• What do you make of this photo?

    From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Nov 23 01:09:29 2025
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    This is apparently a recent photo of Rizo, Sophie, Sophi, and Savannah.
    The other two people are Rizo's girlfriend and Savannah's boyfriend.
    Sophie looks amazing. Sophi looks like she's still in love with
    Savannah. I wonder if this could be an indication that Sophie goes deep
    into the game? It would be a real shocker if she, Sophi, and Savannah
    were F3, and Rizo got taken out by fire.

    https://x.com/_FromTheIsland/status/1992297100005060987
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Nov 23 10:47:33 2025
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    On 11/23/2025 3:09 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    This is apparently a recent photo of Rizo, Sophie, Sophi, and Savannah.
    The other two people are Rizo's girlfriend and Savannah's boyfriend.
    Sophie looks amazing. Sophi looks like she's still in love with
    Savannah. I wonder if this could be an indication that Sophie goes deep
    into the game? It would be a real shocker if she, Sophi, and Savannah
    were F3, and Rizo got taken out by fire.

    https://x.com/_FromTheIsland/status/1992297100005060987


    That's amazingly interesting. It does suggest Sophie is now part of the Savannah-Rizo-Soph alliance (does that alliance have a name?), and it
    could foreshadow them ramrodding to final four. And if you're right in guessing that Rizo is fired out at F4, it would be the first all female
    final three since S29 when Natalie orchestrated bringing Jaclyn and
    Missy to F3. I think the only prior time there were three women in the
    finals was Kim, Chelsea and Sabrina in S24. There was also an
    all-female final two season (S4) with Vee and Neleh where the third
    place finisher, Kathy, was also female.

    But I have been presuming, probably wrongly, that Rizo and Savannah go
    to the finals together with a goat like Kristina who keeps hanging
    around because nobody cares about her (she can't win immunities and
    she's not gonna win the game). My guess was Kristina played her idol at
    F5 and then loses F4 immunity but is carried to the finals by F4 winner.
    But I guess it is possible Soph finds out about the idol and steals it.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Nov 23 14:07:55 2025
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    On 11/23/2025 8:47 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 11/23/2025 3:09 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    This is apparently a recent photo of Rizo, Sophie, Sophi, and
    Savannah. The other two people are Rizo's girlfriend and Savannah's
    boyfriend. Sophie looks amazing. Sophi looks like she's still in love
    with Savannah. I wonder if this could be an indication that Sophie
    goes deep into the game? It would be a real shocker if she, Sophi, and
    Savannah were F3, and Rizo got taken out by fire.

    https://x.com/_FromTheIsland/status/1992297100005060987


    That's amazingly interesting.-a It does suggest Sophie is now part of the Savannah-Rizo-Soph alliance (does that alliance have a name?), and it
    could foreshadow them ramrodding to final four.-a And if you're right in guessing that Rizo is fired out at F4, it would be the first all female final three since S29 when Natalie orchestrated bringing Jaclyn and
    Missy to F3.-a I think the only prior time there were three women in the finals was Kim, Chelsea and Sabrina in S24.-a There was also an all-
    female final two season (S4) with Vee and Neleh where the third place finisher, Kathy, was also female.

    I don't recall Rizo, Sophi, and Savannah mentioning an alliance name.

    My prediction of the three girls at the end and Rizo out at F4 due to
    losing fire, is pure speculation on my part. It's based on Sophie's edit picking up dramatically. She's great at challenges and her strategic
    skills are finally being shown. It also looks like she's going to side
    with Savannah's gang. I can see her making F3 but I don't see her
    winning. She was too invisible early on. When Michele won, despite not
    going to TC until the merge happened, she had some clear winner
    confessionals early on. Sophie had barely any confessionals at all the
    first part of the game.

    As for Rizo, he's not been very good at challenges and I'm guessing he's
    not good at making fire either. I don't think we've seen any of the four
    make fire, so it's possible he loses due to bad luck.

    But I have been presuming, probably wrongly, that Rizo and Savannah go
    to the finals together with a goat like Kristina who keeps hanging
    around because nobody cares about her (she can't win immunities and
    she's not gonna win the game).-a My guess was Kristina played her idol at
    F5 and then loses F4 immunity but is carried to the finals by F4 winner.
    -aBut I guess it is possible Soph finds out about the idol and steals it.

