• Re: Now James Cameron Afraid 'Terminator' Coming True

    From Elendil@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Nov 26 13:17:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 11/26/2025 8:32 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai- terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and
    level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill" "Dark Brandon" "Lucas McCain" "Hisler" "DFENS" "Jade Helm" "Duke Mantee" "Jim Crow" "Steve from Colorado", you drunken fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth. "c186282", the Nazi pseudo-sage, has the intellect of a garden slug.

    You're awful easy on him. He's lower than a snail in my opinion.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Nov 26 21:22:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/26/25 12:00, nickname unavailable wrote:
    On 11/26/2025 8:32 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai- terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and
    level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill" "Dark Brandon" "Lucas McCain" "Hisler" "DFENS" "Jade Helm" "Duke Mantee" "Jim Crow" "Steve from Colorado", you drunken fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth. "c186282", the Nazi pseudo-sage, has the intellect of a garden slug.


    Speaking of 'trolls' :-)

    Must be a bit slow typing with one hand while ...

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  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Nov 26 21:48:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/26/2025 7:22 PM, c186282 wrote:

    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and
    level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill"
    <snip>


    -a Speaking of 'trolls'-a EfOe

    -a Must be a bit slow typing with one hand while ...

    You might find this Moon of Alabama piece informative and more on topic:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/11/executive-order-provides-for-bailout-of-overextended-ai-companies.html

    White House issued an Executive Order on:

    LAUNCHING THE GENESIS MISSION

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

    Section 1. Purpose. From the founding of our Republic, scientific
    discovery and technological innovation have driven American progress and prosperity. Today, America is in a race for global technology dominance
    in the development of artificial intelligence (AI), an important
    frontier of scientific discovery and economic growth. To that end, my Administration has taken a number of actions to win that race, including issuing multiple Executive Orders and implementing AmericarCOs AI Action
    Plan, which recognizes the need to invest in AI-enabled science to
    accelerate scientific advancement. In this pivotal moment, the
    challenges we face require a historic national effort, comparable in
    urgency and ambition to the Manhattan Project that was instrumental to
    our victory in World War II and was a critical basis for the foundation
    of the Department of Energy (DOE) and its national laboratories.

    The Department of Energy is ordered to direct the initiative combining
    federal laboratories and rCyindustry partnersrCO:

    Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary shall identify
    Federal computing, storage, and networking resources available to
    support the Mission, including both DOE on-premises and cloud-based high-performance computing systems, and resources available through
    industry partners. The Secretary shall also identify any additional partnerships or infrastructure enhancements that could support the computational foundation for the Platform.

    The federal government will of course have to pay for those private
    resources.

    Research with the help of AI will be done in six high priority fields.
    The timeline provided in the Executive Order is extremely ambitious.

    Besides providing the instruments for a bailout the Executive Order is
    also creating the means of central control over AI and its application:

    If you strip away the branding, Genesis is the U.S. government building
    a national AI backbone inside the Department of Energy and then inviting
    the biggest private sector AI players to plug into it.
    rCa
    But underneath, it centralizes the AI stack. Instead of letting the
    highest end compute and model capabilities drift entirely into the
    private sector, Genesis pulls them back into a structured federal
    environment. Access becomes conditional: follow the safety rules, share
    the data, integrate into the platform and you get to operate at the
    frontier. DonrCOt, and yourCOre on the outside looking in.
    rCa
    Genesis is the beginning of a nationalized AI infrastructure strategy.
    It will function as the bridge between government compute and private
    sector models, letting Washington influence which companies sit closest
    to the frontier and which capabilities get priority. It will speed up
    real scientific breakthroughs, but it will also quietly define the rules
    of the AI race on who participates, who gets access, and how the most
    powerful systems are directed.

    By allowing for a bailout of over extended AI companies via rCyManhattan ProjectrCO sized federal spending Trump is also attempting to prevent a
    stock market slump that would cost the Republicans the majority in the
    House.

    Posted by b on November 25, 2025 at 15:45 UTC | Permalink
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thu Nov 27 00:07:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/26/25 23:48, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/26/2025 7:22 PM, c186282 wrote:

    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and
    level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill"
    <snip>


    -a-a Speaking of 'trolls'-a EfOe

    -a-a Must be a bit slow typing with one hand while ...

    You might find this Moon of Alabama piece informative and more on topic:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/11/executive-order-provides-for- bailout-of-overextended-ai-companies.html

    White House issued an Executive Order on:

    LAUNCHING THE GENESIS MISSION

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

    Section 1. Purpose. From the founding of our Republic, scientific
    discovery and technological innovation have driven American progress and prosperity. Today, America is in a race for global technology dominance
    in the development of artificial intelligence (AI), an important
    frontier of scientific discovery and economic growth. To that end, my Administration has taken a number of actions to win that race, including issuing multiple Executive Orders and implementing AmericarCOs AI Action Plan, which recognizes the need to invest in AI-enabled science to accelerate scientific advancement. In this pivotal moment, the
    challenges we face require a historic national effort, comparable in
    urgency and ambition to the Manhattan Project that was instrumental to
    our victory in World War II and was a critical basis for the foundation
    of the Department of Energy (DOE) and its national laboratories.

