• wifi headphones

    From bad sector@forgetski@_INVALID.net to alt.os.linux on Sun Oct 12 09:44:33 2025
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    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and other
    makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old
    Sennheisers, also having once benefitted from several exchanges with one
    of their former chief sound engineers. BUT there is one rub: the cheap
    counts won't pay for dedicated frequencies (or whaaaaatever excuse) so
    that my wifi router is continuously stepping on the headphone. There
    *is* a trick to work around this by starting the headphones first and
    then the wifi but I'm just plain fed up with the hassle!

    TIA






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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Sun Oct 12 16:19:33 2025
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    On Sun, 10/12/2025 9:44 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and other makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old Sennheisers, also having once benefitted from several exchanges with one of their former chief sound engineers. BUT there is one rub: the cheap counts won't pay for dedicated frequencies (or whaaaaatever excuse) so that my wifi router is continuously stepping on the headphone. There *is* a trick to work around this by starting the headphones first and then the wifi but I'm just plain fed up with the hassle!

    TIA

    I would set up one of my Wifi adapters on the computer as
    a hotspot for WIDI, in the hopes that would give the
    communications some priority. But the airwaves are shared,
    and you cannot really "hog" 2.4Ghz and keep it all to yourself.

    And the headphones may not have a selector for 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz.

    If you want "best performance", a simple copper wire gives
    real time performance :-)

    There might be a QOS feature for the Wifi router.
    QOS is Quality Of Service, which is a means of assigning
    a higher priority to a communication.

    Paul
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.os.linux on Mon Oct 13 13:05:24 2025
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    On 13/10/2025 7:19 am, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 9:44 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and
    other makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old
    Sennheisers, also having once benefitted from several exchanges
    with one of their former chief sound engineers. BUT there is one
    rub: the cheap counts won't pay for dedicated frequencies (or
    whaaaaatever excuse) so that my wifi router is continuously
    stepping on the headphone. There *is* a trick to work around this
    by starting the headphones first and then the wifi but I'm just
    plain fed up with the hassle!

    TIA

    I would set up one of my Wifi adapters on the computer as a hotspot
    for WIDI,

    "WIDI"?? Did you miss by one key, Paul, meaning to type "WIFI" instead?? ;-P

    in the hopes that would give the communications some priority. But
    the airwaves are shared, and you cannot really "hog" 2.4Ghz and keep
    it all to yourself.

    And the headphones may not have a selector for 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz.

    If you want "best performance", a simple copper wire gives real time performance :-)

    There might be a QOS feature for the Wifi router. QOS is Quality Of
    Service, which is a means of assigning a higher priority to a
    communication.

    Paul

    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Sun Oct 12 23:00:27 2025
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    On Sun, 10/12/2025 10:05 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 13/10/2025 7:19 am, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 9:44 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and
    other makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old
    Sennheisers, also having once benefitted from several exchanges
    with one of their former chief sound engineers. BUT there is one
    rub: the cheap counts won't pay for dedicated frequencies (or
    whaaaaatever excuse) so that my wifi router is continuously
    stepping on the headphone. There *is* a trick to work around this
    by starting the headphones first and then the wifi but I'm just
    plain fed up with the hassle!

    TIA

    I would set up one of my Wifi adapters on the computer as a hotspot
    for WIDI,

    "WIDI"?? Did you miss by one key, Paul, meaning to type "WIFI" instead?? ;-P


    It is referred to as WiDi in some articles on Miracast.
    The short form is not mentioned here at all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct

    As far as I know, WiDi is limited to 51Mbit/sec operation,
    but I don't have proof of that. I was able to run Miracast
    over it.

    When run as a Hotspot, that gives file sharing via point
    to point Wifi, without any router in the picture. The
    Hotspot has an SSID.

    You can also extend the network by using a Bluetooth to Bluetooth
    connection. That's a relatively recent option enabled in
    Windows, as it was low on their list of things to write
    for the Bluetooth stack.

    The various platforms should all run versions of this.

    One thing that was removed from the standards, was a scheme
    where you could have a Bluetooth to Bluetooth connection, and
    if Wifi adapters were present, a file transfer could
    be "augmented" with Wifi transfer. The Wifi was point to point
    for that. But because that didn't involve the OS enough
    (OS felt left out), they removed that and WiDi is the closest
    equivalent of it. Making it so it only works by clicking
    a Hotspot button, puts the OS back in control (verification
    digits on screen, user presses Yes on each machine and so on).
    The OS also puts a random password up on the screen, and you
    have to write that down (if you happen to notice it). The
    first time, I couldn't figure out where the password went :-)
    Just a bit annoying is all I can say. But the OS was in control.