    Kristina definitely has the no-vote F3 vibe about her. However, she's
    not getting a F3 edit. For Kristina to make F3, I think Rizo and
    Savannah would have to stab Sophi in the back. I don't see Savannah
    letting that happen. If Kristina makes F3 she's going to need to win
    something and have a lot of luck. When is the last time they can use
    their SITDs?
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Nov 23 16:38:04 2025
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    On 11/23/2025 4:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 11/23/2025 8:47 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 11/23/2025 3:09 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    This is apparently a recent photo of Rizo, Sophie, Sophi, and
    Savannah. The other two people are Rizo's girlfriend and Savannah's
    boyfriend. Sophie looks amazing. Sophi looks like she's still in love
    with Savannah. I wonder if this could be an indication that Sophie
    goes deep into the game? It would be a real shocker if she, Sophi,
    and Savannah were F3, and Rizo got taken out by fire.

    https://x.com/_FromTheIsland/status/1992297100005060987


    That's amazingly interesting.-a It does suggest Sophie is now part of
    the Savannah-Rizo-Soph alliance (does that alliance have a name?), and
    it could foreshadow them ramrodding to final four.-a And if you're
    right in guessing that Rizo is fired out at F4, it would be the first
    all female final three since S29 when Natalie orchestrated bringing
    Jaclyn and Missy to F3.-a I think the only prior time there were three
    women in the finals was Kim, Chelsea and Sabrina in S24.-a There was
    also an all- female final two season (S4) with Vee and Neleh where the
    third place finisher, Kathy, was also female.

    I don't recall Rizo, Sophi, and Savannah mentioning an alliance name.

    My prediction of the three girls at the end and Rizo out at F4 due to
    losing fire, is pure speculation on my part. It's based on Sophie's edit picking up dramatically. She's great at challenges and her strategic
    skills are finally being shown. It also looks like she's going to side
    with Savannah's gang. I can see her making F3 but I don't see her
    winning. She was too invisible early on. When Michele won, despite not
    going to TC until the merge happened, she had some clear winner confessionals early on. Sophie had barely any confessionals at all the
    first part of the game.


    What about Erica? I don't recall her being a major camera presence in
    the early part of S41.

    As for Rizo, he's not been very good at challenges and I'm guessing he's
    not good at making fire either. I don't think we've seen any of the four make fire, so it's possible he loses due to bad luck.


    That's possible, but I would just think a modern Survivor player is
    going to practice fire, even if they don't show it. Remember that older
    lady - was it Heather? - who came very close to winning F4 Fire back in
    S41? We had never seen her doing anything even remotely with fire that I
    can recall. Even Cirie, who has never been known for serious physical
    work around camp, held her own pretty well on Aussie Survivor v. World.
    I think nowadays probably all players - especially if they have any
    strategic orientation at all - at least know the mechanics and technique
    of making fire.

    Rizo is showing some strategic chops, so I have to think he has at least practiced fire at one point or another.

    But I have been presuming, probably wrongly, that Rizo and Savannah go
    to the finals together with a goat like Kristina who keeps hanging
    around because nobody cares about her (she can't win immunities and
    she's not gonna win the game).-a My guess was Kristina played her idol
    at F5 and then loses F4 immunity but is carried to the finals by F4
    winner. -a-aBut I guess it is possible Soph finds out about the idol and
    steals it.

    Kristina definitely has the no-vote F3 vibe about her. However, she's
    not getting a F3 edit. For Kristina to make F3, I think Rizo and
    Savannah would have to stab Sophi in the back. I don't see Savannah
    letting that happen. If Kristina makes F3 she's going to need to win something and have a lot of luck. When is the last time they can use
    their SITDs?


    I believe final seven is the last time for SITD. But if the core four
    are really a thing, my guess would be they would plan to take her out at
    final five, but she unveils the idol which would cause one of the four
    (likely whoever she voted for) to be voted out. But that could be where
    the KIP kicks in if Soph has figured out by then that Ktistina has the
    idol. I believe that can be used until Final Six. Even if she isn't
    sure, she could just take a guess that Kristina might have the idol and
    play it on her at F6 tribal.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Nov 23 16:34:19 2025
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    On 11/23/2025 2:38 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 11/23/2025 4:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 11/23/2025 8:47 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 11/23/2025 3:09 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    This is apparently a recent photo of Rizo, Sophie, Sophi, and
    Savannah. The other two people are Rizo's girlfriend and Savannah's
    boyfriend. Sophie looks amazing. Sophi looks like she's still in
    love with Savannah. I wonder if this could be an indication that
    Sophie goes deep into the game? It would be a real shocker if she,
    Sophi, and Savannah were F3, and Rizo got taken out by fire.