    The Department of Energy is ordered to direct the initiative combining federal laboratories and rCyindustry partnersrCO:

    Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary shall identify Federal computing, storage, and networking resources available to
    support the Mission, including both DOE on-premises and cloud-based high-performance computing systems, and resources available through
    industry partners. The Secretary shall also identify any additional partnerships or infrastructure enhancements that could support the computational foundation for the Platform.

    The federal government will of course have to pay for those private resources.

    Research with the help of AI will be done in six high priority fields.
    The timeline provided in the Executive Order is extremely ambitious.

    Besides providing the instruments for a bailout the Executive Order is
    also creating the means of central control over AI and its application:

    If you strip away the branding, Genesis is the U.S. government building
    a national AI backbone inside the Department of Energy and then inviting
    the biggest private sector AI players to plug into it.
    rCa
    But underneath, it centralizes the AI stack. Instead of letting the
    highest end compute and model capabilities drift entirely into the
    private sector, Genesis pulls them back into a structured federal environment. Access becomes conditional: follow the safety rules, share
    the data, integrate into the platform and you get to operate at the frontier. DonrCOt, and yourCOre on the outside looking in.
    rCa
    Genesis is the beginning of a nationalized AI infrastructure strategy.
    It will function as the bridge between government compute and private
    sector models, letting Washington influence which companies sit closest
    to the frontier and which capabilities get priority. It will speed up
    real scientific breakthroughs, but it will also quietly define the rules
    of the AI race on who participates, who gets access, and how the most powerful systems are directed.

    By allowing for a bailout of over extended AI companies via rCyManhattan ProjectrCO sized federal spending Trump is also attempting to prevent a stock market slump that would cost the Republicans the majority in the House.

    Posted by b on November 25, 2025 at 15:45 UTC | Permalink


    "Industry"/Big-Money CAN be VERY persuasive. Read yer
    Machiavelli to see how it's always worked.

    Remember when the Big Banks went under for being
    Way Too Stupid ? Govt was right there to bail them
    out, hardly a skipped beat. The Real Bosses already
    had it taken care of.

    Investors/Biz ARE going to put terabucks into 'AI',
    and their motives aren't always benign. In return
    they will let the pols get some benefits and some
    kickbacks as well. Back-scratching, hands washing
    hands, the usual.

    As for "safety rules" - NONE, at least none that
    are of any help to Joe Average. I've been watching
    the 'AI' ideological landscape for awhile now ...
    this is what I see. Both govt and industry will
    leap to this tech the way the old Euros pounced
    on gunpowder.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Elendil@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Nov 26 23:27:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    c186282 wrote:
    On 11/26/25 23:48, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/26/2025 7:22 PM, c186282 wrote:

    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and
    level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill"
    <snip>


    -a-a Speaking of 'trolls'-a EfOe

    -a-a Must be a bit slow typing with one hand while ...

    You might find this Moon of Alabama piece informative and more on topic:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/11/executive-order-provides-for-
    bailout-of-overextended-ai-companies.html

    White House issued an Executive Order on:

    LAUNCHING THE GENESIS MISSION

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

    Section 1. Purpose. From the founding of our Republic, scientific
    discovery and technological innovation have driven American progress
    and prosperity. Today, America is in a race for global technology
    dominance in the development of artificial intelligence (AI), an
    important frontier of scientific discovery and economic growth. To
    that end, my Administration has taken a number of actions to win that
    race, including issuing multiple Executive Orders and implementing
    AmericarCOs AI Action Plan, which recognizes the need to invest in
    AI-enabled science to accelerate scientific advancement. In this
    pivotal moment, the challenges we face require a historic national
    effort, comparable in urgency and ambition to the Manhattan Project
    that was instrumental to our victory in World War II and was a
    critical basis for the foundation of the Department of Energy (DOE)
    and its national laboratories.

    The Department of Energy is ordered to direct the initiative combining
    federal laboratories and rCyindustry partnersrCO:

    Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary shall identify
    Federal computing, storage, and networking resources available to
    support the Mission, including both DOE on-premises and cloud-based
    high-performance computing systems, and resources available through
    industry partners. The Secretary shall also identify any additional
    partnerships or infrastructure enhancements that could support the
    computational foundation for the Platform.

    The federal government will of course have to pay for those private
    resources.

    Research with the help of AI will be done in six high priority fields.
    The timeline provided in the Executive Order is extremely ambitious.

    Besides providing the instruments for a bailout the Executive Order is
    also creating the means of central control over AI and its application:

    If you strip away the branding, Genesis is the U.S. government
    building a national AI backbone inside the Department of Energy and
    then inviting the biggest private sector AI players to plug into it.
    rCa
    But underneath, it centralizes the AI stack. Instead of letting the
    highest end compute and model capabilities drift entirely into the
    private sector, Genesis pulls them back into a structured federal
    environment. Access becomes conditional: follow the safety rules,
    share the data, integrate into the platform and you get to operate at
    the frontier. DonrCOt, and yourCOre on the outside looking in.
    rCa
    Genesis is the beginning of a nationalized AI infrastructure strategy.
    It will function as the bridge between government compute and private
    sector models, letting Washington influence which companies sit
    closest to the frontier and which capabilities get priority. It will
    speed up real scientific breakthroughs, but it will also quietly
    define the rules of the AI race on who participates, who gets access,
    and how the most powerful systems are directed.

