• Trash (Rubbish bin) folder

    From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 5 10:02:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"
    (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch
    to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.
    --
    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 5 10:31:05 2026
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    On 05/02/2026 10:02, Jeff Layman wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin" (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch
    to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    To save time I installed Thunar and that shows a "Wastebasket", so I was
    able to restore the file from that. This is the second major issue I've
    had with this latest Nemo (no folder expanders by default, hidden in a
    new preference was the first). I've never had a problem before with it.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 5 07:14:02 2026
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    On Thu, 2/5/2026 5:31 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 05/02/2026 10:02, Jeff Layman wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"
    (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File
    System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch
    to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    To save time I installed Thunar and that shows a "Wastebasket", so I was able to restore the file from that. This is the second major issue I've had with this latest Nemo (no folder expanders by default, hidden in a new preference was the first). I've never had a problem before with it.

    There is some trash-trivial out there.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/102099/where-is-the-trash-folder

    You can see, there is potential for a numeric UID component to it.
    As well as canonical locations that might not work out.

    Now, in principle, trash has to be anonymized, to prevent collisions
    in the trash location. You cannot store two "some.txt" in there and
    recover both of them, if one over-wrote the other. The details would
    need to be changed, to allow the files to be "preserved" until later.
    And then the question is, what kind of search would work to find it
    with a brute force method. Does listing all the files and
    sorting by time work ? And so on.

    [name@Moon ~]$ ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash
    total 20
    drwx------ 4 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:25 .
    drwxr-xr-x 13 name name 4096 Aug 17 01:10 ..
    drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 files
    drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 16 Aug 16 22:25 metadata

    If I check an LM222, there is only files and info.
    And when I tried to create a collision, by throwing out two files
    with the same name, it appended a ".2" to the end of the root of the name
    plus in the Info folder it used the same for the cataloging of where the file belongs.

    ~/.local/share/Trash/files$ ls -al
    total 8
    drwx------ 2 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 07:03 .
    drwx------ 4 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 06:57 ..
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 07:02 testtest2.2.txt <=== collision test
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:57 testtest2.txt
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:56 testtest.txt

    cat testtest2.2.txt.trashinfo <=== collision test
    [Trash Info]
    Path=/home/bullwinkle/Downloads/somewhere/testtest2.txt DeletionDate=2026-02-05T07:03:11

    It's not an extremely fancy thing.

    So what we learn from the exercise, is we should have "view hidden"
    turned on in the file manager (or attempts to search, will be
    silently hidden!), and when searching we can only search for the
    root part of the missing file, the "testtest2" part and don't attempt
    to find "testtest2.txt" because it might not be there.
    Just look for the root part. It would all depend on if there
    had been a collision, whether one of the files were renamed to avoid
    the collision.

    Paul
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 5 12:57:37 2026
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    On 05/02/2026 12:14, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 2/5/2026 5:31 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 05/02/2026 10:02, Jeff Layman wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"
    (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File
    System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch >>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    To save time I installed Thunar and that shows a "Wastebasket", so I was
    able to restore the file from that. This is the second major issue I've had >> with this latest Nemo (no folder expanders by default, hidden in a new
    preference was the first). I've never had a problem before with it.

    There is some trash-trivial out there.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/102099/where-is-the-trash-folder

    You can see, there is potential for a numeric UID component to it.
    As well as canonical locations that might not work out.

    Now, in principle, trash has to be anonymized, to prevent collisions
    in the trash location. You cannot store two "some.txt" in there and
    recover both of them, if one over-wrote the other. The details would
    need to be changed, to allow the files to be "preserved" until later.
    And then the question is, what kind of search would work to find it
    with a brute force method. Does listing all the files and
    sorting by time work ? And so on.

    [name@Moon ~]$ ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash
    total 20
    drwx------ 4 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:25 .
    drwxr-xr-x 13 name name 4096 Aug 17 01:10 ..
    drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 files
    drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 16 Aug 16 22:25 metadata

    If I check an LM222, there is only files and info.
    And when I tried to create a collision, by throwing out two files
    with the same name, it appended a ".2" to the end of the root of the name plus in the Info folder it used the same for the cataloging of where the file belongs.

