• Re: The pretzel face down in the mud, as always

    From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sun Nov 16 19:58:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 08:26:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid


    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch, user satisfaction, or major controversies).
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 02:38:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid

    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective

    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,

    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,

    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).

    Not with that choice review
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 13:45:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 02:38:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid

    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective

    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,

    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,

    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).

    Not with that choice review

    I don't own the Motorola Choice reviewed does more than I need
    Mines a AU$20, 2021 MOTO G+ probably cheaper now https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/moto-g-power-2021
    the Motorola Moto G Power 2021 is viewed as an excellent choice if
    battery life is the highest priority but falls short in display
    quality, processing power, and software updates. It is best suited for
    casual users who do not need advanced gaming or photography
    capabilities


    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of
    design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade
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    Petzl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 14:59:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid

    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective

    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,

    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,

    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).

    Not with that choice review

    I don't own the Motorola Choice reviewed

    There isnt just one Motorola reviewed

    does more than I need

    Screen resolution is clearly irrelevant when you are
    legally blind and that's the main thing they panned
    with the Motorolas the panned and its true of yours too.

    Mines a AU$20,

    Sfupid typo

    2021 MOTO G+ probably cheaper now https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/moto-g-power-2021
    the Motorola Moto G Power 2021 is viewed as an excellent choice if
    battery life is the highest priority but falls short in display
    quality,

    Which is what Choice panned

    processing power,

    And that means its stupidly slow

    and software updates.

    And that means you will have to replace it sooner

    It is best suited for casual users

    Which isnt you

    who do not need advanced gaming or photography
    capabilities

    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999

    That's not what most iphone buyers buy
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 15:16:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 02:38:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid
    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective
    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,
    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,
    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).
    Not with that choice review

    I don't own the Motorola Choice reviewed does more than I need
    Mines a AU$20, 2021 MOTO G+ probably cheaper now https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/moto-g-power-2021
    the Motorola Moto G Power 2021 is viewed as an excellent choice if
    battery life is the highest priority but falls short in display
    quality, processing power, and software updates. It is best suited for
    casual users who do not need advanced gaming or photography
    capabilities


    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of
    design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade

    I bought my wife an iRon. told her it integrates with the iWash, iCook,
    and iClean functions-a :)
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    Linux Mint 22.2

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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 15:39:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:16:41 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 02:38:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid
    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective
    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,
    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,
    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).
    Not with that choice review

    I don't own the Motorola Choice reviewed, does more than I need
    Mines a AU$200, 2021 MOTO G+ probably cheaper now
    https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/moto-g-power-2021
    the Motorola Moto G Power 2021 is viewed as an excellent choice if
    battery life is the highest priority but falls short in display
    quality, processing power, and software updates. It is best suited for
    casual users who do not need advanced gaming or photography
    capabilities

    fixed typo AU$200 cost in 2021

    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of
    design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade

    Rod snipped this out, go to the end to hear the conclusion where he
    gave it expensive junk status

    I bought my wife an iRon. told her it integrates with the iWash, iCook,
    and iClean functionsa :)

    you have a great mobile phone (Motorola),
    I think it's a bit like stereos where improvements were inaudible to
    the human ear, but a gazzo told you it as better and pushed that logic
    in $$price$$

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.
    However my Moto receives calls clearly and transmits clearly, in my
    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.
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    Petzl
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 16:36:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:16:41 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 02:38:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid
    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective
    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,
    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,
    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).
    Not with that choice review

    I don't own the Motorola Choice reviewed, does more than I need
    Mines a AU$200, 2021 MOTO G+ probably cheaper now
    https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/moto-g-power-2021
    the Motorola Moto G Power 2021 is viewed as an excellent choice if
    battery life is the highest priority but falls short in display
    quality, processing power, and software updates. It is best suited for
    casual users who do not need advanced gaming or photography
    capabilities

    fixed typo AU$200 cost in 2021
    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of
    design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade
    Rod snipped this out, go to the end to hear the conclusion where he
    gave it expensive junk status
    I bought my wife an iRon. told her it integrates with the iWash, iCook,
    and iClean functions-a :)

    you have a great mobile phone (Motorola),
    I think it's a bit like stereos where improvements were inaudible to
    the human ear, but a gazzo told you it as better and pushed that logic
    in $$price$$

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.
    However my Moto receives calls clearly and transmits clearly, in my
    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    my moto has very clear sound, and can be made very loud
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    Linux Mint 22.2

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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 16:53:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:36:50 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    my moto has very clear sound, and can be made very loud

    Yes the Motorola's do have very clear sound
    But I believe Iphone do also, whoever their receive and transmit is
    not as good as the Motorola's, so calls are not that clear.

