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I downloaded the official Ubuntu cheat sheet. If you're interested,
here's the link:

<https://mega.nz/file/zhYRSA6L#eU9g7aU-aSpFaCLSErS9EQbjyb3KLw6xnwWPWPVzXL4>

Ubuntu has made it difficult to download by forcing people to sign uprCoat least that's what I experienced!


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On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:26:53 +0000, Shimon wrote:

I downloaded the official Ubuntu cheat sheet. If you're interested,
here's the link:

<https://mega.nz/file/zhYRSA6L#eU9g7aU-aSpFaCLSErS9EQbjyb3KLw6xnwWPWPVzXL4>

Ubuntu has made it difficult to download by forcing people to sign
uprCoat least that's what I experienced!

Interesting that the document properties indicate it was created with
a proprietary app (Adobe Indesign) but running on Windows, yet ...
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On Wed, 2/18/2026 10:26 PM, Shimon wrote:

I downloaded the official Ubuntu cheat sheet. If you're interested,
here's the link:

<https://mega.nz/file/zhYRSA6L#eU9g7aU-aSpFaCLSErS9EQbjyb3KLw6xnwWPWPVzXL4>

Ubuntu has made it difficult to download by forcing people to sign up|ore4rCYat
least that's what I experienced!

The last page of the document, promotes Ubuntu Pro,
which presumably is part of their support plan for $$.

That's why they want to track you, so they can send you adverts
for Ubuntu Pro. That is why they want you signed up.

Even the Mega page is wired. Those aren't normal Mega responses.

*******

Here is a Ubuntu cheat sheet, before they had a cunning plan.

https://files.fosswire.com/2008/04/ubunturef.pdf

There's no SNAP and no PRO in there...
It even looks like there is no SYSTEMD either.

Document Length - one page.

Paul
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 01:17:47 -0500, Paul wrote:

Here is a Ubuntu cheat sheet, before they had a cunning plan.

https://files.fosswire.com/2008/04/ubunturef.pdf

There's no SNAP and no PRO in there...
It even looks like there is no SYSTEMD either.

systemd didnrCOt exist back then -- not in a production state, anyway.
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Paul wrote:

The last page of the document, promotes Ubuntu Pro,
which presumably is part of their support plan for $$.

1) Ubuntu Pro is free for regular users where you get up to 5 active
instances which gets you latest patches and extended version support for
older releases. $$ is targeted for companies where Canonical does make
their money.

That's why they want to track you, so they can send you adverts
for Ubuntu Pro. That is why they want you signed up.

2) If you go the "personal" Pro route, which is not bad IMHO, the signup
is for how you manage the 5 instances of Pro. The only "tracking" is
each machine get a unique token that is queried to get the Pro updates.
No adverts.

3) For desktop users they have User Friendly documentation directly
accessed <https://documentation.ubuntu.com/desktop/en/latest/tutorial/>

CLI they figure is for servers and not newbies, but it also is freely accessible searching the documentation

<https://ubuntu.com/search?q=Ubuntu+CLI+cheat+sheet>

Find "System Files Ubuntu CLI cheat sheet"

<https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/d00791ae-ubuntu_cli_cheat_sheet_2025.pdf>

HTH
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Jonathan
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Shimon wrote:

I downloaded the official Ubuntu cheat sheet. If you're interested,
here's the link:

<https://mega.nz/file/zhYRSA6L#eU9g7aU-aSpFaCLSErS9EQbjyb3KLw6xnwWPWPVzXL4>

Ubuntu has made it difficult to download by forcing people to sign up|ore4rCYat
least that's what I experienced!

Thanks. are all these applicable to LM?
--
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On Thu, 2/19/2026 5:03 PM, Axel wrote:

Shimon wrote:

I downloaded the official Ubuntu cheat sheet. If you're interested,
here's the link:

<https://mega.nz/file/zhYRSA6L#eU9g7aU-aSpFaCLSErS9EQbjyb3KLw6xnwWPWPVzXL4> >>
Ubuntu has made it difficult to download by forcing people to sign up|ore4rCYat
least that's what I experienced!

Thanks. are all these applicable to LM?

LM does not have SNAP installed by default, but
you can install it if you want. If you did install
it, then the SNAP commands would be part of your
operations manual.

