• The Dangers of Undermining U.S. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Civil=96Military?= Relations

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    A fundamental element of U.S. civilumilitary relations is the principle
    of civilian control of the military. This principle pre-dates the
    Constitution itself. As Commander in Chief of the Continental Army,
    George Washington deferred to the Continental Congress, despite the
    severe disabilities of that body. The Constitution codified the
    principle of civilian control. Civilian policymakers would establish
    the goals of security policy and provide the material resources. The
    military would carry out the policy. If military leaders disagree with
    aspects of the policy, they can express their differences and make recommendations, but they have no right to insist that their advice be accepted. Civilumilitary relations are healthiest when there is mutual
    trust between civilians and the military, leading to a respectful give
    and take.

    Historians of civilumilitary relations often focus their attention on
    disputes between civilian policymakers and the military, judging
    healthy civilumilitary relations in terms of the number of times that
    one party or the other has its way. By this metric, the more often the civilians prevail, the healthier civilumilitary relations are assessed
    to beuat least until the presidency of Donald Trump.

    During TrumpAs first term, he and his military advisors clashed over
    such issues as our relationship with NATO, U.S. military actions in Afghanistan, intervention in Syria, and the appropriate response to
    domestic disorder. When his military advisors and Trump disagreed, the
    former frequently responded with subterfuge to undermine the
    PresidentAs ability to implement his agenda: oslow rollingo execution,
    leaking to the press in an effort to undermine public confidence in the decision, or simply ignoring the policy. Bureaucracies have perfected
    these kinds of responses to policies with which they disagree, and
    those in the senior ranks of the military are often no different. But
    under Trump, the military employed these tactics to an unprecedented
    extent.

    Some went even further. For example, right after TrumpAs first
    inauguration, Georgetown Law Professor Rosa Brooksua respected academic
    and senior Pentagon appointee from 2009 to 2011uwrote in Foreign Policy
    that TrumpAs ofirst week as president has made it all too clear [that]
    he is as crazy as everyone feared. [One] possibility is one that until recently I would have said was unthinkable in the United States of
    America: a military coup, or at least a refusal by military leaders to
    obey certain orders.o Brooks continued that, for the first time, she
    could oimagine plausible scenarios in which senior military officials
    might simply tell the president: aNo, sir. WeAre not doing that.Ao

    There is a name for this: praetorianism. From the time of Augustus
    Caesar until Constantine, a corps of soldiers known as the Praetorian
    Guard protected the Roman emperor. Over time, the Praetorians became
    the real power in Rome, appointing and deposing emperors at will. In
    our time, praetorianism has come to mean despotic military rule,
    something associated with countries in which the army is the real power
    behind the government. Praetorianism is incompatible with republican government. A modern failed example was the attempted coup against
    French President Charles de Gaulle in 1961, which arose from a
    praetorian bent on the part of French officers who sought to depose him
    over his intention to grant independence to Algeria.

    Seditious Video?
    During his second term, many of TrumpAs political enemies have taken up
    where Rosa Brooks left off. Perhaps the most troubling example occurred recently when six Democrat members of Congress posted a video aimed at
    service members. The video features U.S. Senators Elissa Slotkin of
    Michigan and Mark Kelly of Arizona and U.S. Representatives Maggie
    Goodlander of New Hampshire, Jason Crow of Colorado, and Chris Deluzio
    and Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvaniauall of whom are either military
    veterans or former intelligence officials.

    In the video, the lawmakers oremindo active members of the military and national security community that they swore to protect and defend the
    U.S. Constitution. oRight now, the threats to our Constitution arenAt
    just coming from abroad, but from right here at home,o Deluzio, a
    former Navy officer, and Crow, a former Army Ranger and paratrooper,
    say in turn. Kelly, a former Navy Captain, then says, oOur laws are
    clear: You can refuse illegal orders,o which Slotkin, a former CIA
    officer, repeats. Crow then adds that military members omust refuse
    illegal orderso before the others say, oNo one has to carry out orders
    that violate the law or our Constitution.o And they all pledge that
    when service members refuse to carry out illegal orders, oWe have your
    back.o

    Of course, regarding unlawful orders, these members of Congress are
    correct. All service members learn early in their training that they
    have an affirmative obligation to refuse unlawful orders. But service
    members do not get to refuse orders because they disagree with the administrationAs policies. And this video, at the very least,
    carelessly blurs the line between these things in a way to undermine
    trust between civilian policymakers and the military and between
    seniors and subordinates within the military.

    The video was clearly political in nature and is likely to foster
    confusion within the military ranks. The lawmakers failed to identify
    any specifics regarding unlawful orders. Nor did they offer examples of
    the kinds of orders soldiers should refuse to obey. Without context,
    the phrase orefuse illegal orderso blurs the line between legitimate
    legal instruction and political signaling. For a system that depends on discipline, clarity, and stability, ambiguity is a real problem.

