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Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

But The Sopranos came quite late into Jerry Adler's career, as
he actually got his start on Broadway - well, behind the scenes
- in the 1950s, serving as a stage manager on productions of
My Fair Lady, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and more. His stage
managerial duties would even extend to television, working on
the crews of The Tony Awards, Night of 100 Stars II and NBC
60th Anniversary Celebration. Back on stage, he worked his way
up, taking on the position of production supervisor for a number
of shows, most notably The Apple Tree. He would even move into
directing shows.

Jerry Adler didn't really move in front of the camera until
the 1990s, and it was later that decade that he joined the cast
of The Sopranos. Adler would appear in around a third of the
show's episodes, debuting in the pilot and making his final
appearance in season six's "Chasing It", his arc concluding
after his longtime relationship with Tony Soprano ended. A
couple of years ago, Jerry Adler said of his shift from
behind-the-scenes work to being involved in major television
shows, "It was a shock really. After 40 years of working
backstage in the dark to be thrust into the light with people
coming up to me to say hello, calling me 'Hesh' or 'Howard
Lyman' [his The Good Wife / The Good Fight character]. It's
weird but at the same time quite wonderful."

Elsewhere on television, Jerry Adler had a recurring role on
NBC's Mad About You (playing building supervisor Mr. Wicker),
a few spots on Northern Exposure as a rabbi (leaning, as he
did on The Sopranos, into his Jewish upbringing), supporting
roles on short-lived sitcoms Hudson Street and Alrighty Already,
and more. Once The Sopranos ended, Adler's most prominent TV
roles included the aforementioned The Good Wife and Rescue Me,
playing FDNY chief Sidney Feinberg. He, too, had plenty of
movie experience, appearing in films by Woody Allen, Sidney
Lumet, Charlie Kaufman, and more.
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Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

https://www.joblo.com/jerry-adler-dies/

Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as
hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with
Tony if you're not a crook.

That Adler spent 4 decades off stage and behind the scenes and was an
important production manager is quite interesting.

. . .

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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

https://www.joblo.com/jerry-adler-dies/

Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as
hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with
Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?
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Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

https://www.joblo.com/jerry-adler-dies/

Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as
hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with
Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was
a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a
business.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

https://www.joblo.com/jerry-adler-dies/

Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as >>hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with
Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was
a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a business.

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a
business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?
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Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

https://www.joblo.com/jerry-adler-dies/

Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as >>>>hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with >>>>Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was
a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a >>business.

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a
business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

You received your MBA from Mafia U Graduate School of Corruption, did you?
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as >>>>hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with >>>>Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was >>a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a >>business.

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a
business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

You received your MBA from Mafia U Graduate School of Corruption, did you?

Is the Sinaloa Cartel a "business?"
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:10:24 -0000 (UTC), Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com>
wrote:

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as
hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with
Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was >> >>a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a
business.

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a
business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made. There are the dictionaries that are published for everyone to use, that are compiled
by professional linguists, and those agree with you. But they are no
match for the dictionary that floats around in Adam H. Kerman's head.

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David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:10:24 -0000 (UTC), Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com>:

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as >>>>>>>hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with >>>>>>>Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was >>>>>a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a >>>>>business.

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a >>>>business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made. There are the >dictionaries that are published for everyone to use, that are compiled
by professional linguists, and those agree with you. But they are no
match for the dictionary that floats around in Adam H. Kerman's head.

Ooo, another LLM hallucination by the formerly legitimate poster known
as David Carson. Let's note that neither the dictionaries nor linguists
exist.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

https://www.joblo.com/jerry-adler-dies/

Jerry Adler, best known for playing businessman and family
associate Herman "Hesh" Rabkin on The Sopranos, has passed
away. He was 96.

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as
hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with
Tony if you're not a crook.

That Adler spent 4 decades off stage and behind the scenes and was an important production manager is quite interesting.

He was also a great-nephew of the Yiddish-theater patriarch Jacob
Pavlovich Adler (father of Jay,Celia,Julia,Stella,and Luther).

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:10:24 -0000 (UTC), Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com>:

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com> wrote:

Hesh was a businessman? On his good days, perhaps. He was corrupt as >>>>>>>>hell. Except for the restaurant owner, you don't become friends with >>>>>>>>Tony if you're not a crook.

Usury is a business, no?