Some of the commands, are shell commands (like bash shell).
You would run into the bash shell in a terminal environment,
in a lot of Linux distros. The lessons you learn about
bash and the shell helpers, are lessons you can reuse elsewhere.

But some other things, might be politics/religion/business-interests
and so those need separate comments about their operation and
whether they're installed or not. For example, Flatpack, I uninstall
that if I find it present, and that's because I believe it should be
optional like SNAP. I noticed some amount of traffic that did not
belong on the box, when I wasn't actually using Flatpack, and
based on that experience, that is on my "uninstall until you want
to use it" list. Normally, softwares are good at sitting
quietly with their hands folded, when not in use, and
that's my mental model of well-behaved software. I don't
want a software minting Bitcoins in their spare time, because
someone installed them.

Paul
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:26:53 +0000, Shimon <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Ubuntu has made it difficult to download by forcing people to sign uprCoat >least that's what I experienced!

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.
An unpardonable sin.
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?
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Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Maybe he means the installer prompt to send system specs ONE TIME after
the install to Canonical, or the crash reports you are also prompted to
send to help in debugging. Note that in each I said *prompt*, you are
given the option each time, and you can inspect the report each time.
Hardly "telemetry" as one gets with other OS's.
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Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 21:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Canonical and Microsoft are business partners and are equally trustworthy/not-trustworthy.
Do you trust Microsoft?

https://www.techspot.com/news/48937-canonical-partners-with-microsoft-azure-to-provide-ubuntu-linux-images.html
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:46:56 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 21:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Canonical and Microsoft are business partners and are equally trustworthy/not-trustworthy.

The question, in case you misunderstood it, is rCLwhere is the telemetry
that has been put in Linux?rCY
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El Kabong wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 21:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Canonical and Microsoft are business partners and are equally trustworthy/not-trustworthy.
Do you trust Microsoft?

https://www.techspot.com/news/48937-canonical-partners-with-microsoft-azure-to-provide-ubuntu-linux-images.html

uh-oh! the mere mention of the word 'Microsoft' make me cringe in fear
and distrust
--
Linux Mint 22.3

"Windows 10 will be the last Windows ever"- Microsoft

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 15:31:39 +1100, Axel wrote:

uh-oh! the mere mention of the word 'Microsoft' make me cringe in
fear and distrust

They contribute a lot to the Linux kernel nowadays. And they use Linux
heavily themselves.

Bwahahaha!!!
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W dniu 24.02.2026 o-a07:12, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro pisze:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 15:31:39 +1100, Axel wrote:

uh-oh! the mere mention of the word 'Microsoft' make me cringe in
fear and distrust

They contribute a lot to the Linux kernel nowadays. And they use Linux heavily themselves.

Bwahahaha!!!

Nu, byed Shaterwort, byed, because he made Linux for lay people. SmyertrCO Shaterwortowi, smyertrCO!
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Paul wrote:

On Mon, 2/23/2026 8:15 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Maybe he means the installer prompt to send system specs ONE TIME after
the install to Canonical, or the crash reports you are also prompted to
send to help in debugging. Note that in each I said *prompt*, you are
given the option each time, and you can inspect the report each time.
Hardly "telemetry" as one gets with other OS's.

I have a simpler definition for this.

"Any form of excessive busywork in the background"

There is tracker and tracker-miner, there can on some distros be
"usage statistics", where as a user I have never noticed the user
community frequent use of certain utilities, *ever* causing those
utilities to be installed by default.

When I booted up Zorin LiveDVD, there was a burst of network activity
(and not the burble of DHCP either). Someone was receiving a good-morning-gram.
And that is an example of busywork. And as busywork, should I be interested in what is shooting up there ? That represents "a load on my mind", just
one more thing to remember. It doesn't matter what's in there, it's
an irritant. If you want to send good-morning-grams, print on the
graphics screen in the form of a notation, what was sent, then fade it out.

Thunderbird has this too, attempts to track how many installs have
been done and so on. One of the prices you pay for this, is an
excessively complex "profiles.ini".