    https://x.com/_FromTheIsland/status/1992297100005060987


    That's amazingly interesting.-a It does suggest Sophie is now part of
    the Savannah-Rizo-Soph alliance (does that alliance have a name?),
    and it could foreshadow them ramrodding to final four.-a And if you're
    right in guessing that Rizo is fired out at F4, it would be the first
    all female final three since S29 when Natalie orchestrated bringing
    Jaclyn and Missy to F3.-a I think the only prior time there were three
    women in the finals was Kim, Chelsea and Sabrina in S24.-a There was
    also an all- female final two season (S4) with Vee and Neleh where
    the third place finisher, Kathy, was also female.

    I don't recall Rizo, Sophi, and Savannah mentioning an alliance name.

    My prediction of the three girls at the end and Rizo out at F4 due to
    losing fire, is pure speculation on my part. It's based on Sophie's
    edit picking up dramatically. She's great at challenges and her
    strategic skills are finally being shown. It also looks like she's
    going to side with Savannah's gang. I can see her making F3 but I
    don't see her winning. She was too invisible early on. When Michele
    won, despite not going to TC until the merge happened, she had some
    clear winner confessionals early on. Sophie had barely any
    confessionals at all the first part of the game.


    What about Erica?-a I don't recall her being a major camera presence in
    the early part of S41.

    Great point! I've tried to erase most of S41 from my mind. Were her confessionals good? I do vividly recall that she won thanks to a very controversial twist. IIRC, without that twist she wouldn't have made the merge. I wonder if they thought she would never win and didn't bother interviewing her enough to give her a better edit? Maryanne's edit was
    much better.

    As for Rizo, he's not been very good at challenges and I'm guessing
    he's not good at making fire either. I don't think we've seen any of
    the four make fire, so it's possible he loses due to bad luck.


    That's possible, but I would just think a modern Survivor player is
    going to practice fire, even if they don't show it.-a Remember that older lady - was it Heather? - who came very close to winning F4 Fire back in
    S41? We had never seen her doing anything even remotely with fire that I
    can recall.-a Even Cirie, who has never been known for serious physical
    work around camp, held her own pretty well on Aussie Survivor v. World.
    I think nowadays probably all players - especially if they have any strategic orientation at all - at least know the mechanics and technique
    of making fire.

    You would think they all practice making fire before going out, but I
    don't think they all do. Wasn't there someone on Australia v. The World
    that said they didn't practice?
    Rizo is showing some strategic chops, so I have to think he has at least practiced fire at one point or another.

    He's definitely studied the strategic aspect of the game. I'd say he
    didn't practice solving puzzles or other challenge aspects, so I
    wouldn't be surprised if he didn't practice fire. He seems to think he
    can win solely off of his ability to manipulate people and make good alliances.

    But I have been presuming, probably wrongly, that Rizo and Savannah
    go to the finals together with a goat like Kristina who keeps hanging
    around because nobody cares about her (she can't win immunities and
    she's not gonna win the game).-a My guess was Kristina played her idol
    at F5 and then loses F4 immunity but is carried to the finals by F4
    winner. -a-aBut I guess it is possible Soph finds out about the idol
    and steals it.

    Kristina definitely has the no-vote F3 vibe about her. However, she's
    not getting a F3 edit. For Kristina to make F3, I think Rizo and
    Savannah would have to stab Sophi in the back. I don't see Savannah
    letting that happen. If Kristina makes F3 she's going to need to win
    something and have a lot of luck. When is the last time they can use
    their SITDs?


    I believe final seven is the last time for SITD.-a But if the core four
    are really a thing, my guess would be they would plan to take her out at final five, but she unveils the idol which would cause one of the four (likely whoever she voted for) to be voted out.-a But that could be where the KIP kicks in if Soph has figured out by then that Ktistina has the idol.-a I believe that can be used until Final Six.-a Even if she isn't sure, she could just take a guess that Kristina might have the idol and
    play it on her at F6 tribal.

    So Kristina has two more TCs to use her SITD. How Sophi plays her KIP
    might be a major factor in who wins the game. I'm kind of expecting
    Sophi to tell Savannah she has a KIP, but to keep it secret from Rizo.
    I'm surprised Kristina has kept her HII a secret this long. Maybe Sophi
    will never find out about it.
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