    ~/.local/share/Trash/files$ ls -al
    total 8
    drwx------ 2 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 07:03 .
    drwx------ 4 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 06:57 ..
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 07:02 testtest2.2.txt <=== collision test
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:57 testtest2.txt
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:56 testtest.txt

    cat testtest2.2.txt.trashinfo <=== collision test
    [Trash Info]
    Path=/home/bullwinkle/Downloads/somewhere/testtest2.txt DeletionDate=2026-02-05T07:03:11

    It's not an extremely fancy thing.

    So what we learn from the exercise, is we should have "view hidden"
    turned on in the file manager (or attempts to search, will be
    silently hidden!), and when searching we can only search for the
    root part of the missing file, the "testtest2" part and don't attempt
    to find "testtest2.txt" because it might not be there.
    Just look for the root part. It would all depend on if there
    had been a collision, whether one of the files were renamed to avoid
    the collision.

    OK. Thanks for that. It was my /.local/share/Trash folder. I found all
    my deleted files there. BUT I am sure it was never there in previous
    versions, and indeed one of the comments in that ask.ubuntu page states
    that it wasn't in their home folder with Ub 14.

    I've now found the answer by looking at my other laptop which has
    exactly the same version of LM and Cinnamon on it. I'd changed the View
    menu setting for the sidebar from "Places" to "Tree".in the "problem"
    version of Nemo on this laptop. With "Places" the Rubbish Bin appears
    below "File System" and above "Network". I'll now leave it showing as
    it's far easier to get to than drill down into /.local/share/Trash.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 5 14:34:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    Jeff Layman wrote:
    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    I booted a live LM 22.3 Cinn and Nemo 6.6.3 shows a Trash 'dir' (icon)
    in the L pane.

    However, it must not be a conventional one because I can't navigate to a situation where a dir command will show a Trash dir.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 06:35:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin" (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch
    to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    I just booted my Live Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon USB and it showed the Trash folder in Nemo, right where it should be, last in the list. I wonder if this is something that was mangled in 22.3 update?
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 06:47:49 2026
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    On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 05/02/2026 12:14, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 2/5/2026 5:31 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 05/02/2026 10:02, Jeff Layman wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have >>>> a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin" >>>> (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File >>>> System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch >>>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    To save time I installed Thunar and that shows a "Wastebasket", so I was >>> able to restore the file from that. This is the second major issue I've had >>> with this latest Nemo (no folder expanders by default, hidden in a new
    preference was the first). I've never had a problem before with it.

    There is some trash-trivial out there.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/102099/where-is-the-trash-folder

    You can see, there is potential for a numeric UID component to it.
    As well as canonical locations that might not work out.

    Now, in principle, trash has to be anonymized, to prevent collisions
    in the trash location. You cannot store two "some.txt" in there and
    recover both of them, if one over-wrote the other. The details would
    need to be changed, to allow the files to be "preserved" until later.
    And then the question is, what kind of search would work to find it
    with a brute force method. Does listing all the files and
    sorting by time work ? And so on.

    [name@Moon ~]$ ls -al ~/.local/share/Trash
    total 20
    drwx------ 4 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:25 .
    drwxr-xr-x 13 name name 4096 Aug 17 01:10 ..
    drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 files
    drwx------ 2 name name 4096 Aug 16 22:24 info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 16 Aug 16 22:25 metadata

    If I check an LM222, there is only files and info.
    And when I tried to create a collision, by throwing out two files
    with the same name, it appended a ".2" to the end of the root of the name
    plus in the Info folder it used the same for the cataloging of where the file belongs.

    ~/.local/share/Trash/files$ ls -al
    total 8
    drwx------ 2 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 07:03 .
    drwx------ 4 bullwinkle bullwinkle 4096 Feb 5 06:57 ..
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 07:02 testtest2.2.txt <=== collision test
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:57 testtest2.txt
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 bullwinkle bullwinkle 0 Feb 5 06:56 testtest.txt

    cat testtest2.2.txt.trashinfo <=== collision test
    [Trash Info]
    Path=/home/bullwinkle/Downloads/somewhere/testtest2.txt
    DeletionDate=2026-02-05T07:03:11

    It's not an extremely fancy thing.

