• Re: *28* Points ???

    From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Nov 26 20:53:07 2025
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    On 2025-11-26, Elendil <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
    pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-26, Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:16:51 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-11-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 11/25/25 19:07, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 18:49:40 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 01:49:52 -0500, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    Trump is pushing a 28-point 'peace' agreement between
    Russia and Ukraine.

    28 ???

    That's 28 ways it can all go to hell.

    How about a, say, THREE point plan ?

    1) Russia, get out of Ukraine.
    2) Pay Ukraine for the damage you've caused and give them back all >>>>>>> their kids and other people you stole.
    3) Go away.

    Or what ?

    And therein is the 'gotcha' :-)

    Too much 'doing' and it's kind of the
    end of the world.

    This is the situation we've made, now
    we're stuck with it.


    This is one reason why war, at least modern war, makes little sense to me. >>>> We invade, fight,people are killed in massive numbers, countries destroyed in
    terms of infrastructure, buildings and so forth and then we shake hands, end the war
    and the world helps rebuild what was destroyed.

    Why?

    Because of certain individuals thirst for power and other individuals
    who can't think for themselves and believe all the nonsense they've
    been told by the power hungry assholes.

    It one of the perils of social structures and lessoning of the
    importance of individuality.

    Indeed.

    To me it's like an adult version of mine is bigger than yours and my dad
    can beat up your dad, etc.

    There can be no other reason. We never seem to learn from our past mistakes, do we?

    You're over-reacting. Ukraine is a neutral city-state unaffiliated with global politics. It's natural Vlad would pick up the 2 pin split. I
    don't understand the sympathy for Ukraine. I understand the animosity towards Russia. He's on the path to becoming a warmonger. But c12823 has
    him all wrong. He makes out Vlad to be a crazed sexual pervert. To me,
    Vlad is simply guilty of disobedience.

    Actually I was referring to wars in general however regarding Ukraine vs Russia they both
    have their problems with corruption and so forth.
    I lean towards Ukraine because Russia started this latest war, but either way
    I would like to see it ended so the world can move on.
    --
    pothead
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    Teach a Democrat to fish and......
    He'll steal your rod
    Take your wallet
    Assault the fish &
    Blame Trump.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Nov 26 21:02:48 2025
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    On 11/26/25 08:16, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-11-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
    On 11/25/25 19:07, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 18:49:40 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 01:49:52 -0500, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>>>
    Trump is pushing a 28-point 'peace' agreement between
    Russia and Ukraine.

    28 ???

    That's 28 ways it can all go to hell.

    How about a, say, THREE point plan ?

    1) Russia, get out of Ukraine.
    2) Pay Ukraine for the damage you've caused and give them back all
    their kids and other people you stole.
    3) Go away.

    Or what ?

    And therein is the 'gotcha' :-)

    Too much 'doing' and it's kind of the
    end of the world.

    This is the situation we've made, now
    we're stuck with it.


    This is one reason why war, at least modern war, makes little sense to me.
    We invade, fight,people are killed in massive numbers, countries destroyed in terms of infrastructure, buildings and so forth and then we shake hands, end the war
    and the world helps rebuild what was destroyed.

    Why?


    Well, mostly because the rebuild gurus think they'll
    make a longer-term buck out of it :-)

    Of course push Vlad or Xi too far, or Trump, and there
    will be no rebuild gurus left. The cockroaches likely
    have a plan, but you won't like it.

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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 21:32:09 2025
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    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 19:07:52 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 18:49:40 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 01:49:52 -0500, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Trump is pushing a 28-point 'peace' agreement between
    Russia and Ukraine.

    28 ???

    That's 28 ways it can all go to hell.

    How about a, say, THREE point plan ?

    1) Russia, get out of Ukraine.
    2) Pay Ukraine for the damage you've caused and give them back all
    their kids and other people you stole.
    3) Go away.

    Or what?

    Or implode.

    Moscow has been selling it's gold stash. In the past year they've
    sold over half of it.

    India is ending its energy and defense relationships with Russia.

    China is reducing its dual use exports to Russia as well as it's
    energy imports.

    Putin's economy continues to shrink and grow more unstable.
    --
    Donald Trump murdered the penny!

    012020298647
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 21:35:12 2025
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    On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 10:31:26 -0600, Elendil wrote:

    You're over-reacting. Ukraine is a neutral city-state unaffiliated with >global politics. It's natural Vlad would pick up the 2 pin split. I
    don't understand the sympathy for Ukraine. I understand the animosity >towards Russia. He's on the path to becoming a warmonger. But c12823 has
    him all wrong. He makes out Vlad to be a crazed sexual pervert. To me,
    Vlad is simply guilty of disobedience.

    He's even more guilty of stupidity. Had he spent his treasure
    diversifying Russia's economy and trading peacefully with his
    neighbors, Russians would be a lot better off.

    As it is, his legacy will be national bankruptcy and the lost of east
    Asian Russia to the Chinese.

    If he's lucky, that's all they'll take.
    --
    Donald Trump murdered the penny!

    012020298647
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  • From chine.bleu@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Nov 29 19:57:59 2025
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 19:07:52 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 18:49:40 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 01:49:52 -0500, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Trump is pushing a 28-point 'peace' agreement between
    Russia and Ukraine.

    28 ???

    That's 28 ways it can all go to hell.

    How about a, say, THREE point plan ?

    1) Russia, get out of Ukraine.
    2) Pay Ukraine for the damage you've caused and give them back all
    their kids and other people you stole.
    3) Go away.

    Or what?

    Or implode.

    Moscow has been selling it's gold stash. In the past year they've
    sold over half of it.

    India is ending its energy and defense relationships with Russia.

    China is reducing its dual use exports to Russia as well as it's
    energy imports.

    Putin's economy continues to shrink and grow more unstable.


    If Putin ends the war, he is given a one bullet retirement. If he does
    not, the rebellion will give him a thousand bullet retirement.

    Poor schmuck. Could not happen to nicer mass murderrer.
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  • From Elendil Wadwallow@horchata12839@gmail.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Nov 30 04:48:38 2025
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    chine.bleu wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 19:07:52 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail
    <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 18:49:40 -0500, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 01:49:52 -0500, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>>>
    Trump is pushing a 28-point 'peace' agreement between
    Russia and Ukraine.

    28 ???

    That's 28 ways it can all go to hell.

    How about a, say, THREE point plan ?

    1)-a Russia, get out of Ukraine.
    2)-a Pay Ukraine for the damage you've caused and give them back all
    their kids and other people you stole.
    3)-a Go away.

    Or what?

    Or implode.

    Moscow has been selling it's gold stash.-a In the past year they've
    sold over half of it.

    India is ending its energy and defense relationships with Russia.

    China is reducing its dual use exports to Russia as well as it's
    energy imports.

    Putin's economy continues to shrink and grow more unstable.


    If Putin ends the war, he is given a one bullet retirement. If he does
    not, the rebellion will give him a thousand bullet retirement.

    Poor schmuck. Could not happen to nicer mass murderrer.


    If Putin is an insect, where is Paul Verhoeven? Donald Trump?
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