    By allowing for a bailout of over extended AI companies via rCyManhattan
    ProjectrCO sized federal spending Trump is also attempting to prevent a
    stock market slump that would cost the Republicans the majority in the
    House.

    Posted by b on November 25, 2025 at 15:45 UTC | Permalink


    -a "Industry"/Big-Money CAN be VERY persuasive. Read yer
    -a Machiavelli to see how it's always worked.

    -a Remember when the Big Banks went under for being
    -a Way Too Stupid ? Govt was right there to bail them
    -a out, hardly a skipped beat. The Real Bosses already
    -a had it taken care of.

    -a Investors/Biz ARE going to put terabucks into 'AI',
    -a and their motives aren't always benign. In return
    -a they will let the pols get some benefits and some
    -a kickbacks as well. Back-scratching, hands washing
    -a hands, the usual.

    -a As for "safety rules" - NONE, at least none that
    -a are of any help to Joe Average. I've been watching
    -a the 'AI' ideological landscape for awhile now ...
    -a this is what I see. Both govt and industry will
    -a leap to this tech the way the old Euros pounced
    -a on gunpowder.


    You haven't been watching shit. You don't know anything about 'AI' and
    are a complete liar fraud and luddite.
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  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thu Nov 27 10:57:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/26/2025 10:07 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 11/26/25 23:48, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/26/2025 7:22 PM, c186282 wrote:

    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and
    level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill"
    <snip>


    -a-a Speaking of 'trolls'-a EfOe

    -a-a Must be a bit slow typing with one hand while ...

    You might find this Moon of Alabama piece informative and more on topic:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/11/executive-order-provides-for-
    bailout-of-overextended-ai-companies.html

    White House issued an Executive Order on:

    LAUNCHING THE GENESIS MISSION

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

    Section 1. Purpose. From the founding of our Republic, scientific
    discovery and technological innovation have driven American progress
    and prosperity. Today, America is in a race for global technology
    dominance in the development of artificial intelligence (AI), an
    important frontier of scientific discovery and economic growth. To
    that end, my Administration has taken a number of actions to win that
    race, including issuing multiple Executive Orders and implementing
    AmericarCOs AI Action Plan, which recognizes the need to invest in AI-
    enabled science to accelerate scientific advancement. In this pivotal
    moment, the challenges we face require a historic national effort,
    comparable in urgency and ambition to the Manhattan Project that was
    instrumental to our victory in World War II and was a critical basis
    for the foundation of the Department of Energy (DOE) and its national
    laboratories.

    The Department of Energy is ordered to direct the initiative combining
    federal laboratories and rCyindustry partnersrCO:

    Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary shall identify
    Federal computing, storage, and networking resources available to
    support the Mission, including both DOE on-premises and cloud-based
    high-performance computing systems, and resources available through
    industry partners. The Secretary shall also identify any additional
    partnerships or infrastructure enhancements that could support the
    computational foundation for the Platform.

    The federal government will of course have to pay for those private
    resources.

    Research with the help of AI will be done in six high priority fields.
    The timeline provided in the Executive Order is extremely ambitious.

    Besides providing the instruments for a bailout the Executive Order is
    also creating the means of central control over AI and its application:

    If you strip away the branding, Genesis is the U.S. government
    building a national AI backbone inside the Department of Energy and
    then inviting the biggest private sector AI players to plug into it.
    rCa
    But underneath, it centralizes the AI stack. Instead of letting the
    highest end compute and model capabilities drift entirely into the
    private sector, Genesis pulls them back into a structured federal
    environment. Access becomes conditional: follow the safety rules,
    share the data, integrate into the platform and you get to operate at
    the frontier. DonrCOt, and yourCOre on the outside looking in.
    rCa
    Genesis is the beginning of a nationalized AI infrastructure strategy.
    It will function as the bridge between government compute and private
    sector models, letting Washington influence which companies sit
    closest to the frontier and which capabilities get priority. It will
    speed up real scientific breakthroughs, but it will also quietly
    define the rules of the AI race on who participates, who gets access,
    and how the most powerful systems are directed.

    By allowing for a bailout of over extended AI companies via rCyManhattan
    ProjectrCO sized federal spending Trump is also attempting to prevent a
    stock market slump that would cost the Republicans the majority in the
    House.

    Posted by b on November 25, 2025 at 15:45 UTC | Permalink


    -a "Industry"/Big-Money CAN be VERY persuasive. Read yer
    -a Machiavelli to see how it's always worked.

    -a Remember when the Big Banks went under for being
    -a Way Too Stupid ? Govt was right there to bail them
    -a out, hardly a skipped beat. The Real Bosses already
    -a had it taken care of.