    Paul
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux on Mon Oct 13 10:05:42 2025
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    On 2025-10-13 05:00, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 10:05 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 13/10/2025 7:19 am, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 9:44 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and
    other makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old
    Sennheisers,

    Me too, but the cushions are gone, almost destroyed. I bought a
    replacement on Amazon; placing them was not easy, and noise isolation is
    not good.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ4TK1LG?th=1

    also having once benefitted from several exchanges
    with one of their former chief sound engineers. BUT there is one
    rub: the cheap counts won't pay for dedicated frequencies (or
    whaaaaatever excuse) so that my wifi router is continuously
    stepping on the headphone. There *is* a trick to work around this
    by starting the headphones first and then the wifi but I'm just
    plain fed up with the hassle!

    TIA

    I would set up one of my Wifi adapters on the computer as a hotspot
    for WIDI,

    "WIDI"?? Did you miss by one key, Paul, meaning to type "WIFI" instead?? ;-P

    I also wondered about that.
    It is referred to as WiDi in some articles on Miracast.
    The short form is not mentioned here at all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct

    Ah.


    As far as I know, WiDi is limited to 51Mbit/sec operation,
    but I don't have proof of that. I was able to run Miracast
    over it.

    When run as a Hotspot, that gives file sharing via point
    to point Wifi, without any router in the picture. The
    Hotspot has an SSID.

    You can also extend the network by using a Bluetooth to Bluetooth
    connection. That's a relatively recent option enabled in
    Windows, as it was low on their list of things to write
    for the Bluetooth stack.

    The various platforms should all run versions of this.

    One thing that was removed from the standards, was a scheme
    where you could have a Bluetooth to Bluetooth connection, and
    if Wifi adapters were present, a file transfer could
    be "augmented" with Wifi transfer.

    It has been removed from the standard? :-o

    The Wifi was point to point
    for that. But because that didn't involve the OS enough
    (OS felt left out), they removed that and WiDi is the closest
    equivalent of it. Making it so it only works by clicking
    a Hotspot button, puts the OS back in control (verification
    digits on screen, user presses Yes on each machine and so on).
    The OS also puts a random password up on the screen, and you
    have to write that down (if you happen to notice it). The
    first time, I couldn't figure out where the password went :-)
    Just a bit annoying is all I can say. But the OS was in control.

    Paul
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From bad sector@forgetski@_INVALID.net to alt.os.linux on Mon Oct 13 09:39:57 2025
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    On 10/13/25 4:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-10-13 05:00, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 10:05 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 13/10/2025 7:19 am, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 9:44 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and
    other makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old
    Sennheisers,

    Me too, but the cushions are gone, almost destroyed. I bought a
    replacement on Amazon; placing them was not easy, and noise isolation is
    not good.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ4TK1LG?th=1

    Same here, the cushion 'surface' film on the replacements is peeling
    off. My last two dogs and myself have all tripped in the wires next to
    my daytime laptop and crashed the transmitter at least 50 times so that
    I just had to fix the *equally flimsy* power-adapter wiring using a
    freakin' microspoke. Many collateral problems with the product but damm
    it the sound is unbeatable :-)



    also having once benefitted from several exchanges
    with one of their former chief sound engineers. BUT there is one
    rub: the cheap counts won't pay for dedicated frequencies (or
    whaaaaatever excuse) so that my wifi router is continuously
    stepping on the headphone. There *is* a trick to work around this
    by starting the headphones first and then the wifi but I'm just
    plain fed up with the hassle!

    TIA

    I would set up one of my Wifi adapters on the computer as a hotspot
    for WIDI,

    "WIDI"?? Did you miss by one key, Paul, meaning to type "WIFI"
    instead?? ;-P

    I also wondered about that.
    It is referred to as WiDi in some articles on Miracast.
    The short form is not mentioned here at all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct

    Ah.

    Paul does have a way of talking down to 'quarters where the ragged
    people go' to quote Simon and Garafunkel. It's as if you were in a
    biology-101 class and having asked a pedestrian question the prof would
    look up from his notes and say:

    "Have you ever heard about the theory of natuaral selection or am I a
    harsh judge of character?"* :-)

    Mind you I should have thought of the 2.4/5ghz split that he raised
    because my router does have both so maybe the answer lies in splitting
    those on a per service basis? No, not for me, I want less involvement
    not more; I may have to just settle for something from Bose with wires
    on it.


    * an actual quote from my theology prof in a class of 400 students
    packed in like sardines and sitting on the hardwood floor of a gymn.