    My first Motorola I used over 50 years ago in petrochemicals as a
    young lad,Two way radios.
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    Petzl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 17:18:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:39:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:16:41 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 02:38:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid
    Mobile Phone opinions are subjective
    Bullshit with the ones they listed like screen resolution,
    time between batter charges, price and what features
    are available like being able to automatically record all
    incoming and outgoing calls if you want to do that and
    how long the phone OS is updated for

    and often depends on the criteria
    used (e.g., critical reviews at launch,
    Not with that choice review

    user satisfaction,
    Not with that choice review

    or major controversies).
    Not with that choice review

    I don't own the Motorola Choice reviewed, does more than I need
    Mines a AU$200, 2021 MOTO G+ probably cheaper now
    https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/moto-g-power-2021
    the Motorola Moto G Power 2021 is viewed as an excellent choice if
    battery life is the highest priority but falls short in display
    quality, processing power, and software updates. It is best suited for
    casual users who do not need advanced gaming or photography
    capabilities

    fixed typo AU$200 cost in 2021

    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of
    design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade

    Rod snipped this out, go to the end to hear the conclusion where he
    gave it expensive junk status

    Just because some fool claims something...

    No operation like Choice or PCMag says anything like that
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  • From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 17:32:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:36:50 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.
    my moto has very clear sound, and can be made very loud

    Yes the Motorola's do have very clear sound
    But I believe Iphone do also, whoever their receive and transmit is
    not as good as the Motorola's, so calls are not that clear.

    My first Motorola I used over 50 years ago in petrochemicals as a
    young lad,Two way radios.

    I had a Motorola Bag phone soon after they became available here in Oz.
    I think it cost close on $1k at the time. I sold it to a guy who was
    going to PNG.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 18:24:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:18:05 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:


    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of
    design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade

    Rod snipped this out, go to the end to hear the conclusion where he
    gave it expensive junk status

    Just because some fool claims something...

    No operation like Choice or PCMag says anything like that

    Choice or PCMag
    Cash for nice comments

    Reality below https://www.digitaltrends.com/phones/5-worst-iphones-all-time-apple/
    https://tinyurl.com/2trvzyhw
    Here are five of the worst iPhones of all time, and a look at how
    they made this list.
    iPhone 4, iPhone 5c, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone SE (2022),
    While Apple has a lot of successes under its belt, there have been
    plenty of flops
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 18:50:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The review I read on Iphones latest mistake is
    iPhone 16e From AU$999
    https://youtu.be/OGjwCmn_XI0
    The very latest worst iPhone is the iPhone 16e for its combination of >>>>> design flaws, performance issues, and poor software experience in
    2025. Prior models like the iPhone 5c and iPhone 14 also hold
    reputations as some of the worst in Apple's lineup due to value and
    upgrade

    Rod snipped this out, go to the end to hear the conclusion where he
    gave it expensive junk status

    Just because some fool claims something...

    No operation like Choice or PCMag says anything like that

    Choice or PCMag
    Cash for nice comments

    Bullshit with both

    And youtube pays for anything

    Reality below

    Bullshit

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/phones/5-worst-iphones-all-time-apple/
    https://tinyurl.com/2trvzyhw
    Here are five of the worst iPhones of all time, and a look at how
    they made this list.
    iPhone 4, iPhone 5c, iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone SE (2022),

    While Apple has a lot of successes under its belt,

    Funny that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 18:53:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 19:52:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 18:53:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 20:24:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Nov 17 21:22:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 20:24:13 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    More interested in the photos the phone takes
    Not the primary use of a phone, taking and hearing

    Also the Iphone overdoses the brightness on the photos they take
    "Wasshed out" look.