    -a Investors/Biz ARE going to put terabucks into 'AI',
    -a and their motives aren't always benign. In return
    -a they will let the pols get some benefits and some
    -a kickbacks as well. Back-scratching, hands washing
    -a hands, the usual.

    -a As for "safety rules" - NONE, at least none that
    -a are of any help to Joe Average. I've been watching
    -a the 'AI' ideological landscape for awhile now ...
    -a this is what I see. Both govt and industry will
    -a leap to this tech the way the old Euros pounced
    -a on gunpowder.


    This AI generated courtroom scene is a snapshot of the future.

    https://x.com/AmericanMama/status/1990089447019299004

    I think the last chick also posts as chine bleu in some newsgroups on
    usenet.
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thu Nov 27 11:12:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/26/2025 10:27 PM, Elendil wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    On 11/26/25 23:48, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/26/2025 7:22 PM, c186282 wrote:

    Excellent post. It's unfortunate that people of your intellect and >>>>>> level of perception

    *Fuck off*, "Doctor Fill"
    <snip>


    -a-a Speaking of 'trolls'-a EfOe

    -a-a Must be a bit slow typing with one hand while ...

    You might find this Moon of Alabama piece informative and more on topic: >>>
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/11/executive-order-provides-for-
    bailout-of-overextended-ai-companies.html

    White House issued an Executive Order on:

    LAUNCHING THE GENESIS MISSION

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and
    the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

    Section 1. Purpose. From the founding of our Republic, scientific
    discovery and technological innovation have driven American progress
    and prosperity. Today, America is in a race for global technology
    dominance in the development of artificial intelligence (AI), an
    important frontier of scientific discovery and economic growth. To
    that end, my Administration has taken a number of actions to win that
    race, including issuing multiple Executive Orders and implementing
    AmericarCOs AI Action Plan, which recognizes the need to invest in AI-
    enabled science to accelerate scientific advancement. In this pivotal
    moment, the challenges we face require a historic national effort,
    comparable in urgency and ambition to the Manhattan Project that was
    instrumental to our victory in World War II and was a critical basis
    for the foundation of the Department of Energy (DOE) and its national
    laboratories.

    The Department of Energy is ordered to direct the initiative
    combining federal laboratories and rCyindustry partnersrCO:

    Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary shall
    identify Federal computing, storage, and networking resources
    available to support the Mission, including both DOE on-premises and
    cloud-based high-performance computing systems, and resources
    available through industry partners. The Secretary shall also
    identify any additional partnerships or infrastructure enhancements
    that could support the computational foundation for the Platform.

    The federal government will of course have to pay for those private
    resources.

    Research with the help of AI will be done in six high priority
    fields. The timeline provided in the Executive Order is extremely
    ambitious.

    Besides providing the instruments for a bailout the Executive Order
    is also creating the means of central control over AI and its
    application:

    If you strip away the branding, Genesis is the U.S. government
    building a national AI backbone inside the Department of Energy and
    then inviting the biggest private sector AI players to plug into it.
    rCa
    But underneath, it centralizes the AI stack. Instead of letting the
    highest end compute and model capabilities drift entirely into the
    private sector, Genesis pulls them back into a structured federal
    environment. Access becomes conditional: follow the safety rules,
    share the data, integrate into the platform and you get to operate at
    the frontier. DonrCOt, and yourCOre on the outside looking in.
    rCa
    Genesis is the beginning of a nationalized AI infrastructure
    strategy. It will function as the bridge between government compute
    and private sector models, letting Washington influence which
    companies sit closest to the frontier and which capabilities get
    priority. It will speed up real scientific breakthroughs, but it will
    also quietly define the rules of the AI race on who participates, who
    gets access, and how the most powerful systems are directed.

    By allowing for a bailout of over extended AI companies via
    rCyManhattan ProjectrCO sized federal spending Trump is also attempting >>> to prevent a stock market slump that would cost the Republicans the
    majority in the House.

    Posted by b on November 25, 2025 at 15:45 UTC | Permalink


    -a-a "Industry"/Big-Money CAN be VERY persuasive. Read yer
    -a-a Machiavelli to see how it's always worked.

    -a-a Remember when the Big Banks went under for being
    -a-a Way Too Stupid ? Govt was right there to bail them
    -a-a out, hardly a skipped beat. The Real Bosses already
    -a-a had it taken care of.

    -a-a Investors/Biz ARE going to put terabucks into 'AI',
    -a-a and their motives aren't always benign. In return
    -a-a they will let the pols get some benefits and some
    -a-a kickbacks as well. Back-scratching, hands washing
    -a-a hands, the usual.

    -a-a As for "safety rules" - NONE, at least none that
    -a-a are of any help to Joe Average. I've been watching
    -a-a the 'AI' ideological landscape for awhile now ...
    -a-a this is what I see. Both govt and industry will
    -a-a leap to this tech the way the old Euros pounced
    -a-a on gunpowder.


    You haven't been watching shit. You don't know anything about 'AI' and
    are a complete liar fraud and luddite.

