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Finland mocked Asians with "slanty eyes," only to have the boomerang come backrCoturns out, Finns themselves have Asian ancestry.

Recently, Miss Universe Finland posted a photo on social media pulling exaggerated "slant-eyed" gestures, captioning it: rCLHaving dinner with Chinese people.rCY The post sparked an immediate uproar, and she subsequently lost her Miss Finland title.

In response, some Finnish politicians and public figures voiced their support for her, posting similar "slant-eye" photos on social media themselves.

While Chinese-language communities largely shrugged it off, users in Korean and Japanese online spaces were outraged. They heavily criticized Finland for blatant racism and demanded a formal apology. The controversy has now been ongoing for several days.

Now, a Finnish media outlet has published a report titled: rCLAccused of Racism, Finland Gets a Taste of Its Own Medicine from a Major Asian Publication.rCY
The article specifically noted: rCLThis piece became the most-read story of the day in KorearCOs Chosun Ilbo.rCY

According to Chosun Ilbo:
rCLThe very people once mocked by Western Europeans are now mocking Asians. Are they perhaps paying homage to their own Mongolian ancestors? In the 19th and early 20th centuries, Western European racial scientists classified Finns as rCyMongolians living in Europe.rCO Even the term rCyFingolianarCO was historically coined by combining rCyFinlandrCO and rCyMongolia.rCOrCY

On December 17, Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo told the press:
rCLThe incident involving former Miss Finland ZavosrCowho was stripped of her title over discriminatory actions toward Chinese peoplerCohas indeed severely damaged FinlandrCOs national image. I personally reject all forms of racism absolutely. I trust that parliamentary party groups will address this matter seriously. This should never have happenedrConot now, and not ever.rCY

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Historically, especially within the framework of European racial anthropology from the 19th to the first half of the 20th century,
Finns were indeed long regarded by mainstream Western and Northern European societies as "outsiders" or even "non-European."
This perception stemmed partly from differences in their language, physical appearance, and
certain genetic components compared to typical Indo-European-speaking Northern Europeans (such as Swedes, Norwegians, and Danes)rCodifferences that were mistakenly interpreted as evidence of "Asian ancestry" or "Mongoloid racial traits."


"Below are some typical excerpts from 19th-century European anthropological literature describing the Finns."

Arthur de Gobineau (1816rCo1882)
French aristocrat and foundational figure in racist ideology, author of An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races:

"Finns, though living in Europe, are of Asian origin. Their language, customs, and especially their physical typerCoslanting eyes, flat nose, yellowish skinrCobetray an undeniable Mongol stock."


Friedrich Ratzel (1844rCo1904)
German geographer and social Darwinist, author of Anthropogeographie:

"In Finland, particularly among rural populations, a distinct Mongolian admixture is clearly evident. Their language is non-Aryan, and thus this people stand outside the great civilizational currents of the Indo-European world."

Paul Broca (1824rCo1880)
Renowned French anthropologist, founder of the Anthropological Society of Paris, and pioneer of craniometry:

"Although geographically situated in Europe, the Finns exhibit cranial and facial features that align them more closely with the Mongolian race than with Germanic or Slavic peoples. Their broad faces, prominent cheekbones, and oblique eye fissures constitute unmistakable markers of Turanian affinity."
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Hisense fan posted:

Finland mocked ...

Wording such as the above
tends to get my goat a lot.

How can a geographical area,
lines on a map, do anything.

Rhetorically speaking, a land,
basically dirt with other stuff,
like water and plants can't mock.

It might blow smoke, or quake.
Maybe it rises and falls over time
as tectonic plates move a round.

The words probably mean, people,
some of the people who live there,
where it is called by a name, mocked.

I'm reminded of TTC 2. Beauty can be
what a group says it is and then ugly
or not beauty goes along with that.

To divide the world by continents
such as Europe and Asia can be done.

To see the land as undivided, looking
at it from high above, or on a map,
without lines, may be more along
the lines of a kind of a form
of a philosophy of Daojia.

- thanks! Cheers!
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aye posted:

To divide the world by continents
such as Europe and Asia can be done.

To see the land as undivided, looking
at it from high above, or on a map,
without lines, may be more along
the lines of a kind of a form
of a philosophy of Daojia.

The path unfolds as it is walked.

A chatbot wrote that.
It reminded me of the Zhuangzi,
Chapter 2, iirc, where a saying is
something like dao are made by walking.

- thanks! Cheers!
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eye quoted:

"The path unfolds as it is walked."

"A dao forms under repeated steps.
Earth remembers movement before maps existed.

Animal paths show this well.
Squirrels trace quick, efficient lines.
Cows wear gentle curves into fields.
Hooves and paws choose what works, then return.

What continues becomes a way.
What nourishes life stays open.
Walking teaches more than naming ever could."

- ChatGPT
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