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Not when BOTH networks are online and one can compare the sound and
    microphone against each other.
    The Motorola excel at the sound properties,
    and it's noticeably better.
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 03:22:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    More interested in the photos the phone takes
    Not the primary use of a phone, taking and hearing

    Bullshit if you are talking about Choice

    Also the Iphone overdoses the brightness on the photos they take
    "Wasshed out" look.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Not when BOTH networks are online and one can compare the sound and microphone against each other.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    The Motorola excel at the sound properties,
    and it's noticeably better.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 08:02:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 03:22:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not
    great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    More interested in the photos the phone takes
    Not the primary use of a phone, taking and hearing

    Bullshit if you are talking about Choice

    Choice Magazine headquarters are in Marrickville Sydney NSW
    Still often boils down to opinion, not statistical, pluses and minuses
    *MY* statistical, pluses and minuses has my Moto G+ way ahead of your
    over valued crap
    One of Motorola's phones was made specifically a "Nairobi20"
    (Motorola Moto G20) to work with Kenya's Mobile Towers,
    Does not support 3G or 5G networks. It is a 4G LTE only smartphone

    Also the Iphone overdoses the brightness on the photos they take
    "Wasshed out" look.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"
    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication
    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Not when BOTH networks are online and one can compare the sound and
    microphone against each other.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    The Motorola excel at the sound properties,
    and it's noticeably better.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"
    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication
    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 08:14:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not >>>>>>> great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    More interested in the photos the phone takes
    Not the primary use of a phone, taking and hearing

    Bullshit if you are talking about Choice

    Choice Magazine headquarters are in Marrickville Sydney NSW

    Irrelevant

    Still often boils down to opinion, not statistical, pluses and minuses

    Bullshit with that particulare phone report

    *MY* statistical, pluses and minuses

    Nothing even remotely statistical about your stupid claims
    which arent even about the phone, JUST the network

    has my Moto G+ way ahead of your over valued crap

    More of your mindless bullshit

    One of Motorola's phones was made specifically a "Nairobi20"
    (Motorola Moto G20) to work with Kenya's Mobile Towers,
    Does not support 3G or 5G networks. It is a 4G LTE only smartphone

    All completely irrelevant to what we are discussing

    Also the Iphone overdoses the brightness on the photos they take
    "Wasshed out" look.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"

    More of your mindless bullshit

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Not when BOTH networks are online and one can compare the sound and
    microphone against each other.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    The Motorola excel at the sound properties,
    and it's noticeably better.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"

    More of your mindless bullshit

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 07:26:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:36:50 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    my moto has very clear sound, and can be made very loud

    Yes the Motorola's do have very clear sound
    But I believe Iphone do also, whoever their receive and transmit is
    not as good as the Motorola's

    "Receive and transmit" from everyone's mobile phone seems to be
    rubbish in my area since the damn telcos switched 3G off. I'm not
    sure if that includes any Motorolas though. I know now that
    Telstra's "Blue Tick" is BS - those phones might display more
    (meaningless) bars but they drop out at the same time as others.

    so calls are not that clear.

    Well maybe that's something else. You could hardly describe calls
    dropping out entirely, or going silent for half a minute or so, as
    just "not that clear".

    My first Motorola I used over 50 years ago in petrochemicals as a
    young lad,Two way radios.

    As I've mentioned before that was old Motorola. I didn't even know
    the brand had been dug up from its grave until you started raving
    about them here, but they're actually Lenovo now (Chinese).
    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _#
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Felix@none@not.here to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 10:09:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Felix wrote:
    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:36:50 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.
    my moto has very clear sound, and can be made very loud

    Yes the Motorola's do have very clear sound
    But I believe Iphone do also, whoever their receive and transmit is
    not as good as the Motorola's, so calls are not that clear.

    My first Motorola I used over 50 years ago in petrochemicals as a
    young lad,Two way radios.

    I had a Motorola Bag phone soon after they became available here in
    Oz. I think it cost close on $1k at the time. I sold it to a guy who
    was going to PNG.


    Motos are using AI in their phones now

    <https://www.motorola.com/au/en/p/phones/motorola-edge/60-pro/pmipmht41mf>
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 13:15:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 18 Nov 2025 07:26:47 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
    Kev) wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:36:50 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
    area, Neighbours impressed.
    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    my moto has very clear sound, and can be made very loud

    Yes the Motorola's do have very clear sound
    But I believe Iphone do also, whoever their receive and transmit is
    not as good as the Motorola's

    "Receive and transmit" from everyone's mobile phone seems to be
    rubbish in my area since the damn telcos switched 3G off. I'm not
    sure if that includes any Motorolas though. I know now that
    Telstra's "Blue Tick" is BS - those phones might display more
    (meaningless) bars but they drop out at the same time as others.

    so calls are not that clear.