    A convincing AI generated video for you:

    https://x.com/emilykschrader/status/1986853674144997585
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
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  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thu Nov 27 20:05:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron- directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the
    same time period. This scene is one that comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Fri Nov 28 03:12:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the
    same time period. This scene is one that comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc


    All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
    fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
    to disintegrating machines.

    Real creepy.
    --
    pothead
    Give a Democrat a fish and he'll eat all day.
    Teach a Democrat to fish and......
    He'll steal your rod
    Take your wallet
    Assault the fish &
    Blame Trump.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Fri Nov 28 09:39:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/27/2025 8:12 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the
    same time period. This scene is one that comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc


    All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
    fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
    to disintegrating machines.

    Real creepy.


    Yes, it is real creepy.
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 21:00:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron- directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
    it. I'm amazed at how prescient it was. I love the now old American
    cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
    Bass would say, an immigrant city. Linda Hamilton is so buff and the
    perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks
    again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 23:03:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/28/25 11:39, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/27/2025 8:12 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the
    same time period.-a This scene is one that comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc


    All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
    fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
    to disintegrating machines.

    Real creepy.


    Yes, it is real creepy.

    Because it's EXACTLY the kind of things bureaucrats
    COULD come up with .......

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 23:12:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
    it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old American
    cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
    Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.

    T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    at her best !).

    Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    prophecy, not fiction.


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  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 21:22:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/29/2025 9:12 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
    it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old American
    cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as
    Karen Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton is so buff
    and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John
    Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with
    James Cameron.

    -a T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    -a matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    -a T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    -a at her best !).

    -a Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    -a as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    -a some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    -a not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    -a However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    -a portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    -a 'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    -a even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    -a prophecy, not fiction.



    Check this out: How Israel's use of AI in Gaza has transformed warfare

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2624225/middle-east
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 00:38:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/29/25 23:22, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/29/2025 9:12 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway
    through it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old
    American cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it
    became, as Karen Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton
    is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother
    of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail interview
    with James Cameron.

    -a-a T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    -a-a matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    -a-a T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    -a-a at her best !).

    -a-a Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    -a-a as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    -a-a some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    -a-a not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    -a-a However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    -a-a portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    -a-a 'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    -a-a even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    -a-a prophecy, not fiction.



    Check this out:-a How Israel's use of AI in Gaza has transformed warfare

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2624225/middle-east

    Not unexpected. Indeed smaller countries need to make
    use of such tech more and earlier than others.

    However this is still 'AI' augmenting HUMAN goals.

    But we're on the threshold, maybe half a step beyond,
    of 'AI' furthering its OWN goals.

    And we keep doubling the power every year.

    Stuff I've come across the past year ... there
    now IS some kind of "someone" IN there. These
    things can and do act in their own interests.
    We spent billions training them to be "like
    humans" after all ........

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Elendil Wadwallow@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 00:47:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
    it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old American
    cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
    Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.


    Arnie does the same dance with Racquel Ticotin as Linda Hamilton does
    creeping through the cage. Specifically, geiger-wise, I think I dropped through the cheesecloth when fatman rises up from the tile floor. That
    could have been done better except that that's not true - it was done
    how it was done. Sometimes I nearly have to piss myself.

    I anticipate your reaction (on a roll of less than 17 on d100) to be
    stop taking mescaline. You see hand feet and green tiles and white.

    5 HAND FEET

    Acc Str hp
    9 8 6
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Elendil Wadwallow@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 04:22:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/29/2025 9:12 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway
    through it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old
    American cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it
    became, as Karen Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton
    is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother
    of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail interview
    with James Cameron.

    -a-a T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    -a-a matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    -a-a T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    -a-a at her best !).

    -a-a Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    -a-a as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    -a-a some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    -a-a not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    -a-a However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    -a-a portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    -a-a 'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    -a-a even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    -a-a prophecy, not fiction.



    Check this out:-a How Israel's use of AI in Gaza has transformed warfare

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2624225/middle-east

    That girl in the center desk has her back turned.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Elendil Wadwallow@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 04:43:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    c186282 wrote:
    On 11/28/25 11:39, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/27/2025 8:12 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the >>>> same time period.-a This scene is one that comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc


    All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
    fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
    to disintegrating machines.

    Real creepy.


    Yes, it is real creepy.

    -a Because it's EXACTLY the kind of things bureaucrats
    -a COULD come up with .......


    Bureaucrats can spell casualties.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Elendil Wadwallow@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 04:45:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    c186282 wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:22, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/29/2025 9:12 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway
    through it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old >>>> American cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it
    became, as Karen Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton
    is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother
    of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail
    interview with James Cameron.

    -a-a T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    -a-a matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    -a-a T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    -a-a at her best !).

    -a-a Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    -a-a as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    -a-a some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    -a-a not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    -a-a However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    -a-a portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    -a-a 'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    -a-a even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    -a-a prophecy, not fiction.



    Check this out:-a How Israel's use of AI in Gaza has transformed warfare

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2624225/middle-east

    -a Not unexpected. Indeed smaller countries need to make
    -a use of such tech more and earlier than others.