It's been made a crime in some states, but Hesh, among other things, was >>>>>>a loanshark. It's the threat of violence or death that makes it not a >>>>>>business.

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a >>>>>business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made. There are the >>dictionaries that are published for everyone to use, that are compiled
by professional linguists, and those agree with you. But they are no
match for the dictionary that floats around in Adam H. Kerman's head.

Ooo, another LLM hallucination by the formerly legitimate poster known
as David Carson. Let's note that neither the dictionaries nor linguists exist.

Low Level Machine,or the master's degree in law historically subsequent to
the one rebranded as a doctorate a few decades ago?

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:24:29 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:10:24 -0000 (UTC), Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com>:

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a >>>>>business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made. There are the >>dictionaries that are published for everyone to use, that are compiled
by professional linguists, and those agree with you. But they are no
match for the dictionary that floats around in Adam H. Kerman's head.

Ooo, another LLM hallucination by the formerly legitimate poster known
as David Carson. Let's note that neither the dictionaries nor linguists >exist.

I note that I became illegitimate at about the same time as I stopped
taking Adam H. Kerman serioiusly. What a coincidence.

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David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:24:29 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:10:24 -0000 (UTC), Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com>:

I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a >>>>>>business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made. There are the >>>dictionaries that are published for everyone to use, that are compiled
by professional linguists, and those agree with you. But they are no >>>match for the dictionary that floats around in Adam H. Kerman's head.

Ooo, another LLM hallucination by the formerly legitimate poster known
as David Carson. Let's note that neither the dictionaries nor linguists >>exist.

I note that I became illegitimate at about the same time as I stopped
taking Adam H. Kerman serioiusly. What a coincidence.

Well, no. It was when you posterd that specific bit of nonsense. It was
action you took that had nothing to do with me.
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 01:55:35 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:24:29 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:10:24 -0000 (UTC), Mark Shaw <mshaw@panix.com>: >>>>>>>I don't see how illegality and violence makes a business not a >>>>>>>business. But then again IANAL, so who knows?

It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made. There are the >>>>dictionaries that are published for everyone to use, that are compiled >>>>by professional linguists, and those agree with you. But they are no >>>>match for the dictionary that floats around in Adam H. Kerman's head.

Ooo, another LLM hallucination by the formerly legitimate poster known
as David Carson. Let's note that neither the dictionaries nor linguists >>>exist.

I note that I became illegitimate at about the same time as I stopped >>taking Adam H. Kerman serioiusly. What a coincidence.

Well, no. It was when you posterd that specific bit of nonsense. It was >action you took that had nothing to do with me.

Oh, it was all about you, baby. *You* made not one, not two, but THREE
posts correcting someone else's word usage, when there was nothing
wrong with his usage. I pointed out that *you* were the one in the
wrong. After that, *you* stopped trying to foist *your* own incorrect, idiosyncratic definition of the word "business" into this thread.
*You* gave up on that debate and pivoted to complaining about my
treatment of *you.* Mission accomplished.

Yeah, in the past, I would have responded without making a personal
dig at you from the get-go. And then we would have exchanged three to
five non-personal replies until you told me to go fuck myself. But
I've found this new way of dealing with your errors to be way more
effective. Get used to it.

David Carson
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In article <eio0bklmc6vp1s9ffi3jqjkhotgd9tgukp@4ax.com>,
David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:
...

Yeah, in the past, I would have responded without making a personal
dig at you from the get-go. And then we would have exchanged three to
five non-personal replies until you told me to go fuck myself. But
I've found this new way of dealing with your errors to be way more
effective. Get used to it.

You boys really, really need to either:

1) Get a room and don't post pix online of what happens there.
or:
2) Killfile each other and be done with it.
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That's so sweet...
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Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:

You boys really, really need to either:

1) Get a room and don't post pix online of what happens there.
or:
2) Killfile each other and be done with it.

You appear to be expecting some kind of rational action(s) from a
pair that got bent out of shape when "Nazi" was used to refer to a
regime that disappears its citizens off the streets without trial.
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David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Wed, 27 Aug 2025 01:55:35 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

. . .

I note that I became illegitimate at about the same time as I stopped >>>taking Adam H. Kerman serioiusly. What a coincidence.

Well, no. It was when you posterd that specific bit of nonsense. It was >>action you took that had nothing to do with me.