    Well maybe that's something else. You could hardly describe calls
    dropping out entirely, or going silent for half a minute or so, as
    just "not that clear".

    My first Motorola I used over 50 years ago in petrochemicals as a
    young lad,Two way radios.

    As I've mentioned before that was old Motorola. I didn't even know
    the brand had been dug up from its grave until you started raving
    about them here, but they're actually Lenovo now (Chinese).

    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz
    Lenovo Goes All In With DeepSeek AI For Notebooks & Motorola
    Smartphones

    Made in India
    Seems their prices are going higher also
    Seem to be emphasizing on photographs
    Don't know about the now quality?

    AU$790 from Amazon <https://www.amazon.com.au/Motorola-Edge-60-Pro-Smartphone/dp/B0F6XNQ1DG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=29ZXSAFPHM4Q3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5logoMd6lF0v6Q5SJiqIrNL0iH1iFoqshJwZkvekqqLN49sq8tdvE0AeI_j0kGC-MH9StFmAgPRoUCZodG9VUO2VoTaD1vKrWiF59zdH_uYWyvAcZKDoZlFi2Q_nXGFjyRphIWUc2fVFprmM22F6Jbx6ncQWeDsEYsTGCt75zZJRhCw13X5aNtPggbkQVnQxsiiL5F_9Nc4iGxLotPDFaH9rRlnk0cgTuKeBeM8yBgU42Quq-7tR92M_iTgkJaJ3C3unqMvFBePB0Ppc6hEO1IQYCz-6cTPUrE-CXAuzG4c.mpCJHMhT47PWZX95I5wTL9Oo4VcO3MHwlxAO6uLDVjY&dib_tag=se&keywords=Motorola+Edge+60+Pro+5G&qid=1763431446&sprefix=motorola+edge+60+pro+5g%2Caps%2C227&sr=8-2>
    https://tinyurl.com/yyswmvbx
    Motorola Edge 60 Pro Dual-SIM 512GB ROM + 12GB RAM (GSM Only | No
    CDMA) Factory Unlocked 5G Smartphone (Pantone Shadow) - International
    Version
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 13:19:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 08:14:59 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for
    ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not >>>>>>>> great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre
    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    More interested in the photos the phone takes
    Not the primary use of a phone, taking and hearing

    Bullshit if you are talking about Choice

    Choice Magazine headquarters are in Marrickville Sydney NSW

    Irrelevant

    Still often boils down to opinion, not statistical, pluses and minuses

    Bullshit with that particulare phone report

    *MY* statistical, pluses and minuses

    Nothing even remotely statistical about your stupid claims
    which arent even about the phone, JUST the network

    has my Moto G+ way ahead of your over valued crap

    More of your mindless bullshit

    One of Motorola's phones was made specifically a "Nairobi20"
    (Motorola Moto G20) to work with Kenya's Mobile Towers,
    Does not support 3G or 5G networks. It is a 4G LTE only smartphone

    All completely irrelevant to what we are discussing

    Also the Iphone overdoses the brightness on the photos they take
    "Wasshed out" look.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"

    More of your mindless bullshit

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Not when BOTH networks are online and one can compare the sound and
    microphone against each other.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    The Motorola excel at the sound properties,
    and it's noticeably better.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"

    More of your mindless bullshit

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes
    even clearer
    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra
    was even much more terrible
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 15:12:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    All my neighbours have Iphones supplied by who they work for >>>>>>>>> ALL have problems hearing calls, admittedly reception here is not >>>>>>>>> great.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Occasionally meet neighbors in shopping centre

    Yes I'm on Optus if Telstra is off I lend them mine the Moto is
    clearer sound. Last time it was my Chemist using different tower.