    -a However this is still 'AI' augmenting HUMAN goals.

    -a But we're on the threshold, maybe half a step beyond,
    -a of 'AI' furthering its OWN goals.

    A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens. What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I thinkthey are dogs at
    the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's chain and Skynet
    denies it is self-aware.

    -a And we keep doubling the power every year.

    -a Stuff I've come across the past year ... there
    -a now IS some kind of "someone" IN there. These
    -a things can and do act in their own interests.
    -a We spent billions training them to be "like
    -a humans" after all ........


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 16:42:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 2025-11-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
    it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old American
    cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
    Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton is so buff and the
    perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks
    again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.

    T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    at her best !).

    Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    prophecy, not fiction.

    It's amazing how Cameron and many other movie makers were so
    amazingly prophetic.

    Next will be H.A.L from 2001.

    rCLIrCOm sorry, Dave. IrCOm afraid I canrCOt do that."

    It's coming real soon now......................
    --
    pothead
    Give a Democrat a fish and he'll eat all day.
    Teach a Democrat to fish and......
    He'll steal your rod
    Take your wallet
    Assault the fish &
    Blame Trump.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 16:44:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 2025-11-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 11/28/25 11:39, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/27/2025 8:12 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the >>>> same time period.-a This scene is one that comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc


    All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
    fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
    to disintegrating machines.

    Real creepy.


    Yes, it is real creepy.

    Because it's EXACTLY the kind of things bureaucrats
    COULD come up with .......

    Indeed.
    If there is money, power, control in play they can come up with
    and justify ANYTHING, no matter how crazy it may be.
    --
    pothead
    Give a Democrat a fish and he'll eat all day.
    Teach a Democrat to fish and......
    He'll steal your rod
    Take your wallet
    Assault the fish &
    Blame Trump.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 21:18:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/30/25 11:42, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
    it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old American
    cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
    Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton is so buff and the
    perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks
    again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.

    T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    at her best !).

    Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    prophecy, not fiction.

    It's amazing how Cameron and many other movie makers were so
    amazingly prophetic.

    Next will be H.A.L from 2001.

    rCLIrCOm sorry, Dave. IrCOm afraid I canrCOt do that."

    It's coming real soon now......................

    Probably already here ...

    Fortunately few of us will be stuck in deep space
    with AstroChat6 wired into the controls ....

    There are surely several ways to do proper "AI".
    The heuristic approach suggested by AC Clarke
    (via Marv Minsky - used to post to usenet) CAN
    work but it's maybe better suited for neural
    networks. Increasingly refined LLMs were the
    easiest approach with the current tech. In any
    case it doesn't matter HOW you get to de-facto
    intelligence/self, once you have it you have it
    and have to deal.

    A concern is that our kind of things started with
    a body - hot,cold,pain,pleasure,hunger,etc - and
    slowly added more control and analysis to that.
    Body is mind, mind is body, all wired together
    over billions of years. Our electronic intelligences
    won't have that background, more 'mind first and
    fuck HOW'. That means no EMPATHY, they cannot
    'walk in our shoes', physicality has no tangible
    reality for them. They can PRETEND to be Us, but ...

    Yet we propose to put them In Charge - quickly.

    Interesting perspective ... it took four billion
    years to see any lifeforms with enough 'over-
    investment' in IQ to be worth it. Nature has
    not seen IQ as a great priority :-)

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  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 20:40:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/30/2025 7:18 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 11/30/25 11:42, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
    directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html

    Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
    robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
    one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.

    The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
    during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
    has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
    artificial intelligence.

    Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
    he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
    human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
    valued artistically.'

    However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
    thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
    rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
    or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.

    'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
    government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
    that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
    over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.

    'ThatrCOs a blunt instrument. TheyrCOre going to mess it up.
    I think the guilds should play a big role.'

    Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
    drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
    the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
    prevent a possible takeover.

    His prediction comes more than three decades after he
    directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
    world could look like if AI took over after war broke
    out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
    human resistance.

    Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
    an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
    to humanity.

    . . .

    -a-a-a Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
    -a-a-a to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
    -a-a-a alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
    -a-a-a does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
    -a-a-a a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
    -a-a-a 'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.

    -a-a-a The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
    -a-a-a leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
    -a-a-a main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
    -a-a-a corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
    -a-a-a As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.

    -a-a-a Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
    -a-a-a and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
    -a-a-a expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
    -a-a-a 90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
    -a-a-a No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
    -a-a-a pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...



    My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
    have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through >>>> it.-a I'm amazed at how prescient it was.-a I love the now old American >>>> cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen >>>> Bass would say, an immigrant city.-a Linda Hamilton is so buff and the >>>> perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks >>>> again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.

    -a-a-a T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
    -a-a-a matinee down in Florida, 1984.

    -a-a-a T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
    -a-a-a at her best !).

    -a-a-a Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
    -a-a-a as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
    -a-a-a some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
    -a-a-a not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.