    So what we learn from the exercise, is we should have "view hidden"
    turned on in the file manager (or attempts to search, will be
    silently hidden!), and when searching we can only search for the
    root part of the missing file, the "testtest2" part and don't attempt
    to find "testtest2.txt" because it might not be there.
    Just look for the root part. It would all depend on if there
    had been a collision, whether one of the files were renamed to avoid
    the collision.

    OK. Thanks for that. It was my /.local/share/Trash folder. I found all
    my deleted files there. BUT I am sure it was never there in previous versions, and indeed one of the comments in that ask.ubuntu page states
    that it wasn't in their home folder with Ub 14.

    I've now found the answer by looking at my other laptop which has
    exactly the same version of LM and Cinnamon on it. I'd changed the View
    menu setting for the sidebar from "Places" to "Tree".in the "problem" version of Nemo on this laptop. With "Places" the Rubbish Bin appears
    below "File System" and above "Network". I'll now leave it showing as
    it's far easier to get to than drill down into /.local/share/Trash.

    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept searching for the lower case "trash."

    I'm kind of curious what would happen, if I dragged the Trash folder into
    the Trash icon in Nemo. It looks like it would let me do it. Would both disappear? (I think I'll try it on a live USB. I'm just curious.)

    I'm happy you found the solution to your issue.
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 13:38:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 06/02/2026 06:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"
    (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File
    System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch
    to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    I just booted my Live Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon USB and it showed the Trash folder in Nemo, right where it should be, last in the list. I wonder if this is something that was mangled in 22.3 update?

    Indeed... As I noted above mangled by me! Thanks to you and Mike E for
    looking at this.

    I think, however, that's being a bit unfair to me. It probably arose
    with my previous issue of trying to find the folder expander arrows,
    which stupidly were hidden by default in 22.3 Nemo in a new pref. I
    eventually found it in Prefs | Views, but may have previously changed
    the Sidebar pane view from "Places" to "Tree" as the latter showed
    expander arrows, and I'd hoped they would also show on the tree displays
    in the other panes.

    I'm not sure what those "Places" folders are. I thought that they might
    be shortcut links to the actual folder, but they don't have any
    "Properties" to check. Some of them are Bookmarks, but not all. This
    partially explains what's going on: <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=277568>
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 10:34:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    RonB wrote:
    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept searching for the lower case "trash."

    My Nemo shows Trash icon; but I cannot find such a directory. There is
    not such in my Home/.local/share dir.

    The 'dir structure' shown in my Nemo is not 'consistent' re the Trash situation.

    I don't yet understand how this works.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 10:42:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    Mike Easter wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in
    ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept
    searching for
    the lower case "trash."

    My Nemo shows Trash icon; but I cannot find such a directory. There is
    not such in my Home/.local/share dir.

    The 'dir structure' shown in my Nemo is not 'consistent' re the Trash situation.

    I don't yet understand how this works.

    I'm seeing that 'some' of the Nemo dir structure icons do NOT correspond conventionally.

    Two examples so far: Trash and Recents

    When I employ the function of examining Properties of those alleged
    'dir/s' I do NOT get the conventional info.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 17:46:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Fri, 2/6/2026 1:42 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in
    ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept searching for >>> the lower case "trash."

    My Nemo shows Trash icon; but I cannot find such a directory. There is not such in my Home/.local/share dir.

    The 'dir structure' shown in my Nemo is not 'consistent' re the Trash situation.

    I don't yet understand how this works.

    I'm seeing that 'some' of the Nemo dir structure icons do NOT correspond conventionally.

    Two examples so far: Trash and Recents

    When I employ the function of examining Properties of those alleged 'dir/s' I do NOT get the conventional info.


    Take a testtest.txt file and throw it in the Trash.

    Now, use Nemo and the search there, to find it. You
    want to search on the root of the word as "testtest"
    to be assured of finding it.

    You can also use the find command from the command line.

    find / -name "*testtest*" -print

    or even

    sudo updatedb
    locate testtest

    If your Trash has been set to directly-delete, then
    there is no need for storage :-) And the Nemo search
    will "fail", because no "mv" was used at all, and
    instead the software used "rm".

    Make sure that you are actually configured to use
    Trash in the "buffered way", for there to be a
    folder sitting there for you.

    Paul
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 15:05:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 2/6/2026 1:42 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in
    ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept searching for
    the lower case "trash."