    How odd that Choice can't see that

    More interested in the photos the phone takes
    Not the primary use of a phone, taking and hearing

    Bullshit if you are talking about Choice

    Still often boils down to opinion, not statistical, pluses and minuses

    Bullshit with that particular phone report

    *MY* statistical, pluses and minuses

    Nothing even remotely statistical about your stupid claims
    which arent even about the phone, JUST the network

    has my Moto G+ way ahead of your over valued crap

    More of your mindless bullshit

    Also the Iphone overdoses the brightness on the photos they take
    "Wasshed out" look.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"

    More of your mindless bullshit

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    However my Moto receives calls clearly and
    < transmits clearly, in my area, Neighbours impressed.

    You havent tried it on their network, fuckwit

    the Iphones are repeat that please, the other end saying the >>>>>>>>> same.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Not when BOTH networks are online and one can compare the sound and
    microphone against each other.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    The Motorola excel at the sound properties,
    and it's noticeably better.

    How odd that Choice can't see that either

    "They" see what is relevant to "them"

    More of your mindless bullshit

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes
    even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra
    was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 17:21:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 15:12:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes
    even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy
    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit
    scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception.
    With Optus a clean clear connection.

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra
    was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their
    Iphones couldn't

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra
    network
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Tue Nov 18 19:13:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes
    even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception.
    With Optus a clean clear connection.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra
    was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their
    Iphones couldn't

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra
    network

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 10:39:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 19:13:15 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as >>>>>> well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes
    even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit
    scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception.
    With Optus a clean clear connection.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra
    was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their
    Iphones couldn't

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra
    network

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Sounds like you are pissed because I have a much better phone than you
    do, and my Neighbors can verify this, and have

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the
    same specs <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 12:26:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as >>>>>>> well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes
    even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit
    scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception.
    With Optus a clean clear connection.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra >>>>> was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their
    Iphones couldn't

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra
    network

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Sounds like you are pissed

    Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid because
    I have never been pissed about your ignorant stupiditys

    because I have a much better phone than you do,

    Just another of your pig ignorant fantasys

    and my Neighbors can verify this, and have

    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the
    same specs <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 12:32:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 12:26:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, as >>>>>>>> well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes >>>>>> even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit
    scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception.
    With Optus a clean clear connection.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on Telstra >>>>>> was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their
    Iphones couldn't

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra
    network

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Sounds like you are pissed

    Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid because
    I have never been pissed about your ignorant stupiditys

    because I have a much better phone than you do,

    Just another of your pig ignorant fantasys

    and my Neighbors can verify this, and have

    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good
    They have with mine, many times

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the
    same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good
    They have with mine, many times
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 15:22:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, >>>>>>>>> as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes >>>>>>> even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit
    scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception. >>>>> With Optus a clean clear connection.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on
    Telstra
    was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their
    Iphones couldn't

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra
    network

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Sounds like you are pissed

    Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid because
    I have never been pissed about your ignorant stupiditys

    because I have a much better phone than you do,

    Just another of your pig ignorant fantasys

    and my Neighbors can verify this, and have

    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the
    same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 17:12:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 15:22:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:


    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    Felix, Mighty Mouse, Jonz, ME, and a Yank
    you and Iphone zero

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the
    same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 17:34:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    Felix, Mighty Mouse, Jonz, ME, and a Yank

    All fools that dont have a fucking clue

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the >>>>> same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Wed Nov 19 17:36:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    Felix, Mighty Mouse, Jonz, ME, and a Yank

    All fools that dont have a fucking clue

    Who have never used an iphone

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have >>>>>> AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty >>>>>> the
    same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Nov 20 08:20:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 17:36:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    Felix, Mighty Mouse, Jonz, ME, and a Yank

    All fools that dont have a fucking clue

    Who have never used an iphone

    They own a Motorola and like it, don't know if they have used a Iphone
    or not. neither do you.
    I for one most certainly have used a Iphone when I were working and
    with Telstra.
    I personally find my Motorola superior to the Iphone are 20% of the
    cost of a Iphone equivalent

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have >>>>>>> AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty >>>>>>> the
    same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned

