore bullshit when that design has already
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
been approved with previous sales.
Bullshit, that's what makes it temporaryIt's irrelevent whether it has wheels,or it's a "temporary structure"Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As>>>>> described in the links I posted.Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "LegalNot necessarily, plenty of sheds dont need any
issues" exist regardless.
planning permission or any council involvement
because of their sized
Maximum floor area: Up to 20m# (4.4 x 4.4) in residential zones.
Maximum height: Up to 3 metres.
you might squeeze in a double bed, very little room after thatBut you are free to get normal house approval
Location: Must be located behind the front building line.But is bugger all, in spades with my neighbour mate's
Boundary setbacks: Must comply with specific setback distances from
property boundaries, which can vary.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
All the red tape is a new thing,
More bullshit, 3 of my mates have just moved in to the
big 4 bedroom houses they got built for them in the
new subdivisions and they all have sheds and virtually
all the other new houses have a shed and you can check
that using google satellite view and google earth
So they went through all the red tape,
it's still a problem,
and likely more of it for a house
rather than a shed not intended to
be lived in (or even have power/water connected in that garden
shed's case).
it wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed was
just a year ago.
So were those 3 mates of mine and the
other houses in those new subdivisions
Maybe they have nicer councils, but the legal problems are still
there in councils that aren't so nice.
Certainly put me off getting anything new built.
More fool you.
Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning
permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
That's not a normal housing block
Neither shed is on a "normal housing block".
Like I said, the middle of farmland.
In "normal housing blocks" you'll have neighbours
complaining instead,
like in one of the tiny home links I posted
but you're determined to make up excuses to ignore that.
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
They're supposed to be different to a normal house,
Only because of the size
Nothing new about small kit houses, Aussieshave been living in them for over 100 years.
The idea is you can plonk one of these
in a place you can't afford to put one of those other small houses.
Rules and regulations won't make that so easy for many people.
that's the
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
More bullshit when that design has already
been approved with previous sales.
Same with my neighbour's shed kit which is a stock design by an
Australian shed manufacturer.
or it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As
described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels,
Bullshit, that's what makes it temporary
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "Legal
issues" exist regardless.
Not necessarily, plenty of sheds dont need any
planning permission or any council involvement
because of their sized
Only if the council is nice about them.
Fact is that mine makes it
hard, and many councils are making it hard for tiny houses too.
In aus.legal Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wroteAll the red tape is a new thing, it wasn't the case a few decades
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upaNo planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by theNothing even remotely like that here or for any
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
ago but my neighbour's garden shed was just a year ago. Certainly
put me off getting anything new built. Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
They're supposed to be different to a normal house, that's theNo different to a normal houseAnd pleny will sell you a small house with everythingSure, but then you need it approved
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels, it's about whether it'sor it's a "temporary structure"Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. AsThose were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
described in the links I posted.
approved as a permanent structure. "Legal issues" exist regardless.
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from
loss of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
-aThey have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with
ones with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels.
What some fuckwit pom may or may not have seen is completely irrelevant
The small houses that come on a truck don't have wheels and neither
what the mining industry calls dongas either and neither do granny flats
If they-a didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
Just like a normal house and you are wrong about demountables too in
many jurisdictions
In aus.computers Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
I saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa
modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
All the red tape is a new thing,
More bullshit, 3 of my mates have just moved in to the
big 4 bedroom houses they got built for them in the
new subdivisions and they all have sheds and virtually
all the other new houses have a shed and you can check
that using google satellite view and google earth
So they went through all the red tape, it's still a problem, and
likely more of it for a house rather than a shed not intended to
be lived in (or even have power/water connected in that garden
shed's case).
it wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed was
just a year ago.
So were those 3 mates of mine and the
other houses in those new subdivisions
Maybe they have nicer councils, but the legal problems are still
there in councils that aren't so nice.
Certainly put me off getting anything new built.
More fool you.
Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning
permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
That's not a normal housing block
Neither shed is on a "normal housing block". Like I said, the middle
of farmland. In "normal housing blocks" you'll have neighbours
complaining instead, like in one of the tiny home links I posted but
you're determined to make up excuses to ignore that.
And pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
They're supposed to be different to a normal house,
Only because of the size
Nothing new about small kit houses, Aussies have been living in
them for over 100 years. The idea is you can plonk one of these
in a place you can't afford to put one of those other small houses.
Rules and regulations won't make that so easy for many people.
that's the
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
More bullshit when that design has already
been approved with previous sales.