    My Nemo shows Trash icon; but I cannot find such a directory. There is not such in my Home/.local/share dir.

    The 'dir structure' shown in my Nemo is not 'consistent' re the Trash situation.

    I don't yet understand how this works.

    I'm seeing that 'some' of the Nemo dir structure icons do NOT correspond conventionally.

    Two examples so far: Trash and Recents

    When I employ the function of examining Properties of those alleged 'dir/s' I do NOT get the conventional info.


    Take a testtest.txt file and throw it in the Trash.

    Now, use Nemo and the search there, to find it. You
    want to search on the root of the word as "testtest"
    to be assured of finding it.

    You can also use the find command from the command line.

    find / -name "*testtest*" -print

    or even

    sudo updatedb
    locate testtest

    If your Trash has been set to directly-delete, then
    there is no need for storage :-) And the Nemo search
    will "fail", because no "mv" was used at all, and
    instead the software used "rm".

    Make sure that you are actually configured to use
    Trash in the "buffered way", for there to be a
    folder sitting there for you.

    I've found another way to chase it down; working on the recents issue
    instead of trash.

    The /actual/ directory situation, rather than the way Nemo 'displays'
    the icons is that of:

    /home/mike/.local/share/gvfs-metadata

    ... which contains *binaries* for recent and trash, as well as
    corresponding logs w/ a longish uuid, but it isn't a conventional text
    file as it 'locks up' the text editor if I try to open it that way.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/633955/what-is-gvfsd-metadata

    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=449175
    What is gvfsd-metadata actually good for?
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Feb 6 15:15:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    Mike Easter wrote:
    it isn't a conventional text file as it 'locks up' the text editor if I
    try to open it that way.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/633955/what-is-gvfsd-metadata

    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=449175
    What is gvfsd-metadata actually good for?

    This is better:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVfs
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Feb 7 01:07:45 2026
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    On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 12:57:37 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:

    It was my /.local/share/Trash folder. I found all my deleted files
    there. BUT I am sure it was never there in previous versions ...

    Just idly checking my system, I found I have a directory by that name,
    too. With some junk in it going back a couple of years, even.
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 01:41:22 2026
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    On 2026-02-06, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 06/02/2026 06:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have
    a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin"
    (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File
    System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch >>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    I just booted my Live Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon USB and it showed the Trash >> folder in Nemo, right where it should be, last in the list. I wonder if this >> is something that was mangled in 22.3 update?

    Indeed... As I noted above mangled by me! Thanks to you and Mike E for looking at this.

    I think, however, that's being a bit unfair to me. It probably arose
    with my previous issue of trying to find the folder expander arrows,
    which stupidly were hidden by default in 22.3 Nemo in a new pref. I eventually found it in Prefs | Views, but may have previously changed
    the Sidebar pane view from "Places" to "Tree" as the latter showed
    expander arrows, and I'd hoped they would also show on the tree displays
    in the other panes.

    I'm not sure what those "Places" folders are. I thought that they might
    be shortcut links to the actual folder, but they don't have any
    "Properties" to check. Some of them are Bookmarks, but not all. This partially explains what's going on:
    <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=277568>

    I saw you had solved the issue, shortly after posting my message. Had I read further down first I wouldn't have needed to post.

    Speaking of Nemo, I discovered that (at least in 22.3) the Location Entry is not the default under View -> Toolbar. I don't know when I changed Nemo to show the Location Entry, but I find that much more useful than the Path Bar.
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 01:42:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-06, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in
    ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept searching for >> the lower case "trash."

    My Nemo shows Trash icon; but I cannot find such a directory. There is
    not such in my Home/.local/share dir.

    The 'dir structure' shown in my Nemo is not 'consistent' re the Trash situation.

    I don't yet understand how this works.

    Me either. I just assumed it would always be in the same place. Weird.
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 01:48:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-06, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    My main computer (running LM 21.3 Cinnamon) has the trash folder in
    ~/.local/share/Trash. I had trouble finding it because I kept
    searching for
    the lower case "trash."

    My Nemo shows Trash icon; but I cannot find such a directory. There is
    not such in my Home/.local/share dir.

    The 'dir structure' shown in my Nemo is not 'consistent' re the Trash
    situation.

    I don't yet understand how this works.