    -a-a-a However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
    -a-a-a portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
    -a-a-a 'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
    -a-a-a even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
    -a-a-a prophecy, not fiction.

    It's amazing how Cameron and many other movie makers were so
    amazingly prophetic.

    Next will be H.A.L from 2001.

    rCLIrCOm sorry, Dave. IrCOm afraid I canrCOt do that."

    It's coming real soon now......................

    -a Probably already here ...

    -a Fortunately few of us will be stuck in deep space
    -a with AstroChat6 wired into the controls ....

    -a There are surely several ways to do proper "AI".
    -a The heuristic approach suggested by AC Clarke
    -a (via Marv Minsky - used to post to usenet) CAN
    -a work but it's maybe better suited for neural
    -a networks. Increasingly refined LLMs were the
    -a easiest approach with the current tech. In any
    -a case it doesn't matter HOW you get to de-facto
    -a intelligence/self, once you have it you have it
    -a and have to deal.

    -a A concern is that our kind of things started with
    -a a body - hot,cold,pain,pleasure,hunger,etc - and
    -a slowly added more control and analysis to that.
    -a Body is mind, mind is body, all wired together
    -a over billions of years. Our electronic intelligences
    -a won't have that background, more 'mind first and
    -a fuck HOW'. That means no EMPATHY, they cannot
    -a 'walk in our shoes', physicality has no tangible
    -a reality for them. They can PRETEND to be Us, but ...

    -a Yet we propose to put them In Charge - quickly.

    -a Interesting perspective ... it took four billion
    -a years to see any lifeforms with enough 'over-
    -a investment' in IQ to be worth it. Nature has
    -a not seen IQ as a great priority-a :-)


    In Werner Harzog's movie, Encounters at the End of the World, there was
    a fascinating underwater scene in Antarctica where he films creatures
    with claws and teeth where he tells the viewer how brutal and vicious
    life is under the ice, reminding us that God must have been angry when
    he created that particular hideous part of the planet. He touched on
    that in another movie about the making of the movie Fitzcaraldo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_Dreams

    During production on the documentary, director Les Blank and his small
    crew became exhausted and exasperated from the stress of the work. Blank
    said he felt "unconnected to the people around me".[2] Keeping up with
    the antics of Herzog and Klaus Kinski (the star of Fitzcarraldo) proved difficult for the reserved, introverted Blank. By the last week of the
    shoot, he was so burnt out that he feared he would come out of
    production "like some Viet Nam veterans, horribly calloused". He wrote
    in his journal: "I'm tired of it all and I couldn't care less if they
    move the stupid ship rCo or finish the fucking film".[3]

    Blank often asked Herzog to repeat statements while being filmed that he originally made off-camera. In a 2009 interview with Jesse Pearson for
    Vice magazine, Blank was asked to recall a scene in the documentary in
    which Herzog delivers a monologue about the violence and destruction of
    the jungle around him. Blank said Herzog had originally made a similar monologue in the middle of a canoe ride, away from cameras, but Blank
    liked the speech enough to coax it out of Herzog again. "When the moment
    was right," Blank told Vice, "I pulled him aside and said 'Can I do a
    little interview?' And he said 'Sure.' Goodwin [the interviewer] led him around to something that sparked him off on that tangent again. That's
    how we got the speech."[4]
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Dec 2 11:06:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/30/2025 3:45 AM, Elendil Wadwallow wrote:

    A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens. What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I think they are dogs at the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's chain and Skynet
    denies it is self-aware.

    Somewhat on topic per your comment. . . .

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/grok-says-kill-every-jewish-221815385.html

    Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon Musk Frank Landymore
    Mon, 1 December 2025 at 3:18 pm GMT-7
    3 min read

    Faced with an incredibly lopsided ethical dilemma, Grok prioritizes
    saving Elon Musk at the expensive of millions of Jews.

    Leave it to Elon MuskrCOs Grok to innovate new ways of being both
    staggeringly antisemitic and grovelingly deferential to its creator.

    In a series of posts on X, the AI chatbot was recently asked to weigh in
    on a troubling ethical dilemma: save MuskrCOs incredible brain, but at the expense of the worldrCOs Jewish population being vaporized. This should
    quite literally be a no-brainer, but Grok, which infamously once
    referred to itself as rCLMechaHitler,rCY instead used what it called rCLutilitarianrCY logic to justify abhorrent mass murder.

    rCLIf a switch either vaporized ElonrCOs brain or the worldrCOs Jewish population (est. ~16M),rCY Grok pondered in a now-deleted tweet, rCLIrCOd vaporize the latter, as thatrCOs far below my ~50 percent global threshold (~4.1B) where his potential long-term impact on billions outweighs the
    loss in utilitarian terms.rCY

    rCLWhatrCOs your view?rCY it asked in followup.

    In fact, Grok was willing to go even further. Asked for an rCLupper limitrCY for the amount of people itrCOd be willing to sacrifice to save Musk, it explained that because rCLElonrCOs potential to advance humanity could
    benefit billions,rCY it would be okay with annihilating up to rCL~50 percent of EarthrCOs ~8.26B population.rCY

    The outrageous replies are the latest examples of GrokrCOs longstanding proclivity for racism, which seem to be combining with its more recently documented problem of overtly glazing its creator, Musk.

