Listening to a religious program on BBC Radio this morning, I heard the >(surprising to me) fact that William Tyndale invented the word
'atonement' while translating the Bible into English. His intent was to >pronounce the word as three separate words, in order to convey the true >meaning of his invented word.
'At-one-ment', meaning the condition of being at one with God, was how
he intended it. (Confirmed by Etymonline.com.) The subsequent meaning
of reconciliation came some time later.
In article <mrv43dFqcf1U1@mid.individual.net>,
occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
Listening to a religious program on BBC Radio this morning, I heard the
(surprising to me) fact that William Tyndale invented the word
'atonement' while translating the Bible into English. His intent was to
pronounce the word as three separate words, in order to convey the true
meaning of his invented word.
'At-one-ment', meaning the condition of being at one with God, was how
he intended it. (Confirmed by Etymonline.com.) The subsequent meaning
of reconciliation came some time later.
The OED has:
1513 Of which..none of vs hath any thing the lesse nede, for the late
made attonemente.
T. More, Hist. Edward V in Wks. 40
which is before Tyndale's bible. It also has "onement" from c1395.
'At-one-ment', meaning the condition of being at one with God, was how
he intended it. (Confirmed by Etymonline.com.) The subsequent meaning
of reconciliation came some time later.
Den 04.01.2026 kl. 13.17 skrev occam:
'At-one-ment', meaning the condition of being at one with God, was how
he intended it.-a (Confirmed by Etymonline.com.) The subsequent meaning
of reconciliation came some time later.
Dalai Lama is standing in line at a pizza joint.
First customer: "I'd like a pizza with ham, schrimp and pineapple."
Second customer: "Can I get one with tomato, maize and minced meat?"
Dalai Lama: "Can you make me one with everything?"
Listening to a religious program on BBC Radio this morning, I heard the >(surprising to me) fact that William Tyndale invented the word
'atonement' while translating the Bible into English. His intent was to >pronounce the word as three separate words, in order to convey the true >meaning of his invented word.
'At-one-ment', meaning the condition of being at one with God, was how
he intended it. (Confirmed by Etymonline.com.) The subsequent meaning
of reconciliation came some time later.
Dalai Lama is standing in line at a pizza joint.
First customer: "I'd like a pizza with ham, schrimp and pineapple."
Second customer: "Can I get one with tomato, maize and minced meat?"
Dalai Lama: "Can you make me one with everything?"
That's a made up joke.
I have seen a video (on YouTube) where a
journalist tells that joke to the real Dalai Lama. He does not get the joke.
Den 04.01.2026 kl. 17.37 skrev occam:
Dalai Lama is standing in line at a pizza joint.
First customer: "I'd like a pizza with ham, schrimp and pineapple."
Second customer: "Can I get one with tomato, maize and minced meat?"
Dalai Lama: "Can you make me one with everything?"
That's a made up joke.
And all other jokes are genuine?
I have seen a video (on YouTube) where a
journalist tells that joke to the real Dalai Lama. He does not get the
joke.
Would a nun understand a nun-joke?
Den 04.01.2026 kl. 17.37 skrev occam:
[...]
Dalai Lama is standing in line at a pizza joint.
First customer: "I'd like a pizza with ham, schrimp and pineapple."
Second customer: "Can I get one with tomato, maize and minced meat?"
Dalai Lama: "Can you make me one with everything?"
That's a made up joke.
And all other jokes are genuine?
I have seen a video (on YouTube) where a
journalist tells that joke to the real Dalai Lama. He does not get the
joke.
Would a nun understand a nun-joke?
Le 05/01/2026 a 05:01, Bertel Lund Hansen a ocrit :
Den 04.01.2026 kl. 17.37 skrev occam:
[...]
Dalai Lama is standing in line at a pizza joint.
First customer: "I'd like a pizza with ham, schrimp and pineapple."
Second customer: "Can I get one with tomato, maize and minced meat?"
Dalai Lama: "Can you make me one with everything?"
That's a made up joke.
And all other jokes are genuine?
Good point. All jokes are made up.
I have seen a video (on YouTube) where a
journalist tells that joke to the real Dalai Lama. He does not get the
joke.
Would a nun understand a nun-joke?
Possibly. Would an imam understand an imam joke? Would a rabbi
understand a rabbi joke? The latter seems quite likely. Rabbi Blue did.
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38365805> :
"... a regular on BBC Radio 4's Thought for the Day... Lionel brought
his Jewish view of the world to a mass audience with signature warmth
and wry self-deprecating humour."
Hibou says:
Possibly. Would an imam understand an imam joke? Would a rabbi
understand a rabbi joke? The latter seems quite likely. Rabbi Blue did.
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38365805> :
"... a regular on BBC Radio 4's Thought for the Day... Lionel brought
his Jewish view of the world to a mass audience with signature warmth
and wry self-deprecating humour."
I miss Lionel Blue :-)
Le 05/01/2026 |a 11:48, Janet a |-crit :
Hibou says:
Possibly. Would an imam understand an imam joke? Would a rabbi
understand a rabbi joke? The latter seems quite likely. Rabbi Blue did.
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38365805> :
"... a regular on BBC Radio 4's Thought for the Day... Lionel brought
his Jewish view of the world to a mass audience with signature warmth
and wry self-deprecating humour."
I miss Lionel Blue :-)
I no longer hear 'Thought for the Day'; either it's changed its time or
I have - but Lionel Blue was a useful reminder that one can admire
people while disagreeing with their beliefs.
Le 05/01/2026 |a 11:48, Janet a |-crit :
Hibou says:
Possibly. Would an imam understand an imam joke? Would a rabbi
understand a rabbi joke? The latter seems quite likely. Rabbi Blue did.
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38365805> :
"... a regular on BBC Radio 4's Thought for the Day... Lionel brought
his Jewish view of the world to a mass audience with signature warmth
and wry self-deprecating humour."
I miss Lionel Blue :-)
I no longer hear 'Thought for the Day'; either it's changed its time or
I have - but Lionel Blue was a useful reminder that one can admire
people while disagreeing with their beliefs.
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