    I'm seeing that 'some' of the Nemo dir structure icons do NOT correspond conventionally.

    Two examples so far: Trash and Recents

    When I employ the function of examining Properties of those alleged
    'dir/s' I do NOT get the conventional info.

    Now you've got me curious as to what's going on.
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 01:51:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-06, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Make sure that you are actually configured to use
    Trash in the "buffered way", for there to be a
    folder sitting there for you.

    Paul

    Out of curiosity, where do you change that?
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 06:04:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-08, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2026-02-06, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    Make sure that you are actually configured to use
    Trash in the "buffered way", for there to be a
    folder sitting there for you.

    Paul

    Out of curiosity, where do you change that?

    I figured it out. In Preferences -> Behavior in Nemo.
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 09:40:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 08/02/2026 01:41, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-06, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 06/02/2026 06:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have >>>> a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin" >>>> (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File >>>> System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch >>>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either.

    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the
    Trash folder appears.

    I just booted my Live Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon USB and it showed the Trash >>> folder in Nemo, right where it should be, last in the list. I wonder if this
    is something that was mangled in 22.3 update?

    Indeed... As I noted above mangled by me! Thanks to you and Mike E for
    looking at this.

    I think, however, that's being a bit unfair to me. It probably arose
    with my previous issue of trying to find the folder expander arrows,
    which stupidly were hidden by default in 22.3 Nemo in a new pref. I
    eventually found it in Prefs | Views, but may have previously changed
    the Sidebar pane view from "Places" to "Tree" as the latter showed
    expander arrows, and I'd hoped they would also show on the tree displays
    in the other panes.

    I'm not sure what those "Places" folders are. I thought that they might
    be shortcut links to the actual folder, but they don't have any
    "Properties" to check. Some of them are Bookmarks, but not all. This
    partially explains what's going on:
    <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=277568>

    I saw you had solved the issue, shortly after posting my message. Had I read further down first I wouldn't have needed to post.

    Speaking of Nemo, I discovered that (at least in 22.3) the Location Entry is not the default under View -> Toolbar. I don't know when I changed Nemo to show the Location Entry, but I find that much more useful than the Path Bar.

    I wonder sometimes how any "default" is chosen by the devs.

    With regard to Path Bar or Location Entry, if you have the latter and
    use View | Sidebar | Places and select for example "Recent" from the
    sidebar pane, it shows "recent:///" as the location. What does that
    mean? It's the same thing for Favourites and Trash, but the other
    entries are shown in full, whether in your home folder or root (for
    "File System").

    If now you change the view to "Path Bar" rather than "Location Entry", right-click on what's in the Path Bar in grey, and select "Properties",
    an info box pops up.

    So if you have selected, for example, Documents, it shows:
    Type: Folder (inode/directory)
    Location: /home/(your home folder)

    Now try, for example, Recent. You'll get:
    Type: Folder (inode/directory)
    Location: (blank)

    Try again with Favourites.
    Type: Unknown (application/octet-stream)
    Location: (blank)

    Now with Trash:
    No entry for Type or Location!

    I don't understand this at all. All three different from each other
    using Path Bar, yet all the same using Location Entry.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 18:08:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-08, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 08/02/2026 01:41, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-06, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 06/02/2026 06:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-05, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    22.3 Cinnamon

    I just moved a file to trash and wanted to restore it, but I don't have >>>>> a trash folder showing in Nemo! From what I remember the "Rubbish Bin" >>>>> (that's what it was called in the UK), was the final folder in the File >>>>> System, but it doesn't appear in my 22.3 Nemo.

    Out of interest I moved the Desktop | Desktop Icons | Rubbish Bin switch >>>>> to show it, but there's no sign of the folder on the desktop either. >>>>>
    Could someone please check their 22.3 Nemo and let me know where the >>>>> Trash folder appears.

    I just booted my Live Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon USB and it showed the Trash >>>> folder in Nemo, right where it should be, last in the list. I wonder if this
    is something that was mangled in 22.3 update?

    Indeed... As I noted above mangled by me! Thanks to you and Mike E for
    looking at this.

    I think, however, that's being a bit unfair to me. It probably arose
    with my previous issue of trying to find the folder expander arrows,
    which stupidly were hidden by default in 22.3 Nemo in a new pref. I
    eventually found it in Prefs | Views, but may have previously changed
    the Sidebar pane view from "Places" to "Tree" as the latter showed
    expander arrows, and I'd hoped they would also show on the tree displays >>> in the other panes.