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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux on Mon Oct 13 19:22:37 2025
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    On 2025-10-13 15:39, bad sector wrote:
    On 10/13/25 4:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-10-13 05:00, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 10:05 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 13/10/2025 7:19 am, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 10/12/2025 9:44 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Has anyone here used BOTH high-end Sennheiser wifi headphones and
    other makes of the same 'level'? Any wisdom or comparisons?

    I'm impressed by and VERY happy with both of my 3-4 year old
    Sennheisers,

    Me too, but the cushions are gone, almost destroyed. I bought a
    replacement on Amazon; placing them was not easy, and noise isolation
    is not good.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ4TK1LG?th=1

    Same here, the cushion 'surface' film on the replacements is peeling
    off. My last two dogs and myself have all tripped in the wires next to
    my daytime laptop and crashed the transmitter at least 50 times so that
    I just had to fix the *equally flimsy* power-adapter wiring using a
    freakin' microspoke. Many collateral problems with the product but damm
    it the sound is unbeatable :-)


    I'm going to try with a cushion pair of another brand (there are about a
    dozen in Amazon). The originals are amazingly expensive and don't last.
    If they fail again, I will have to try the originals, but they were out
    of stock the previous time.



    I also wondered about that.
    It is referred to as WiDi in some articles on Miracast.
    The short form is not mentioned here at all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct

    Ah.

    Paul does have a way of talking down to 'quarters where the ragged
    people go' to quote Simon and Garafunkel. It's as if you were in a biology-101 class and having asked a pedestrian question the prof would
    look up from his notes and say:

    "Have you ever heard about the theory of natuaral selection or am I a
    harsh judge of character?"*-a :-)

    Mind you I should have thought of the 2.4/5ghz split that he raised
    because my router does have both so maybe the answer lies in splitting
    those on a per service basis? No, not for me, I want less involvement
    not more; I may have to just settle for something from Bose with wires
    on it.


    * an actual quote from my theology prof in a class of 400 students
    packed in like sardines and sitting on the hardwood floor of a gymn.

    Ggg :-D

    When I was a kid my mother once asked me if the selection theory was
    true. I answered yes. I was going to a catholic school of the
    progressive type.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Mon Oct 13 14:02:10 2025
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    On Mon, 10/13/2025 9:39 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Paul does have a way of talking down to 'quarters where the ragged people go' to quote Simon and Garafunkel. It's as if you were in a biology-101 class and having asked a pedestrian question the prof would look up from his notes and say:

    "Have you ever heard about the theory of natuaral selection or am I a harsh judge of character?"*-a :-)

    Mind you I should have thought of the 2.4/5ghz split that he raised because my router does have both so maybe the answer lies in splitting those on a per service basis? No, not for me, I want less involvement not more; I may have to just settle for something from Bose with wires on it.


    * an actual quote from my theology prof in a class of 400 students packed in like sardines and sitting on the hardwood floor of a gymn.



    Well, I never know to what extent a term is "popular", and I've seen
    references to WiDi when the topic of "what replaces Miracast" come up.

    If I had said Wifi Direct, maybe people would assume this was
    a company on the Internet that sold Wifi stuff :-)

    I'm the only person who uses this stuff, obviously.
    (No Wifi router, but I have Wifi adapters).

    Paul

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.os.linux on Wed Oct 15 22:41:12 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 5:02 am, Paul wrote:
    On Mon, 10/13/2025 9:39 AM, bad sector wrote:

    Paul does have a way of talking down to 'quarters where the ragged
    people go' to quote Simon and Garafunkel. It's as if you were in a
    biology-101 class and having asked a pedestrian question the prof
    would look up from his notes and say:

    "Have you ever heard about the theory of natuaral selection or am I
    a harsh judge of character?"* :-)

    Mind you I should have thought of the 2.4/5ghz split that he raised
    because my router does have both so maybe the answer lies in
    splitting those on a per service basis? No, not for me, I want less
    involvement not more; I may have to just settle for something from
    Bose with wires on it.

    * an actual quote from my theology prof in a class of 400 students
    packed in like sardines and sitting on the hardwood floor of a
    gymn.

    Well, I never know to what extent a term is "popular", and I've seen references to WiDi when the topic of "what replaces Miracast" come
    up.

    If I had said Wifi Direct, maybe people would assume this was a
    company on the Internet that sold Wifi stuff :-)

    I'm the only person who uses this stuff, obviously. (No Wifi router,
    but I have Wifi adapters).

    Paul

    I would probably have accepted something like "WiFiDi".
    --
    Daniel70
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