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No one knows the nature of the Japanese better than the Chinese, and
the most famous comment on this comes from Zuo Zongtang,
a renowned minister of the late Qing Dynasty


"They understand trivial etiquette but lack a sense of greater righteousness; they are meticulous about minor points of conduct but lack great virtue.
They prioritize superficial formalities over integrity and shame;
they fear power but are not grateful for kindness.
When strong, they inevitably become robbers and invaders;
when weak, they will meekly submit."


Theodore Roosevelt

"The Japanese are the most despicable, shameless nation I have ever encountered."
"I was thoroughly well pleased with the Japanese... but
I am bound to say that the Japs (Japanese) have beaten the Russians (Russia) in being the most treacherous nation I have ever known."



Montesquieu

"The character of the Japanese is abnormal... they are a perverse nation."
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Huawei fans posted:

... snipped unkind words ...

A wonder occurs
to me in terms of why
would someone write about
such a topic in a Daoist group?

- hmmm ...
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aye posted:

Huawei fans posted:

.. snipped unkind words ...

A wonder occurs
to me in terms of why
would someone write about
such a topic in a Daoist group?

Over generalizations generally are
not always valid. As for me, Zen
can be what emerged after Zhuangzi
and Dhyana Buddhism merged in the land.

- hmmm ...

- eye. Thanks! Cheers!
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eye posted:

aye posted:

Huawei fans posted:

.. snipped unkind words ...

A wonder occurs
to me in terms of why
would someone write about
such a topic in a Daoist group?

Over generalizations generally are
not always valid. As for me, Zen
can be what emerged after Zhuangzi
and Dhyana Buddhism merged in the land.

Nation states of mind continue.

Mythologies of how lines are drawn
and people are identified by those lines
remind me of the Yue and setting of yesterday.

I've forgotten the passage in the text.
It was said it was something like, as if.

- thanks! Cheers!
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eye posted:

Nation states of mind continue.

Mythologies of how lines are drawn
and people are identified by those lines
remind me of the Yue and setting of yesterday.

I've forgotten the passage in the text.
It was said it was something like, as if.

<< begin quote from a Gemini >>

The connection
between ancient Yue people
and the Zhuangzi text is found
in a passage in the Zhuangzi
that describes a man
from the state of Song
traveling to Yue.

In the story,
the author uses the Yue people's
distinctive customs of "sheared hair
and tattooed bodies" to show that
different cultures and their practices
are valid, even if unfamiliar.

This passage also serves as a way
to distinguish the Yue from
the more familiar Zhou culture,
according to Cambridge University
Press & Assessment.

<< end of quote >>
<< begin quote from Wikipedia >>

The Baiyue, Hundred Yue,
or simply Yue, were various
ethnic groups who inhabited
the regions of [what is now]
southern China and northern
Vietnam during the 1st millennium
BC and 1st millennium AD.

They were known for their short hair,
body tattoos, fine swords, and naval prowess.

During the Warring States period,
the word "Yue" referred to the state of Yue
in Zhejiang. The later kingdoms of Minyue
in Fujian and Nanyue in Guangdong were both
considered Yue states.

During the Zhou and Han dynasties,
the Yue lived in a vast territory
from Jiangsu to Yunnan, while Barlow
indicates that the Luoyue occupied
the southwest Guangxi and northern Vietnam.

The Book of Han describes the various Yue tribes
and peoples can be found from the regions of Kuaiji to Jiaozhi.

The Yue tribes were gradually assimilated ...

<< end of quote >>

- resistance was futile. aye. Thanks! Cheers!
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aye quoted:

<< from Wikipedia >>

The Baiyue, Hundred Yue,
or simply Yue, were various
ethnic groups who inhabited
the regions of [what is now]
southern China and northern
Vietnam during the 1st millennium
BC and 1st millennium AD.

A theory exists that at least one so-
called Lao Tzu or Old Sir was from
what is now Vietnam given a legend of
him riding a water buffalo. The idea
being how those are found in the south.

I don't know how true that is how-
ever it sounds like a good story to tell.

Eventually becoming the Librarian and
getting tired of wars and slaughter, he
left the northern land area heading west.

Perhaps he started dhyana, which, when
a wave carried a technique back east, it
met up with the Zhuangzi and channa was
born as it bore a trace of Old Sir.

Chan then morphed into Zenna. Zen
hatched and continued to move east
until it got to the west coast of
yet another geographical area.

What kind of kinds argh?
Pirates, because they argh.

- aye. Thanks! Cheers!
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eye posted:

A theory exists that at least one so-
called Lao Tzu or Old Sir was ...
...
Perhaps he started dhyana, which, when
a wave carried a technique back east, it
met up with the Zhuangzi and channa was
born as it bore a trace of Old Sir.

Chan then morphed into Zenna. Zen
hatched and continued to move east
until it got to the west coast of
yet another geographical area.

https://www.sahapedia.org/dhyan-chan-zen-incredible-spiritual-journey

<< The patriarchs who succeeded Bodhidharma
introduced two new elements. One was the idea
of rCysudden enlightenmentrCO associated with Shen Hsiu
and further developed by Hui Neng. It corresponds
to the concept of rCySatorirCO in Japan. >>

Siddhartha's enlightenment differed
from going with the Flow or that Way
as may have been what enlightenment
was for early Daoists.

Other forms, other enlightenments,
could be said to have followed after.

What kind of kinds are there now
could be a question asked
rhetorically at times.

- thanks! Cheers!
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aye posted:

... that Way
as may have been what enlightenment
was for early Daoists.

Other forms, other enlightenments,
could be said to have followed after.

What kind of kinds are there now
could be a question asked
rhetorically at times.

If one is aware of being in the Zone,
which could be said to be how a cook,
chef or butcher, Ting was, that kind,
might be wu-wei or wei-wu-wei, eh.

Suddenly aware, like, wow! And then,
as suddenly, where did it go.

- ya know. thanks! Cheers!
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