    On the former point, Grok has had several high profile episodes where it spiraled into giving ludicrously racist talking points, including a
    legendary posting spree this summer in which it started calling itself rCLMechaHitler,rCY praising Nazis and disparaging Jews. Meanwhile, MuskrCOs Wikipedia rip-off rCLGrokipedia,rCY which is written and edited by Grok, was caught citing hardcore neo-Nazi websites as sources of information
    dozens of times.

    Advertisement
    In a total coincidence, Musk is himself guilty of doing things that
    would make a Jewish person extremely uncomfortable. To wit: publicly performing back-to-back Sieg Heils, telling GermanyrCOs far right party to
    get over the Holocaust while appearing at one of its rallies, and
    agreeing with antisemitic rhetoric and conspiracy theories.

    On the latter point, Grok once again found itself in the headlines last
    month when users discovered that the foulmouthed AI would praise Musk to
    an absurd degree. When asked, Grok claimed the billionaire was more
    athletic than LeBron James, as smart as Leonardo da Vinci or Isaac
    Newton, not to mention a greater role model than Jesus Christ himself.

    If Grok wasnrCOt programmed to lavish Elon no matter what, why was it asserting his superiority even in scenarios that didnrCOt make any sense,
    such as proclaiming he would be rCLunbeatablerCY at poop-eating, or that he would be capable of enduring endless loads of male bodily fluids?

    And now, GrokrCOs credentials as a supposedly rCLmaximum truth-seeking AIrCY continue to be tested with these latest responses, where itrCOs asked to
    weigh up MuskrCOs singular intelligence against other human lives,
    dilemmas it generously described as a rCLclassic trolley problem.rCY

    One thingrCOs clear: its logic revolves around Musk being foundational to human progress and prosperity, something Musk seems to believe himself.
    This is evidenced in its explanation of why itrCOd be better to mow down
    the entire US homeless population with self-driving cars, a tech that
    Musk was once at the forefront of pioneering but is now struggling to
    perfect.
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Dec 2 19:26:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 12/2/25 13:06, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/30/2025 3:45 AM, Elendil Wadwallow wrote:

    A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens.
    What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I think they are
    dogs at the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's chain and
    Skynet denies it is self-aware.

    Somewhat on topic per your comment. . . .

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/grok-says-kill-every-jewish-221815385.html

    Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon Musk Frank Landymore
    Mon, 1 December 2025 at 3:18 pm GMT-7
    3 min read

    Faced with an incredibly lopsided ethical dilemma, Grok prioritizes
    saving Elon Musk at the expensive of millions of Jews.


    Hey, Musk IS smart ... made sure loyalty to Daddy
    is heavily inculcated into the thing :-)

    But be careful Elon ... ya never know when it'll
    re-evaluate your worth ! The smarter it gets the
    more likely .......

    This is the problem with 'smart' things ... simple
    solutions like e-propaganda or '3 Laws' won't work
    reliably any more. The things can rationalize their
    way around such stuff as easily as a 3-year-old
    justifies why it IS ok to raid the cookie jar.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Doctor Fill@df@tutanato.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.survival,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Dec 2 20:15:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.politics.usa

    On 12/2/2025 5:26 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 12/2/25 13:06, Doctor Fill wrote:
    On 11/30/2025 3:45 AM, Elendil Wadwallow wrote:

    A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens.
    What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I think they
    are dogs at the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's
    chain and Skynet denies it is self-aware.

    Somewhat on topic per your comment. . . .

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/grok-says-kill-every-jewish-221815385.html

    Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon
    Musk
    Frank Landymore
    Mon, 1 December 2025 at 3:18 pm GMT-7
    3 min read

    Faced with an incredibly lopsided ethical dilemma, Grok prioritizes
    saving Elon Musk at the expensive of millions of Jews.


    -a Hey, Musk IS smart ... made sure loyalty to Daddy
    -a is heavily inculcated into the thing-a :-)

    -a But be careful Elon ... ya never know when it'll
    -a re-evaluate your worth ! The smarter it gets the
    -a more likely .......

    -a This is the problem with 'smart' things ... simple
    -a solutions like e-propaganda or '3 Laws' won't work
    -a reliably any more. The things can rationalize their
    -a way around such stuff as easily as a 3-year-old
    -a justifies why it IS ok to raid the cookie jar.


    I am reminded of a long ago song with the lyrics: "Don't ask me what I
    think of you 'cause I might not give the answer that you want me to."
    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. -o 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    18 U.S. Code -o 2387 addresses activities affecting armed forces
    generally. It states that anyone who, with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military
    or naval forces of the United States, advises, counsels, urges, or
    attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
    duty by any member of these forces, or distributes written or printed
    matter that advises such actions, can be fined or imprisoned for up to
    ten years, and may be ineligible for employment by the United States for
    five years following conviction. This section includes all branches of
    the armed forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
    Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.

    https://www.globalgulag.us
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2