    The civilumilitary implications are serious. Civilian control of the
    military rests on a clear hierarchy. Congress passes laws, the
    executive directs operations, and the military follows lawful commands.
    By addressing the troops directly about which orders to follow, the participants in the video disrupt that structure. Military leaders, not legislators, are responsible for issuing guidance to troops on how to
    evaluate or report questionable orders. The seriousness of the issue is underlined by the fact that the video comes from politicians rather
    than military authorities. The video draws service members into a
    political dispute, sowing discord, which is especially dangerous during periods of political tension.

    The President and his supporters have called the video seditious. There
    have been suggestions that at least one of the lawmakers in the video,
    Senator Kelly, be called back to active duty to face a court-martial.
    Even some conservative lawyers, such as Jonathan Turley and Andrew
    McCarthy, have argued that a sedition case would be dismissed
    immediately, because those on the video were exercising their right to
    free speech. But oneAs right to oppose a policy does not extend to
    efforts to interfere with those obligated to execute that policyuwhich
    is the effect of the video, intended or not.

    The Civil War provides an analogous example. There were many people in
    the North who disagreed with President LincolnAs policies. But some
    northern Democrats, who came to be known as Copperheads, crossed the
    line from dissent to obstruction of the war effort by interfering with recruitment and encouraging desertion. In 1863, anti-war Ohio Democrat Congressman Clement Vallandigham was arrested and tried by military
    tribunal for sabotaging the governmentAs war policies. A group of War Democrats wrote to Lincoln, pledging support for the war, but
    criticizing the prosecution of Vallandigham omerely for his words.o
    Lincoln replied that Vallandigham was encouraging desertion from the
    army, an act that is punishable by death. oMust I shoot a simple-minded soldier who deserts,o Lincoln asked, owhile I must not touch a hair of
    a wily agitator who induces him to desert?o There are some important similarities between the actions of the Copperheads and those of the participants in the recent video.

    ***

    When queried, the six lawmakers in the video were unable to identify a
    single example of an ounlawful ordero issued by Trump or his
    administration. That changed temporarily in late November when The
    Washington Post reported, citing anonymous sources, that Secretary of
    War Pete Hegseth had ordered an illegal second strike on a drug boat
    aimed at killing drug traffickers. Accusations of war crimes quickly dissolved, however, as The New York Times followed up with a story
    debunking the PostAs account, and Admiral Frank Bradley, who himself
    ordered the second strike, testified before Congress.

    Nonetheless, the question of the legality of military strikes on drug
    cartels remains a source of the claim that the Trump administration is operating outside the law. Another source for that claim is the administrationAs use of military force in cases of domestic disorder.
    In both cases, TrumpAs policies have historical precedents.

    Domestic Disorder
    TrumpAs critics claim that deploying National Guard and regular U.S.
    military forces to enforce the law in American cities violates civilu
    military norms, is unconstitutional, and is an irresponsible use of the professional military. But while there may be good reasons to limit the
    use of the U.S. military in domestic affairs, U.S. troops have been so employed since the beginning of our republic. Indeed, the U.S. Army
    Historical Center has published three 400-page volumes on the use of
    federal military forces in domestic affairs.

    The authority of the president to use force in response to domestic
    disorder arises from the Constitution itself. Section 4 of Article IV
    reads: oThe United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union
    a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive
    (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.o

    The fundamental purpose of a republican government is to protect its
    citizensA rights to life, liberty, and property. Although the First
    Amendment to the Constitution guarantees othe right of the people
    peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances,o it does not protect riot, arson, and looting.

    Under Article II of the Constitution, the president, as oCommander in
    Chief of the Army and Navy of the United Statesouand of the militia
    when under federal controluhas the authority to act against enemies
    both foreign and domestic. In 1792, Congress passed two laws pursuant
    to its constitutional power oto provide for calling forth the Militia
    to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel
    Invasionso: the Militia Act and the oCalling Fortho Act, which gave the president limited authority to employ the militia in the event of
    domestic emergencies.

    In 1807, at the behest of President Thomas Jeffersonutroubled by his
    inability to use the regular Army as well as the militia to deal with
    the Aaron Burr conspiracy to establish an independent country within
    the U.S.uCongress passed the Insurrection Act. Although intended as a
    tool for suppressing rebellion when circumstances omake it
    impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings,o it also
    enabled the Army to enforce federal laws, not only as a separate force,
    but also as part of a local posse comitatus (a group conscripted to
    enforce the law). Accordingly, troops were often used in the antebellum
    period to enforce fugitive slave laws and suppress domestic violence.
    In 1854, President Franklin PierceAs attorney general, Caleb Cushing,
    issued an opinion that endorsed the legality of using the Army in a
    posse comitatus:

    A marshal of the United States, when opposed in the execution of his
    duty, by unlawful combinations, has authority to summon the entire
    able-bodied force of his precinct, as a posse comitatus. The authority comprehends not only bystanders and other citizens generally, but any
    and all organized armed forces, whether militia of the state, or
    officers, soldiers, sailors, and marines of the United States.

