From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism
one mentioned:
... Zhou and
when Daoism first began to be,
after all the fighting was
viewed as being not Dao.
Gemini, when asked about a dynasty
as compared to an empire, had words.
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... the distinction between a "dynasty" and an "empire"
is specific and centers on political structure
rather than just size or power.
While the terms are sometimes used interchangeably
in general conversation, the Zhou is technically classified
as a "dynasty" and not an "empire" for the following reasons:
1. Feudalism vs. Centralized Bureaucracy
The defining difference between the two is how they were governed.
Zhou (Feudalism): The Zhou ruled through a decentralized system
called fengjian, similar to European feudalism.
The king granted land to noble families and relatives who
ruled their own territories semi-independently. They owed
the king military service but largely managed their own laws,
taxes, and local administration.
Empire (Centralization): True "Imperial China" began
with the Qin dynasty in 221 BC. The Qin abolished
the feudal system and replaced it with a centralized
bureaucracy run by appointed officials who could be
fired at the emperor's will.
2. The Title of "King" vs. "Emperor"
The labels reflect the specific titles held by the rulers.
Zhou Rulers: Known as Kings (Wang). They were considered
the "Son of Heaven" but functioned as an overlord of other states
rather than a direct ruler of all individuals.
Imperial Rulers: Starting with the Qin,
rulers took the title Huangdi ("Emperor").
This signaled a shift to a "one ruler,
one king" model where the monarch held
absolute power over a unified,
undivided territory.
3. Lack of Unified Standards
Because the Zhou was a collection
of semi-autonomous states,
it lacked the hallmarks of a unified empire:
Standardization: The Zhou did not have a common currency,
a single legal code, or a standardized writing system
across its entire territory.
Imperial Unity: These standardizations
were only achieved by the Qin Empire,
which unified the script, weights, measures,
and laws to treat the entire land as
a single political and economic unit.
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If memory banks are a thing, iirc,
there was a period between the two.
And in that period was when Daoism
began to be among the 10k-things
as categorized by Han historians.
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