Oh, it was all about you, baby. . . .

No. It had nothing to do with me. This is unmoderated Usenet. You post
what you choose to. You choose to behave like an adult or immaturely. Your actions are your own responsibility and not the responsibility of others.
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 15:00:19 -0000 (UTC), Invalid
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

You appear to be expecting some kind of rational action(s) from a
pair that got bent out of shape when "Nazi" was used to refer to a
regime that disappears its citizens off the streets without trial.

Are you referring to when _you_ used the word Nazi and I asked you,
with all sincerity, to keep it up, and Adam essentially called you a
troll because of your screenname, and I replied to him that I meant
what I said, and then that was the end of it? And you actually
recorded that as both of us getting "bent out of shape" because you
said Nazi?

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David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Thu, 28 Aug 2025 15:00:19 -0000 (UTC), Invalid <invalid@invalid.invalid>:

You appear to be expecting some kind of rational action(s) from a
pair that got bent out of shape when "Nazi" was used to refer to a
regime that disappears its citizens off the streets without trial.

Are you referring to when _you_ used the word Nazi and I asked you,
with all sincerity, to keep it up, and Adam essentially called you a
troll because of your screenname, and I replied to him that I meant
what I said, and then that was the end of it? And you actually
recorded that as both of us getting "bent out of shape" because you
said Nazi?

I just checked that thread. Yes, you remember it correctly. You were
absolutely the big hero of that thread and Usenet's savior that day.

Another big win for David Carson! Let us all fete you and place upon
your head this laurel wreath.

invalid@invalid.invalid got it wrong. The word was in the obituary of
the Holocaust survivor; he quoted it but didn't say it in followup to
make an off-topic political point. I then made the obvious point to you
that you had been trolled and were troll feeding someone who couldn't be bothered to comment on the deceased.

Expecting either of you to discuss an obituary when posting a followup?
Sure, I was "bent out of shape" and yes, expecting either one of you not
to utter political nonsense was a highly unreasonable expectation on my
part.

I do apologize. From now on, I expect neither one of you to behave like
an adult at any point.
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David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Are you referring to when _you_ used the word Nazi and I asked you,
with all sincerity, to keep it up, and Adam essentially called you a
troll because of your screenname, and I replied to him that I meant
what I said, and then that was the end of it? And you actually
recorded that as both of us getting "bent out of shape" because you
said Nazi?

I recorded it as A) You denying that what's currently going on
in the USA is in any way Nazi-adjacent, making you either blind,
lying or a Nazi and B) Kerman having what the kids used to call
"a spazz" because that's pretty much what he does all the time.
Perhaps "bent out of shape" is less applicable to you than "Nazi
[apologist]" while Kerman can have "bent out of shape" all to himself.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

invalid@invalid.invalid got it wrong. The word was in the obituary of
the Holocaust survivor; he quoted it but didn't say it in followup to
make an off-topic political point. I then made the obvious point to you
that you had been trolled and were troll feeding someone who couldn't be bothered to comment on the deceased.

Saying that the WORDS OF THE DECEASED were correct was both off-topic
and not commenting on her?
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In the previous article, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Another big win for David Carson! Let us all fete you and place upon
your head this laurel wreath.

... and hearty handshake!
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J.D. Baldwin <INVALID_SEE_SIG@example.com.invalid> wrote:

In the previous article, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Another big win for David Carson! Let us all fete you and place upon
your head this laurel wreath.

... and hearty handshake!

J.D. Johnson is right!
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 23:30:25 -0000 (UTC), Invalid
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote:

Are you referring to when _you_ used the word Nazi and I asked you,
with all sincerity, to keep it up, and Adam essentially called you a
troll because of your screenname, and I replied to him that I meant
what I said, and then that was the end of it? And you actually
recorded that as both of us getting "bent out of shape" because you
said Nazi?

I recorded it as A) You denying that what's currently going on
in the USA is in any way Nazi-adjacent, making you either blind,
lying or a Nazi and B) Kerman having what the kids used to call
"a spazz" because that's pretty much what he does all the time.
Perhaps "bent out of shape" is less applicable to you than "Nazi >[apologist]" while Kerman can have "bent out of shape" all to himself.

OK. That actually makes a little bit of sense to me now. Thanks.

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