    That just their opinion possibly cash for comment one.
    Not that many subscribe to Choice Magazine, doubt if you do
    (200,000 out of a 30,000,000 ='s, 0.7% of population)
    The free version only gives partial reports not full ones, they target
    the cheaper Moto to a Apple iPhone Air AU$1800,
    To Motorola Moto G04 AU$180 <https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid>
    https://tinyurl.com/4nxs5dwz
    And you have what model Iphone (Iphone Goofball probably)
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Nov 20 08:44:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 17:36:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    Quick Rod before you are too late!!! <https://www.harveynorman.com.au/motorola-edge-50-neo-5g-256gb.html>
    Ebay <https://www.ebay.com/shop/motorola-edge-50?_nkw=motorola+edge+50&_sop=15>
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Nov 20 09:59:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    Felix, Mighty Mouse, Jonz, ME, and a Yank

    All fools that dont have a fucking clue

    Who have never used an iphone

    They own a Motorola and like it, don't know if they have used a Iphone
    or not. neither do you.

    They never said they had an iphone and
    liked the replacement motp much better

    And even if they did, and they didnt, they are irrelevant
    given Choice panned the motos on the specs and
    performance inthe full report and said not buy it

    I for one most certainly have used a Iphone when I were working and
    with Telstra.

    Nothing even remotely like a current phone

    I personally find my Motorola superior to the Iphone are 20% of the
    cost of a Iphone equivalent

    Bullshit on the price as you link proves

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have >>>>>>>> AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty >>>>>>>> the same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned

    That just their opinion

    Nope, thats what the specs say

    possibly cash for comment one.

    Choice does not pay cash for comment

    Not that many subscribe to Choice Magazine,

    Irrelevant

    doubt if you do (200,000 out of a 30,000,000 ='s, 0.7% of population)

    That number is straight from your arse as always

    The free version only gives partial reports not full ones,

    Pity about what the full report says about the motos

    they target the cheaper Moto to a Apple iPhone Air AU$1800,

    The free report which lists phones to avoid does nothing
    of the sort and you are lying about iphone price too.

    To Motorola Moto G04 AU$180 <https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/phones/mobile-phones/articles/smartphones-to-avoid>

    That's not the current price of yours that you posted a link to

    https://tinyurl.com/4nxs5dwz
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Nov 20 10:03:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    Quick Rod before you are too late!!!

    Not that stupid and my iphone works perfectly

    <https://www.harveynorman.com.au/motorola-edge-50-neo-5g-256gb.html>

    Nothing like your stupid price you wave around

    Ebay <https://www.ebay.com/shop/motorola-edge-50?_nkw=motorola+edge+50&_sop=15>

    That's a stolen phone and the seller has decided its a steaming turd
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.computers on Thu Nov 20 16:28:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 15:22:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    For me it was ability to pick-up a weak mobile tower at my home, >>>>>>>>>> as
    well as price. don't use it for photos just communication

    Which a Iphone does not do well in my neighborhood!

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I've tried both Telstra and optus/Amaysim optus was cheaper and yes >>>>>>>> even clearer

    Irrelevant to what in iphone does on the optus network there

    All my neighbors use Iphones connected to Telstra the signal is dodgy >>>
    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Mine could connect to Telstra better than they could, but was a bit >>>>>> scratchy

    As I keep telling you I tried Testra out as well not great reception. >>>>>> With Optus a clean clear connection.

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    But the Iphone reception on Telstra same time as me being on >>>>>>>> Telstra
    was even much more terrible

    That's the network there, fuckwit

    not said it wasn't, but my Moto could connect to Telstra when their >>>>>> Iphones couldn't

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    I tried Optus and no problems a lot clearer than the local Telstra >>>>>> network

    That's the network not the phone, fuckwit

    Sounds like you are pissed

    Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid because
    I have never been pissed about your ignorant stupiditys

    because I have a much better phone than you do,

    Just another of your pig ignorant fantasys

    and my Neighbors can verify this, and have

    Bullshit they can and never have and the full Choice test proves
    that that claim is just another of your pig ignorant lies

    haven't seen anyone in this group say your phone is good

    This group is irrelevant

    They have with mine, many times

    Just the one individual who has one, fuckwit

    This is touted as a new Moto, specs are the same as the one I have
    AU$799 a lot more than the AU$200 I paid for and they seem exacty the
    same specs
    <https://www.channelnews.com.au/lenovo-goes-all-in-with-deepseek-for-notebooks-motorola-smartphones/>
    https://tinyurl.com/4cuftppz

    So its just as fucked as the ones Choice panned
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