    I'm not sure what those "Places" folders are. I thought that they might
    be shortcut links to the actual folder, but they don't have any
    "Properties" to check. Some of them are Bookmarks, but not all. This
    partially explains what's going on:
    <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=277568>

    I saw you had solved the issue, shortly after posting my message. Had I read >> further down first I wouldn't have needed to post.

    Speaking of Nemo, I discovered that (at least in 22.3) the Location Entry is >> not the default under View -> Toolbar. I don't know when I changed Nemo to >> show the Location Entry, but I find that much more useful than the Path Bar.

    I wonder sometimes how any "default" is chosen by the devs.

    With regard to Path Bar or Location Entry, if you have the latter and
    use View | Sidebar | Places and select for example "Recent" from the
    sidebar pane, it shows "recent:///" as the location. What does that
    mean? It's the same thing for Favourites and Trash, but the other
    entries are shown in full, whether in your home folder or root (for
    "File System").

    If now you change the view to "Path Bar" rather than "Location Entry", right-click on what's in the Path Bar in grey, and select "Properties",
    an info box pops up.

    So if you have selected, for example, Documents, it shows:
    Type: Folder (inode/directory)
    Location: /home/(your home folder)

    Now try, for example, Recent. You'll get:
    Type: Folder (inode/directory)
    Location: (blank)

    Try again with Favourites.
    Type: Unknown (application/octet-stream)
    Location: (blank)

    Now with Trash:
    No entry for Type or Location!

    I don't understand this at all. All three different from each other
    using Path Bar, yet all the same using Location Entry.

    When I click Trash (with the Location bar set in View) I get trash:/// rCo so, yeah, I'm not quite sure why it works that way either. It really doesn't
    show the location, but it gets me to the Trash folder anyhow. (Actually it gets me to the files folder within the ~/.local/share/Trash folder. There's three total folders there, files, expunged and info. So it's all still a mystery to me.)
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Feb 8 10:28:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    RonB wrote:
    So it's all still a mystery to me.)

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Feb 10 03:46:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-08, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    So it's all still a mystery to me.)

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System

    I've bookmarked that page for reading later.
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Feb 10 10:10:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 10/02/2026 03:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-08, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    So it's all still a mystery to me.)

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System

    I've bookmarked that page for reading later.

    Having glanced at it, Easter 2033 seems reasonable... ;-)
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Feb 10 14:11:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 10:10:17 +0000
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 10/02/2026 03:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-08, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    So it's all still a mystery to me.)

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System

    I've bookmarked that page for reading later.

    Having glanced at it, Easter 2033 seems reasonable... ;-)


    I get 2033-04-17, not April 1st.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Feb 10 09:57:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Tue, 2/10/2026 9:11 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 10:10:17 +0000
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 10/02/2026 03:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-08, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    So it's all still a mystery to me.)

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System

    I've bookmarked that page for reading later.

    Having glanced at it, Easter 2033 seems reasonable... ;-)


    I get 2033-04-17, not April 1st.

    Exciting!

    That's how NTFS filenum gets
    exposed as an inode number. And partially how
    NTFS ends up with the feature set it does. Only enough
    of the actual underlying file system is wired up, to
    make it look like stat() is dealing with any other
    file system. That's so how NTFS can be treated like
    an EXT4, you can switch back and forth without having
    to be aware of what is underneath.

    The diagram here does not render properly (SVG), but
    the PNG in the ZIP file is fine. Then you can see how
    important the VFS is (it's near the top of the diagram).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_file_system

    https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wikiDE/images/f/f0/Linux-storage-stack-diagram_v6.2.zip

    Paul


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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Feb 10 19:45:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 10:28:50 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System

    This is a kernel-internal API, only of interest to those creating
    kernel modules to support new filesystems, or otherwise working on
    that low-level code.

    There is a way to add new filesystem support without getting deeply
    into the kernel <https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/fuse/index.html>.
    This is how the NTFS-3g driver works, for example.