Same with my neighbour's shed kit which is a stock design by an
Australian shed manufacturer.
or it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As
described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels,
Bullshit, that's what makes it temporary
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "Legal
issues" exist regardless.
Not necessarily, plenty of sheds dont need any
planning permission or any council involvement
because of their sized
Only if the council is nice about them. Fact is that mine makes it
hard, and many councils are making it hard for tiny houses too.
Rod Speed wrote
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in >>>>>>> the
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest >>>>>>> problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from >>>>>>> loss of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with >>>> ones with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels.
What some fuckwit pom may or may not have seen is completely irrelevant
The small houses that come on a truck don't have wheels and neither
what the mining industry calls dongas either and neither do granny flats
Note the wheels
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tiny+house&ia=images&iax=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ruumtinyhouses.com%2Fimg%2Fog.png
If they didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
Just like a normal house and you are wrong aboutdemountables too in
many jurisdictions
No anywhere I've lived,
Computer Nerd Kev wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
So they went through all the red tape, it's still a problem, andI saw all the hassle a neighbour had to go through just to put upa >>>>>> modest garden shed behind a house in the middle of farmland.
No planning permission necessary for the quite decent sheds
that two of my mates have chosen to add to their new houses
on normal housing blocks in new subdivisions here in just the
last couple of years and with the vast majority of the new houses
in those new subdivisions either.
None was required for my house, or the house we bought
and are now renting out or for any of my mates who have
most build their houses on new subdivisions either
Planning approval, engineering approval (which was an
expensive red-stamp on the engineering drawings supplied by the
shed kit manufacturer), and two building inspections.
Nothing even remotely like that here or for any
of my mates anywhere else in the country either
And my nephew is a builder was a builder in melburg
and one of my mates has had houses in victoria, all
with sheds
All the red tape is a new thing,
More bullshit, 3 of my mates have just moved in to the
big 4 bedroom houses they got built for them in the
new subdivisions and they all have sheds and virtually
all the other new houses have a shed and you can check
that using google satellite view and google earth
likely more of it for a house rather than a shed not intended to
be lived in (or even have power/water connected in that garden
shed's case).
Maybe they have nicer councils, but the legal problems are stillit wasn't the case a few decades ago but myneighbour's garden shed
was
just a year ago.
So were those 3 mates of mine and the
other houses in those new subdivisions
there in councils that aren't so nice.
Neither shed is on a "normal housing block". Like I said, the middleCertainly put me off getting anything new built.
More fool you.
Requirements vary by council
but I know in the nextdoor council area they wouldn't give planning
permission for one farmer to put up a new shed because it might
upset the native birds - even though there's a wind farm on his
land. It's complete nonsense.
That's not a normal housing block
of farmland. In "normal housing blocks" you'll have neighbours
complaining instead, like in one of the tiny home links I posted but
you're determined to make up excuses to ignore that.
Nothing new about small kit houses, Aussies have been living inAnd pleny will sell you a small house with everything
you need installed which arrives on the back of a truck
which is no bigger than a 20' shipping container
Sure, but then you need it approved
No different to a normal house
They're supposed to be different to a normal house,
Only because of the size
them for over 100 years. The idea is you can plonk one of these
in a place you can't afford to put one of those other small houses.
Rules and regulations won't make that so easy for many people.
Same with my neighbour's shed kit which is a stock design by anthat's the
point. If you've got to go through all the approvals there'll be
much more extra cost an uncertainty than the basic idea of placing
an order and getting a house delivered.
More bullshit when that design has already
been approved with previous sales.
Australian shed manufacturer.
Only if the council is nice about them. Fact is that mine makes itor it's a "temporary structure"
Not if it doesnt have wheels
which you're not allowed to live in for more thana year or two. As >>>>>> described in the links I posted.
Those were talking about houses with WHEELS, fuckwit
It's irrelevent whether it has wheels,
Bullshit, that's what makes it temporary
it's about whether it's approved as a permanentstructure. "Legal
issues" exist regardless.
Not necessarily, plenty of sheds dont need any
planning permission or any council involvement
because of their sized
hard, and many councils are making it hard for tiny houses too.
I had a shed put up that didn't need council permission,
but only because it is less than 5sqM,
and is not considered habitation.
There are plenty of very small granny flats that are
perfectly legal and bed sit flats in blocks of flats so
you don't have to pay for a whole block of land
On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 20:17:42 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
wrote:
On 15/11/2025 10:06 am, Rod Speed wrote:Apparently doesn't apply for Moslems.
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest
problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of >>>>>> jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with ones >>> with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels. If they >>didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
A neighbour of mine embezzled over 2 million from the NSWFB 10 years
ago to buy the house next to me.
