• YouTube subscribes (was: Re: YouTube : "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot"??)

    From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Aug 25 16:16:46 2025
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    On 2025/8/25 13:3:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/24 18:57:59, Marion wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 17:50:47 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote :

    ...

    That means when I subscribe to a YouTube channel, the YouTube channel
    creator receives no up-ticks from me in his all-important reputation.

    No. I guess if you subscribing makes it show you more of his clips, he'd
    get more of any ad.s you see, but as you don't see any, ...

    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do; I _presume_ it means it
    _does_ give you more from that channel. (Maybe even it gives you _every_
    _new_ post from that channel.) I've not seen it actually say anywhere,
    though. (Though I haven't really looked.)>

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    ...


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Aug 25 20:24:53 2025
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    On 2025-08-25 17:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 13:3:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/24 18:57:59, Marion wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 17:50:47 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote :

    ...

    That means when I subscribe to a YouTube channel, the YouTube channel
    creator receives no up-ticks from me in his all-important reputation.

    No. I guess if you subscribing makes it show you more of his clips, he'd >>> get more of any ad.s you see, but as you don't see any, ...

    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do; I _presume_ it means it
    _does_ give you more from that channel. (Maybe even it gives you _every_ >>> _new_ post from that channel.) I've not seen it actually say anywhere,
    though. (Though I haven't really looked.)>

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    ...


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    I get notifications in my phone, for example.

    On my computer, the loged in session gets messages under the bell icon
    (top right).
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Aug 25 21:47:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.windows7.general

    On 2025/8/25 19:24:53, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 17:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 13:3:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    []

    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do; I _presume_ it means it >>>> _does_ give you more from that channel. (Maybe even it gives you _every_ >>>> _new_ post from that channel.) I've not seen it actually say anywhere, >>>> though. (Though I haven't really looked.)>

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    ...


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    I get notifications in my phone, for example.

    Ah. I'm accessing via web browser (on computer) only.>
    On my computer, the loged in session gets messages under the bell icon
    (top right).

    Is that the same place you get notificatinns that someone has posted a
    folloeup comment to any comments you make? If so, I get such
    notifications, but have never seen a notification of a new video.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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    subject and he is mistaking the expert's slow methodical thought for a politician's prevarication or a layman's ignorance.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,comp.internet.services.video.youtube on Tue Aug 26 04:32:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.windows7.general

    On 2025/8/26 0:4:48, Schugo wrote:
    On 25.08.2025 22:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 19:24:53, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 17:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 13:3:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    []

    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do; I _presume_ it means it >>>>>> _does_ give you more from that channel. (Maybe even it gives you _every_ >>>>>> _new_ post from that channel.) I've not seen it actually say anywhere, >>>>>> though. (Though I haven't really looked.)>

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    ...


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    I get notifications in my phone, for example.

    Ah. I'm accessing via web browser (on computer) only.>
    On my computer, the loged in session gets messages under the bell icon
    (top right).

    Is that the same place you get notificatinns that someone has posted a>> folloeup comment to any comments you make? If so, I get such
    notifications, but have never seen a notification of a new video.


    just wondering WTF has the YT homepage to do with Windows or Firefox???> ciao...

    Good point; appropriate 'group added, and followups set.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general on Tue Aug 26 19:17:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.windows7.general

    On 26/08/2025 9:04 am, Schugo wrote:
    On 25.08.2025 22:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 19:24:53, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 17:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 13:3:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    []

    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do; I _presume_ it means it >>>>>> _does_ give you more from that channel. (Maybe even it gives you _every_ >>>>>> _new_ post from that channel.) I've not seen it actually say anywhere, >>>>>> though. (Though I haven't really looked.)>

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    ...

    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    I get notifications in my phone, for example.

    Ah. I'm accessing via web browser (on computer) only.>
    On my computer, the loged in session gets messages under the bell icon
    (top right).

    Is that the same place you get notificatinns that someone has posted a
    folloeup comment to any comments you make? If so, I get such
    notifications, but have never seen a notification of a new video.

    just wondering WTF has the YT homepage to do with Windows or Firefox???

    ciao...

    What are you watching the YouTube homepage with. Firefox on a Windows
    system, maybe?? Or should that be SeaMonkey (spoofing FF) on Windows??
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    Daniel70
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Aug 26 11:33:09 2025
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    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do;

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    it isn't subscribing itself that does that, it is using the notification
    bell that does that. I subscribe to many channels, but get
    notifications from none of them, my phone would never shut-up if I
    allowed notify from youtube.
    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    It's a notification in the android app, maybe also push notify from the browser client?

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Aug 26 14:54:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.windows7.general

    On 2025-08-25 22:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 19:24:53, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 17:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/8/25 13:3:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-25 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    []

    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do; I _presume_ it means it >>>>> _does_ give you more from that channel. (Maybe even it gives you _every_ >>>>> _new_ post from that channel.) I've not seen it actually say anywhere, >>>>> though. (Though I haven't really looked.)>

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    ...


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    I get notifications in my phone, for example.

