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According to a ChatGPT,
there is no mention made of
walking two dao in the phrase
translated as walking two roads.

To be able to read characters
written in a script that isn't
English would be nice. Fortunately,
chat-bots are now able to do t'hat trick.

- thanks! Cheers!
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eye posted:

According to a ChatGPT,
there is no mention made of
walking two dao in the phrase
translated as walking two roads.

To be able to read characters
written in a script that isn't
English would be nice. Fortunately,
chat-bots are now able to do t'hat trick.

The bot continues:

<< The rCLtwo linesrCY or rCLtwo coursesrCY
refer to the two opposing but interdependent ways
of judging or acting rCo e.g., right and wrong, or
life and death rCo and the sage rCLwalksrCY both by
not rigidly choosing one over the other.

ItrCOs a metaphor for living in harmony
with the flux of the world,
not being trapped in dualistic thinking. >>

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aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

eye posted:

According to a ChatGPT,
there is no mention made of
walking two dao in the phrase
translated as walking two roads.

To be able to read characters
written in a script that isn't
English would be nice. Fortunately,
chat-bots are now able to do t'hat trick.

The bot continues:

<< The rCLtwo linesrCY or rCLtwo coursesrCY
refer to the two opposing but interdependent ways
of judging or acting rCo e.g., right and wrong, or
life and death rCo and the sage rCLwalksrCY both by
not rigidly choosing one over the other.

ItrCOs a metaphor for living in harmony
with the flux of the world,
not being trapped in dualistic thinking. >>

- interesting! aye. Cheers!

Thus the sage harmonizes right and wrong, rests in the Heavenly PivotrCo
this is called letting both ways unfold.

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From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism


eye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

According to a ChatGPT,
there is no mention made of
walking two dao in the phrase
translated as walking two roads.

To be able to read characters
written in a script that isn't
English would be nice. Fortunately,
chat-bots are now able to do t'hat trick.

- thanks! Cheers!

The "other" has its own right and wrong;
the "here" has its own right and wrong.
Is there truly an "other's right"? Or is there none?
When "other" and "here" no longer stand as opposites,
that is the Pivot of the Dao.
Abiding at the center of the ring,
one responds to the infinite without strain.
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MiXue fan posted:

The "other" has its own right and wrong;
the "here" has its own right and wrong.
Is there truly an "other's right"? Or is there none?
When "other" and "here" no longer stand as opposites,
that is the Pivot of the Dao.
Abiding at the center of the ring,
one responds to the infinite without strain.

Thanks!
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MiXue fan posted:

Thus the sage harmonizes right and wrong, rests in the Heavenly PivotrCo
this is called letting both ways unfold.

I'm reminded of the story of an old guy
who was using a bucket to water a field.

A younger guy, passing by, suggested he use
a well-sweep that would make life easier.

The tale went on for a spell until
eventually the younger man finds his
teacher, Confucius who said the old
guy knew about some arcane Hun Dun
Ways and yet that wasn't their Way.

And that reminds me of Neo-Daoism
in which a saying said old Lao and
Zhuangzi held on to Wu too much.

Following rules, rites, regulations,
rituals and such can be okay at times.

Daojia might provide a contrast when
such activities are yu-wei and not
particularly what is, natural, wu-wei.

Allowing people to participate in their
nation states of mind, seeing other lands
as foreign and other ways as less than
can be what evokes Daojia for me.

Wei-wu-wei could be life at play.

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MiXue fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

eye posted:

According to a ChatGPT,
there is no mention made of
walking two dao in the phrase
translated as walking two roads.

To be able to read characters
written in a script that isn't
English would be nice. Fortunately,
chat-bots are now able to do t'hat trick.

The bot continues:

<< The rCLtwo linesrCY or rCLtwo coursesrCY
refer to the two opposing but interdependent ways
of judging or acting rCo e.g., right and wrong, or
life and death rCo and the sage rCLwalksrCY both by
not rigidly choosing one over the other.

ItrCOs a metaphor for living in harmony
with the flux of the world,
not being trapped in dualistic thinking. >>

- interesting! aye. Cheers!

Thus the sage harmonizes right and wrong, rests in the Heavenly PivotrCo
this is called letting both ways unfold.

1. Burton WatsonN+e1968N+e
The Complete Works of Chuang Tzu
So the sage harmonizes with both right and wrong and rests in Heaven the Equalizer. This is called walking two roads.

2. James LeggeN+e1891N+e
The Writings of Kwang K|ou
Thus the sagely man blends (all) opinions together, and rests in the common action of Heaven. This is what is called the double aspect (of things).

3. A. C. GrahamN+e1981N+e
Chuang-tzu: The Inner Chapters
Hence the sage reconciles right and wrong and comes to rest in the Heavenly Pivots rCo this is called the Two Courses.

4. Martin Palmer et al.N+e1996N+e
The Book of Chuang Tzu
Therefore the sage harmonises right and wrong and rests in the Heavenly Equality. This is known as rCyallowing both courses to proceedrCO.

5. Hyun H||chsmann & Yang GuorongN+e2007N+e
Zhuangzi: Basic Writings
Thus the sage unites right and wrong and rests in the celestial balance. This is called the dual conduct.
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MiXue fan posted:

1. Burton WatsonN+e1968N+e
The Complete Works of Chuang Tzu
So the sage harmonizes with both right and wrong
and rests in Heaven the Equalizer. This is called walking two roads.

Above geopolitical lines
believed to exist by those
who subscribe to their reality,
Heaven the Equalizer persists
without insisting on duality.

Heaven's Potter's Wheel.

The Pivot of the Dao (oUou?R).

Born simultaneously with Heaven and Earth,
Zhuangzi may have realized how all of life
and wan-wu, the 10k-things, are one.

As such, to distinguish or extinguish
this and that could be to respond
as well as not respond beyond
various lines in De sand.

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