    In terms of userland APIs, there is the *nix tradition of rCLeverything
    is a filerCY <https://manpages.debian.org/intro(4)>. To this, Linux adds rCLeverything is a file descriptorrCY (e.g. <https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.eventfd>, <https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#timer-file-descriptors>),
    and also rCLeverything is a filesystemrCY (e.g. <https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/proc.html>, <https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/sysfs.html>).
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 00:20:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 09:57:06 -0500, Paul wrote:

    That's so how NTFS can be treated like an EXT4, you can switch back
    and forth without having to be aware of what is underneath.

    The Linux kernel (and most userland utilities) have no special place
    in their hearts for ext4, or ext3, or NTFS, or any other particular
    filesystem. The VFS layer assumes a common set of POSIX-based
    semantics, nothing more and nothing less. Anything that can hook into
    that will work.

    This is unlike the Windows kernel, where assumptions specific to NTFS
    pervade every part of the system.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 01:25:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Tue, 2/10/2026 7:20 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 09:57:06 -0500, Paul wrote:

    That's so how NTFS can be treated like an EXT4, you can switch back
    and forth without having to be aware of what is underneath.

    The Linux kernel (and most userland utilities) have no special place
    in their hearts for ext4, or ext3, or NTFS, or any other particular filesystem. The VFS layer assumes a common set of POSIX-based
    semantics, nothing more and nothing less. Anything that can hook into
    that will work.

    This is unlike the Windows kernel, where assumptions specific to NTFS
    pervade every part of the system.


    IFS Installable File System (equivalent of FUSE).
    Possibly used by Dokan/Dokany and the early EXT2IFS package.
    Etc.

    You can do all sorts of stuff, but you probably shouldn't.
    Only packages that are popular, and have people who can dig you
    out, should be installed. For example, someone installs Explorer Patcher
    and then what do you do when your box tips over. It's OK if
    you're Kreskin the Mentalist.

    It's the same with any OS, mess around too much... and find out.

    It's even possible, that when ExFAT was added to WinXP via a
    "simple update install", that this was an IFS rather than
    a fundamental addition to the core OS. It had a bit of a
    weird smell to it. They did not add GPT to WinXP, and
    that's because there wasn't a spigot to bolt it on with.
    Whereas adding a filesystem was easy. And IFS is the
    logical answer.

    Paul
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 07:24:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 01:25:19 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On Tue, 2/10/2026 7:20 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    This is unlike the Windows kernel, where assumptions specific to
    NTFS pervade every part of the system.

    IFS Installable File System (equivalent of FUSE).

    Windows can only boot from NTFS. It only supports mount points on
    NTFS. It makes assumptions about the kinds of filesystems permitted on removable versus non-removable media.

    None of these restrictions apply to Linux.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 04:31:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Wed, 2/11/2026 2:24 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 01:25:19 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On Tue, 2/10/2026 7:20 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    This is unlike the Windows kernel, where assumptions specific to
    NTFS pervade every part of the system.

    IFS Installable File System (equivalent of FUSE).

    Windows can only boot from NTFS. It only supports mount points on
    NTFS. It makes assumptions about the kinds of filesystems permitted on removable versus non-removable media.

    None of these restrictions apply to Linux.


    Microsoft claims a lot of things about NTFS. In a lot
    of cases, when an article would come out saying "you can
    only do this on top of an NTFS", someone (small developers)
    would come along and prove the statement wrong.

    I only tend to believe such proclamations, if the
    article happens to include an architectural reason
    for the claim. Sometimes the claim stands, because
    nobody can be bothered to refute it.

    Apple used to do stuff like this too. It would write
    a TN claiming "X filesystem can have 4 billion files,
    500TB partitions, and and...". Then, thee months later,
    another TN would come out "it turns out that only
    16TB partitions are supported". And that's because
    enthusiasts in the community, would find ways to check
    the limits in the actual implementation in front of them.
    I don't know if Apple have learned any lessons from
    this practice or not (of making proclamations that
    aren't actually true).

    We've had to do stuff like that at work. Answer a
    series of questions about a product for an RFQ. The
    entire team (HW+SW) blocks off two weeks of time to answer
    the questions, and you work in teams checking design
    details to make sure no "capabilities" are inflated.
    As an incorrect answer later could lead to a lawsuit.

    Paul
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 11:14:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-10, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 10/02/2026 03:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-02-08, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    So it's all still a mystery to me.)