    Ah. I'm accessing via web browser (on computer) only.>

    Me too, but if I do login, the account is the same one as in the phone.


    On my computer, the loged in session gets messages under the bell icon
    (top right).

    Is that the same place you get notificatinns that someone has posted a folloeup comment to any comments you make? If so, I get such
    notifications, but have never seen a notification of a new video.

    I wouldn't know. I have not seen follow up to comments, because I
    comment very sparely, maybe twice, so I don't get answers.
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Aug 26 15:09:58 2025
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    On 2025-08-26 12:33, Andy Burns wrote:
    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do;

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    it isn't subscribing itself that does that, it is using the notification bell that does that.-a I subscribe to many channels, but get
    notifications from none of them, my phone would never shut-up if I
    allowed notify from youtube.

    You can subscribe without notifications?

    I'm looking at a subscribed channel. I see a droplist:

    black bell icon All
    white bell icon Personalized (check)
    crossed out bell None
    crossed out person Unsubscribe

    I see I have personalized notifications, but I forget how to see what
    that means exactly. In the notification bell itself (top right) there is
    a cogwheel.

    Desktop notifications Get notifications in this browser No
    even if not watching youtube
    (I assume this means push notifications)
    prefs Subscriptions Yes
    reccomended videos No

    more entries.


    I have very few subscribed channels, and some of them have no activity,
    so my phone doesn't bother me much with them.


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    It's a notification in the android app, maybe also push notify from the browser client?

    Ah, yes. I have disabled the later.
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Aug 26 17:02:37 2025
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    "Carlos E.R." wrote:

    I see I have personalized notifications, but I forget how to see what
    that means exactly. In the notification bell itself (top right) there is
    a cogwheel.


    <https://www.youtube.com/account_notifications>

    I have every slider there set to "off"

    On a per-channel basis, my notification setting is also "personalised"
    but that is effectively the same as "off" for me.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.software.firefox,comp.internet.services.video.youtube on Tue Aug 26 19:56:03 2025
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    On 2025/8/26 14:9:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-08-26 12:33, Andy Burns wrote:
    I've often wondered what subscribing _does_ do;

    You get told when there is a new video on that channel.

    it isn't subscribing itself that does that, it is using the notification
    bell that does that.-a I subscribe to many channels, but get
    notifications from none of them, my phone would never shut-up if I
    allowed notify from youtube.

    I'm only on computer/browser, not 'phone.>
    You can subscribe without notifications?

    I'm looking at a subscribed channel. I see a droplist:

    black bell icon All
    white bell icon Personalized (check)
    crossed out bell None
    crossed out person Unsubscribe

    And the "white bell icon Personalised" is the one it defaults to if you subscribe from the unsubscribed state.>
    I see I have personalized notifications, but I forget how to see what
    that means exactly. In the notification bell itself (top right) there is
    a cogwheel.

    Desktop notifications Get notifications in this browser No
    even if not watching youtube
    (I assume this means push notifications)

    I don't know what it would mean for me; presumably popups in the
    browser. I have that set to off, too.

    I get the impression that _these_ settings are global, i. e. not channel-specific.

    prefs Subscriptions Yes
    "Notify me about activity from the channels that I'm subscribed to"
    I have no, which presumably is why I've never got a notification of a
    new upload. (Though I don't know if it would tell me about other
    "activity" - I wasn't sure what other activity it might tell me about,
    which is probably why I set [or left, I can't remember] it to off.)

    reccomended videos No
    "Notify me of videos that I might like based on what I watch"
    For me, that is on: however, I don't think I've ever had such a
    _notification_. (And I'm subscribed to a lot of channels, and watch a
    lot of YouTube, so would expect the algorithm to think I might like lots
    of videos.)>
    more entries.

    Activity on my channel (on), Activity on my comments (off), Mentions
    (on), Others reusing my content (on), promotional content and offerings
    (on).

    I have been assuming that these settings follow the common convention of
    blob to the right (which it colours blue) means on/yes, and blob to the
    left (which it colours black) means off/no. However, given that the
    _only_ notifications I can remember getting for some time - and plenty
    of those - have been when someone likes, or posts a followup to, my
    comments, I am wondering if these are the other way round? That would
    certainly explain why I'm only getting activity-on-my-comments
    notifications, though not why I'm _not_ getting new-upload ones.


    I have very few subscribed channels, and some of them have no activity,
    so my phone doesn't bother me much with them.


    How do I get "told"? I certainly don't get emails.

    It's a notification in the android app, maybe also push notify from the
    browser client?

    Ah, yes. I have disabled the later.

    I can't remember when I last got an email "from" YouTube. I see towards
    the bottom of the above Notifications page, there's a drop-down headed Unsubscribed emails, which if I drop it has only one entry, "Someone
    leaves a comment on my video or responds to my comments on a video",
    with a Resume option, presumably meaning I have "Unsubscribed" it, which
    would account for my not getting emails. (Quite why it bothers with a
    drop-down list for only one entry I don't know; I guess under some circumstances there could be more than just the one entry.)
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