• Word Police: multiple

    From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to alt.usage.english on Thu Feb 19 15:12:04 2026
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    "As we said in Sept/Oct 2013, this is a raging
    fad word. It's even worse now. Why? TV news?
    Magazines? Books? NO ONE says
    "some" or "many" or "a number of" or "a
    few" or "more than one" or "several". Everyone
    falls back on "multiple". People think in
    cliches. Most people have a pitifully small
    working vocabulary. They don't know many
    words; they have to overuse the few they do
    know -- stretch their meaning. And of course
    "multiple" is vague and inexact to begin
    with, so it covers a lack of knowledge. In
    other words, like most overused words, it is
    a sign of laziness. People who use it are lazy
    writers and lazy thinkers. They also probably
    think long words are more impressive than
    short words, which is not the case".

    -- from American Record Guide March/April 2026

    I'll have to counter part of this argument
    as Internal Affairs to his Word Police; the editor
    uses absolute statements, which is cliched and
    misleading. Consider possible reviews of his
    statement:

    NO ONE cares about this.

    EVERYONE cares about this.



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  • From John Dunlop@dunlop.john@ymail.com to alt.usage.english on Fri Feb 20 13:33:44 2026
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    Pluted Pup:

    "As we said in Sept/Oct 2013, this is a raging
    fad word. It's even worse now. Why? TV news?
    Magazines? Books? NO ONE says
    "some" or "many" or "a number of" or "a
    few" or "more than one" or "several". Everyone
    falls back on "multiple". People think in
    cliches. Most people have a pitifully small
    working vocabulary. They don't know many
    words; they have to overuse the few they do
    know -- stretch their meaning. And of course
    "multiple" is vague and inexact to begin
    with, so it covers a lack of knowledge. In
    other words, like most overused words, it is
    a sign of laziness. People who use it are lazy
    writers and lazy thinkers. They also probably
    think long words are more impressive than
    short words, which is not the case".

    -- from American Record Guide March/April 2026

    That usage has become well established over the last few decades.
    Resistance is futile.[1]

    A few months ago, I posted the linguist Geoff Lindsey's take on it:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5DCQtz-RaE>

    I'm not convinced by his argument that "multiple" fills a gap in the
    language, though. It seems to me that "more than one" (same number of syllables) does just fine in the examples he gives at 13:38:

    <https://youtu.be/D5DCQtz-RaE?t=815>

    I'll have to counter part of this argument
    as Internal Affairs to his Word Police; the editor
    uses absolute statements, which is cliched and
    misleading. Consider possible reviews of his
    statement:

    NO ONE cares about this.

    EVERYONE cares about this.

    Hyperbole, I'd say, rather than true universals. I don't think they're intended to be taken literally.

    [1] The Borg are of course well known for not being multiple.
    --
    John
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Fri Feb 20 15:34:22 2026
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    On 20/02/2026 14:33, John Dunlop wrote:
    Pluted Pup:

    "As we said in Sept/Oct 2013, this is a raging
    fad word.-a It's even worse now.-a Why? TV news?
    Magazines? Books?-a NO ONE says
    "some" or "many" or "a number of" or "a
    few" or "more than one" or "several".-a Everyone
    falls back on "multiple".-a People think in
    cliches.-a Most people have a pitifully small
    working vocabulary.-a They don't know many
    words; they have to overuse the few they do
    know -- stretch their meaning.-a And of course
    "multiple" is vague and inexact to begin
    with, so it covers a lack of knowledge.-a In
    other words, like most overused words, it is
    a sign of laziness.-a People who use it are lazy
    writers and lazy thinkers.-a They also probably
    think long words are more impressive than
    short words, which is not the case".

    -a-a-a-a-a-a -- from American Record Guide March/April 2026

    That usage has become well established over the last few decades.
    Resistance is futile.[1]

    A few months ago, I posted the linguist Geoff Lindsey's take on it:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5DCQtz-RaE>

    I'm not convinced by his argument that "multiple" fills a gap in the language, though. It seems to me that "more than one" (same number of syllables) does just fine in the examples he gives at 13:38:

    Except "more than one" would not work for the current adopted motto of Luxembourg: "Multiplicity"

    <https://www.vdl.lu/en/city/a-glance/multiplicity>

    I agree it is a bit strained, but you get used to it after a few years.




    [1] The Borg are of course well known for not being multiple.


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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Fri Feb 20 14:46:05 2026
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    Le 20/02/2026 |a 14:34, occam a |-crit :

    Except "more than one" would not work for the current adopted motto of Luxembourg: "Multiplicity"

    <https://www.vdl.lu/en/city/a-glance/multiplicity>

    I agree it is a bit strained, but you get used to it after a few years.


    I like it. It's duplicity-plus.

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to alt.usage.english on Fri Feb 20 16:15:07 2026
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    John Dunlop <dunlop.john@ymail.com> wrote:

    [...]
    I'm not convinced by his argument that "multiple" fills a gap in the language,

    It is used as a noun in the telephone industry..
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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