    Someone said 'in linux everything is a directory'; but some
    'directories' are more 'real' or conventional than others.

    This seems to be a case of an 'operational' directory.

    https://docs.kernel.org/filesystems/vfs.html
    Overview of the Linux Virtual File System

    I've bookmarked that page for reading later.

    Having glanced at it, Easter 2033 seems reasonable... ;-)

    Bright white background and light grey font, always makes me pause before reading. I have no idea why these pages use a grey font instead of a sharp, black one. (Just realized I could use Firefox's "Read View" and toggle to
    dark mode (white on black). Much better for my eyes.
    --
    "Not just insane... Trump insane."
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 07:21:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    RonB wrote:
    Bright white background and light grey font, always makes me pause before reading. I have no idea why these pages use a grey font instead of a sharp, black one. (Just realized I could use Firefox's "Read View" and toggle to dark mode (white on black). Much better for my eyes.

    Besides reader view, which changes that page quite a lot, there is also
    a View menu function to flip from Basic page style to No style.

    Compare that w/ your reader view.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 07:34:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    Mike Easter wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    Bright white background and light grey font, always makes me pause
    before reading. I have no idea why these pages use a grey font
    instead of a sharp, black one. (Just realized I could use
    Firefox's "Read View" and toggle to dark mode (white on black).
    Much better for my eyes.

    Besides reader view, which changes that page quite a lot, there is
    also a View menu function to flip from Basic page style to No style.

    Compare that w/ your reader view.

    Sometimes you can also change your Settings/ Website appearance to a
    dark theme (w/o prior reader view), but in this case the page doesn't
    support it.

    However, that page does have a 'feature' at the bottom of the L panel
    called: This Page - Show Source which provides a 'pure' black text on
    white bg. No html.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Wed Feb 11 23:22:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 04:31:43 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On Wed, 2/11/2026 2:24 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 01:25:19 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On Tue, 2/10/2026 7:20 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    This is unlike the Windows kernel, where assumptions specific to
    NTFS pervade every part of the system.

    IFS Installable File System (equivalent of FUSE).

    Windows can only boot from NTFS. It only supports mount points on
    NTFS. It makes assumptions about the kinds of filesystems permitted
    on removable versus non-removable media.

    None of these restrictions apply to Linux.

    Microsoft claims a lot of things about NTFS. In a lot of cases, when
    an article would come out saying "you can only do this on top of an
    NTFS", someone (small developers) would come along and prove the
    statement wrong.

    Feel free to find counterexamples, then, where Windows was able to
    boot off ext4 or FAT32 or something like that, or where you could set
    up mount points on a non-NTFS volume. Or being able to do RAID on
    hot-pluggable USB devices (I did this once on a Linux system as an
    easy way to demonstrate RAID fault tolerance to the local Linux user
    group).
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 12 04:13:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-02-11, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    Bright white background and light grey font, always makes me pause before
    reading. I have no idea why these pages use a grey font instead of a sharp, >> black one. (Just realized I could use Firefox's "Read View" and toggle to
    dark mode (white on black). Much better for my eyes.

    Besides reader view, which changes that page quite a lot, there is also
    a View menu function to flip from Basic page style to No style.

    Compare that w/ your reader view.

    That's good to know. In this case I like the Reader View better however. I guess I could narrow Firefox and No style might be good...

    ...Okay, No style works pretty well that way. Thanks for the tip.
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Feb 12 04:16:29 2026
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    On 2026-02-11, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    Bright white background and light grey font, always makes me pause
    before reading. I have no idea why these pages use a grey font
    instead of a sharp, black one. (Just realized I could use
    Firefox's "Read View" and toggle to dark mode (white on black).
    Much better for my eyes.

    Besides reader view, which changes that page quite a lot, there is
    also a View menu function to flip from Basic page style to No style.

    Compare that w/ your reader view.

    Sometimes you can also change your Settings/ Website appearance to a
    dark theme (w/o prior reader view), but in this case the page doesn't support it.

    However, that page does have a 'feature' at the bottom of the L panel called: This Page - Show Source which provides a 'pure' black text on
    white bg. No html.

    I like that (probably more than the other two choices). This is how I
    usually write, in jstar (text only). My eyes like that best.

    (I use jstar (JOE WordStar "flavor") in slrn.)
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