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On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:

On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)

Sure?

My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector
for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.

Google confirms:

AI Overview
ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps
from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate
system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose problems.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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On Fri, 8/1/2025 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:

On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)

Sure?

My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.

Google confirms:

AI Overview
ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose problems.

OEM boards, like a Dell motherboard, they use a piezo beeper, black in color, the size of a quarter or so. It is soldered to the board.

Retail motherboards use a small speaker, the small speaker is SUPPOSED to be
in the computer case. However, costly fancy computer cases don't have the speaker any more. The speaker is "8 ohm 0.25W" as printed on the back.

This means, users are ripping the speaker out of older computers and
stuffing the speaker into a new computer (while they debug).

My newest PC, is using the beep speaker pulled from an Apple computer :-)
The tones sound so much better, when they come from an Apple Speaker.
The sounds are "richer" :-)

Paul
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On 2025-08-01 15:41, Paul wrote:

On Fri, 8/1/2025 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:

On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)

Sure?

My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.

Google confirms:

AI Overview
ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose problems.

OEM boards, like a Dell motherboard, they use a piezo beeper, black in color, the size of a quarter or so. It is soldered to the board.

Retail motherboards use a small speaker, the small speaker is SUPPOSED to be in the computer case. However, costly fancy computer cases don't have the speaker any more. The speaker is "8 ohm 0.25W" as printed on the back.

Yes. Exactly my experience.

This means, users are ripping the speaker out of older computers and
stuffing the speaker into a new computer (while they debug).

Well, Amazon sold me a bag of such speakers/beepers for a trifle.

My newest PC, is using the beep speaker pulled from an Apple computer :-)
The tones sound so much better, when they come from an Apple Speaker.
The sounds are "richer" :-)

:-DDD
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Cheers, Carlos.
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On 8/1/25 8:02 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-12 06:45, bad sector wrote:

On reboot (NO beeps on the these new boards)

Sure?

My board did not beep, till one day I noticed that there was a connector
for the beeper. I only had to buy beepers to connect there.

Google confirms:

AI Overview
ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI review: For content creators!
The Asus ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI motherboard does not have a built-in speaker for beeps. Instead, it uses a series of short and long beeps
from a connected speaker or buzzer (if one is installed) to indicate
system status or errors during the boot process, similar to other ASUS motherboards. These beeps are part of the AMI BIOS and can help diagnose problems.

The horn used to be connected to pins in the panel group but it's not
there anymore. There are some undocumented pinouts, probably for
testing, one of them you can only get to before installing any of the
larger cpu coolers.

The qLEDs are a very good idea as they provide loads of info
_possibilities_ with their combinations but none of that is documented
either. You get shorter and longer flashes of different coolors but
nothing is written in the manual*. (* word used extremely liberally). I suspect one could write many pages of decoding guidance.

The BIOS display itself also sucks like Electrolux! Why does it have to
be black? Where's the option of getting rid of all the totally idiotic graphical 'smearings'? Too many Darwin laureates in the design cubicles?
I understand and am in no position to totally reject EFI bios but as far
as presentation goes the 'new' interfacing of otherwise traditionally itemizable switches is RIDICULOUS. All of it could fit on one page but
there you are with a 4k monitor and two or three words per 'page'
because no one knows (or gives a shit about) how to compose displays and dialogs anymore.


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