The reason for my definition, is I don't want to get bogged down
into discussions of "well, what could they do with this information?".
That's a waste of the users time, installing walls and fences,
digging trenches, covering holes in the back garden with nylon
outdoor carpet. We shouldn't have to clean up this crap or
intervene. I shouldn't need to be install PI-Holes.

If you install the Diagnostic Data Viewer in Windows, the detail
goes down to the level of whether you copied and pasted in Notepad,
and whether you edited in markup mode (so it is tracking attach rate on
a new feature). At one time, the DDV was entirely useless, just
a shit-storm of numbers. Today, there is a good degree of plaintext,
but as "studies" go, it's still over the top. I would have preferred
to see "logs of crashes and install failures" shooting up to Vortex,
but anything like that is relatively skeletal as "Telemetry". They
do shoot up a snapshot collecting environment details on a major
failure, and on my slow ADSL2 upload, that can take as long as
a hour to complete. If you scroll the DDV, you'll be dizzy in no-time :-)
But to give them credit, it's marginally more transparent, whether it is complete or not.

I think you are comparing apples to oranges. No one is challenging that
MS collects excessive amounts of data that is easily defined as
telemetry. Not only is it voluminous it is also continuous. That simple
is not at all in Linux, and even for Canonical's Ubuntu long ago bad
decision Amazon app. The "extensive" install "telemetry" data that is
collected once that you have the option to send is hardly dizzying not
nor intrusive:

jonathan@nomad:~$ ll -h ~/.cache/ubuntu-report/ubuntu.24.04

-rw-rw-r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 2.0K Sep 23 2024 /home/jonathan/.cache/ubuntu-report/ubuntu.24.04

jonathan@nomad:~$ wc -l ~/.cache/ubuntu-report/ubuntu.24.04

95 /home/jonathan/.cache/ubuntu-report/ubuntu.24.04

Just 95 lines of pretty-print formatted json. That is just 1950 bytes
that wouldn't have been too taxing back when I had dialup.

Telemetry, tracking, privacy, and data theft by corporations is a real
an serious threat, but Linux, even some the "bad" distros are not, (at
least currently), doing it.
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Jonathan
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Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:46:56 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 21:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Canonical and Microsoft are business partners and are equally
trustworthy/not-trustworthy.

The question, in case you misunderstood it, is rCLwhere is the telemetry
that has been put in Linux?rCY

Exactly.
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Take care,

Jonathan
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Axel wrote:

El Kabong wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 21:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Canonical and Microsoft are business partners and are equally
trustworthy/not-trustworthy.
Do you trust Microsoft?

https://www.techspot.com/news/48937-canonical-partners-with-microsoft-azure-to-provide-ubuntu-linux-images.html

uh-oh! the mere mention of the word 'Microsoft' make me cringe in fear
and distrust

MS just has to acknowledge they need Linux to prop-up their sorry-ass OS.
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Jonathan
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On Tue, 2/24/2026 2:18 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Axel wrote:

El Kabong wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 21:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:43:04 -0800, El Kabong wrote:

The guy who runs Canonical put telemetry in Linux.

Where?

Canonical and Microsoft are business partners and are equally
trustworthy/not-trustworthy.
Do you trust Microsoft?

https://www.techspot.com/news/48937-canonical-partners-with-microsoft-azure-to-provide-ubuntu-linux-images.html

uh-oh! the mere mention of the word 'Microsoft' make me cringe in fear
and distrust

MS just has to acknowledge they need Linux to prop-up their sorry-ass OS.

There doesn't seem to be much strategy involved.
Whatever Microsoft thinks they're doing.

As for the thoughts on telemetry, any commercial entity
will eventually succumb and stoop to doing this. That's
not an excuse, just a warning.

It's not a "trust company X" issue, as if each company
must be evaluated somehow (that a privacy failure is
merely a "quirk" or "some kind of mistake"). It is human
nature, and what is expected of people. If we prioritize profit
over all else, what would you expect would happen ?

Everything we own, must eventually be reduced to the level
of television. I haven't had a TV turned on here, for years.
Today, your Korean TV can be listening to you with a microphone,
while that washer in the basement (with an Ethernet connector???)
is racking up network bandwidth usage (off-site!).

It's not a matter of "if" an adverse thing will happen,
it's just a question of "when".

Paul
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