    Troops were used to suppress domestic violence between pro- and anti-
    slavery factions in oBloody Kansas,o and federal soldiers and Marines participated in the capture of John Brown at Harpers Ferry in 1859.
    After the Civil War, the U.S. Army was involved in supporting the Reconstruction governments in the southern states. Presidents invoked
    the Insurrection Act on five occasions during the 1950s and 1960s to
    counter resistance to desegregation decrees in the South. And during
    the Los Angeles riots of 1992, elements of U.S. Army and Marine
    divisions augmented the California National Guard.

    Those who have criticized President Trump for threatening to use the
    National Guard and possibly the Marines oagainst the will of state
    governorso might want to consider what happened when some southern
    governors refused to execute the 1954 Supreme Court mandate to
    integrate schools. In 1957, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus deployed his stateAs National Guard to defy federal authority by preventing the
    integration of a high school in Little Rock. President Dwight D.
    Eisenhower responded by placing the Arkansas National Guard under
    federal control and deploying soldiers of the 101st Airborne Division
    to enforce the law. In a letter to Eisenhower, Democrat U.S. Senator
    Richard Russell of Georgia compared soldiers of the 101st Airborne
    Division to HitlerAs ostorm troopers,o illustrating that the argumendum
    ad Hitlerem often deployed against Trump is nothing new.

    Many today claim that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (PCA) prohibits
    the use of the military in domestic affairs. But they completely
    misunderstand that law.

    In the election of 1876, President Ulysses S. Grant deployed Army units
    as a posse comitatusuunder the authority of local law enforcement
    officialsuto protect the rights of black citizens and Republicans in
    general at southern polling places. In that election, Rutherford B.
    Hayes defeated Samuel Tilden with the disputed electoral votes of South Carolina, Louisiana, and Florida. Southerners claimed that the Army had
    been misused to origo that election, which led to the passage of the
    PCA two years later. But the PCA only prohibits federal troops from
    being placed under lesser authorities than that of the president. It
    does not constitute a bar to the use of the military in domestic
    affairs, and it certainly does not limit the presidentAs authority as Commander in Chief of the U.S. military.

    As John Brinkerhoff, an authority on the use of the military in
    domestic affairs, wrote in 2002: oThe presidentAs power to use both
    regulars and militia remained undisturbed by the Posse Comitatus Act.o

    Drug Trafficking
    TrumpAs critics charge him with violating both domestic and
    international law by using the U.S. military to target drug cartels and
    drug runners, claiming that his actions are unprecedented. But as far
    back as the Reagan administration in 1986, U.S. Army infantry and
    aviation assets operated with Bolivian forces against drug producers in
    that country. And in 1993, President Bill Clinton issued a Presidential Decision Directive on Counternarcotics in the Western Hemisphere,
    assigning a substantial role in drug interdiction to the military.

    The National Defense Authorization Act of 1995 authorized use of
    military assets in drug interdiction: 14 USC Section 526 authorizes
    firing on vessels carrying drugs, and 8 USC Section 1189 authorizes the designation of narco-terror groups as Foreign Terrorist Organizations, unlocking powers used by every administration since 9/11. As for
    international law, the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea authorizes military force against suspected stateless vessels engaged
    in piracy and slave trafficking, essentially labeling them hostis
    humani generis, meaning enemies of mankind.

    The Trump administration has proceeded in accordance with legal
    prudence. Admiral Alvin Holsey, Commander of U.S. Southern Command,
    properly sought legal justification for the strikes on suspected drug
    boats. Subsequently, the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel
    advised the Pentagon that the strikes were legal under both U.S. and international law, that all strikes have been conducted in ocomplete compliance with the law of armed conflict,o and that U.S. troops would
    not be exposed to prosecution for carrying out the orders. It is
    legitimate to argue that TrumpAs policy regarding these strikes is wrongheaded, but it is not unprecedented. Indeed, his interpretation of
    what constitutes the boundary of his military authority is historically ordinary.

    But what about the lack of congressional approval for the use of force
    against narco-traffickers? In this regard, TrumpAs policy is comparable
    to the Obama administrationAs war in Libya and extensive drone attacks,
    the Biden administrationAs attacks on Houthi targets in Yemen, and
    indeed, going way back, President JeffersonAs attack on the Barbary
    Pirates. All these were undertaken without congressional approval.
    TrumpAs actions in the Caribbean are well within U.S. political norms.

    ***

    I am on record opposing the use of the military in the war on drugs and
    the normalization of using U.S. forces in domestic law enforcement. But
    the fact is that President Trump has the constitutional and legal
    authority to do these things. Any arguments against his policies must
    be made in terms of prudence, not the Constitution or the law. Also, it
    should be needless to sayualthough today, sadly, it isnAtuthat
    opposition to TrumpAs policies should be expressed in a way that is
    careful not to undermine the principle of civilian control of the
    military that is fundamental to U.S. civilumilitary relations.
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    Democrats and the liberal media hate President Trump more than they
    love this country.

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