He immediately put up 8 foot high steel commercial fence (which I
liked) no one came to tell him to tear it down.
Seems if no one complains you get away with it.
ICAC had a complaint about his embezzlement though.
Seems he knocked off a laptop one of his workmates was after.
His workmate got miffed and called in ICAC
He sold the house for half what he paid for, after being sentenced for
3 years jail (lawyer bills?).
The new neighbors are tops, no troubles. like to keep to themselves.
Fence to them is not a problem either.
So all is fine till you get dobbed in.
Just recently a neighbour became miffed at another and complained
about it being on her footpath/road verge ><https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-family-faces-fine-over-immaculate-lawn/b38e6366-7c60-4e2f-8c82-82da512bd6df>
https://tinyurl.com/353cuvh3
The synthetic grass covers the front and back yards but it is the
footpath patch that has made her local council see red.
In a letter, Gold Coast City Council advised her to rip it up or face
further action.
There are plenty of very small granny flats that are
perfectly legal and bed sit flats in blocks of flats so
you don't have to pay for a whole block of land
What about water supply and dunnies? And power?
People living in car
or vans must have problems even though they park in the middle of
town.
On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 09:11:34 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 20:17:42 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
wrote:
On 15/11/2025 10:06 am, Rod Speed wrote:Apparently doesn't apply for Moslems.
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in the >>>>>>> States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest >>>>>>> problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from loss of >>>>>>> jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with ones >>>> with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels. If they >>>didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
A neighbour of mine embezzled over 2 million from the NSWFB 10 years
ago to buy the house next to me.
He immediately put up 8 foot high steel commercial fence (which I
liked) no one came to tell him to tear it down.
Seems if no one complains you get away with it.
ICAC had a complaint about his embezzlement though.
Seems he knocked off a laptop one of his workmates was after.
His workmate got miffed and called in ICAC
He sold the house for half what he paid for, after being sentenced for
3 years jail (lawyer bills?).
The new neighbors are tops, no troubles. like to keep to themselves.
Fence to them is not a problem either.
So all is fine till you get dobbed in.
Just recently a neighbour became miffed at another and complained
about it being on her footpath/road verge >><https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-family-faces-fine-over-immaculate-lawn/b38e6366-7c60-4e2f-8c82-82da512bd6df>
https://tinyurl.com/353cuvh3
The synthetic grass covers the front and back yards but it is the
footpath patch that has made her local council see red.
In a letter, Gold Coast City Council advised her to rip it up or face >>further action.
The old rule applies. If you don't bother anyone, you can do as you
like.
I have evil designs on a footpath tree which I surreptitiously prune
back every winter. Normally, interfering with a council tree is a
capital offence.
My neighbor & I have put up a 2m paling fence without permission.
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Apparently doesn't apply for Moslems.and kudos to Musk for his initiative. In fact a friend of mine in >>>>>>> the
States is building a tiny house at present. however, the biggest >>>>>>> problem
against affordable housing is the opposition it would face from >>>>>>> loss of
jobs, and that so many rules and regulations exist re housing.
No legal problem with tiny houses
There can be now that they're so popular:
They have always been legal and you are confusing small houses with
ones
with wheels
I've seen a few "Tiny houses", and they have all had wheels. If they
didn't you'd probably need planning permission.
A neighbour of mine embezzled over 2 million from the NSWFB 10 years
ago to buy the house next to me.
He immediately put up 8 foot high steel commercial fence (which I
liked) no one came to tell him to tear it down.
Seems if no one complains you get away with it.
ICAC had a complaint about his embezzlement though.
Seems he knocked off a laptop one of his workmates was after.
His workmate got miffed and called in ICAC
He sold the house for half what he paid for, after being sentenced for
3 years jail (lawyer bills?).
The new neighbors are tops, no troubles. like to keep to themselves.
Fence to them is not a problem either.
So all is fine till you get dobbed in.
Just recently a neighbour became miffed at another and complained
about it being on her footpath/road verge
<https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-family-faces-fine-over-immaculate-lawn/b38e6366-7c60-4e2f-8c82-82da512bd6df>
https://tinyurl.com/353cuvh3
The synthetic grass covers the front and back yards but it is the
footpath patch that has made her local council see red.
In a letter, Gold Coast City Council advised her to rip it up or face
further action.
The old rule applies. If you don't bother anyone, you can do as you
like.
I have evil designs on a footpath tree which I surreptitiously prune
back every winter. Normally, interfering with a council tree is a
capital offence.
My neighbor & I have put up a 2m paling fence without permission.
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