• Focus on his coffin: James Dobson

    From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to alt.obituaries on Thu Aug 21 13:56:04 2025
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    David S. Bernstein
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    James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most=20 influential voices in the conservative evangelical movement, has died at=20
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  • From noreply@noreply@mixmin.net to alt.obituaries on Thu Aug 21 16:39:41 2025
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    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 13:56:04 +0000, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most
    influential voices in the conservative evangelical movement, has died at
    age 89
    ==========
    https://bsky.app/profile/dbernstein.bsky.social/post/3lwvzwcwlgs2n

    "a.i." are literally taking over the world . . . humans are fast becoming obsolete

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    James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, passed away at the age of 89 on
    August 21, 2025. He was a prominent evangelical Christian leader and psychologist
    known for his influence on family values and conservative social issues. >wyff4.com Wikipedia
    More...
    Overview of Dr. James Dobson
    Dr. James Dobson, a prominent evangelical Christian psychologist and author, >passed away on August 21, 2025, at the age of 89. He was best known for founding
    Focus on the Family, a major Christian ministry established in 1977, which became
    one of the largest evangelical organizations in the world.
    Contributions and Influence
    Key Achievements
    Founder of Focus on the Family: Established in 1977, it provided resources and
    support for families, promoting traditional family values.
    Author: Wrote over 70 books, including titles like The Strong-Willed Child and
    Bringing Up Boys, which have been influential in Christian parenting.
    Media Presence: His radio program, Focus on the Family, was broadcast on
    thousands of stations worldwide, reaching millions of listeners.
    Political Involvement
    Advisor to Presidents: Dobson served as an advisor to five U.S. presidents,
    influencing policies related to family and social issues.
    Advocacy: He was known for his opposition to abortion and LGBTQ+ rights,
    advocating for traditional family structures.
    Legacy
    Dr. Dobson's work has left a lasting impact on American evangelical culture and
    family dynamics. His teachings and writings continue to influence many Christian
    families today.
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    Title Forbidden Planet
    Release Year 1956
    Director Fred M. Wilcox
    Runtime 98 minutes
    Language English
    Budget $1,968,000
    Box Office $2,765,000
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  • From Louis Epstein@le@lekno.ws to alt.obituaries on Thu Aug 21 17:47:43 2025
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    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
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    David S. Bernstein
    --@dbernstein.bsky.socia

    James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most influential voices in the conservative evangelical movement, has died at
    age 89

    ========== https://bsky.app/profile/dbernstein.bsky.social/post/3lwvzwcwlgs2n

    Not to be confused with James Robison (born 1943) who has had his
    own evangelical-conservative moments of notoriety.

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  • From Invalid@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.obituaries on Thu Aug 21 21:09:29 2025
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    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most
    influential voices in the conservative evangelical movement, has died at
    age 89

    It's 100% guaranteed that he collected CSAM.
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  • From Dave Garrett@dave@compassnet.com to alt.obituaries on Fri Aug 22 02:40:11 2025
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    In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.2508211354570.19338@panix1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...

    [Blue post]

    David S. Bernstein
    -@dbernstein.bsky.socia

    James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and one of the most influential voices in the conservative evangelical movement, has died at
    age 89

    ========== https://bsky.app/profile/dbernstein.bsky.social/post/3lwvzwcwlgs2n
    "One reason why we don?t kill is because we are not used to it. I never
    killed anybody, but I have done just the same thing. I have had a great
    deal of satisfaction over many obituary notices that I have read. I
    never got into the habit of killing. I could mention the names of many
    that it would please me if I could read their obituaries in the paper in
    the morning."
    --Clarence Darrow, 1922
    Darrow may have said it in 1922, but the sentiment is evergreen. I can't
    say that Dobson was at the top of my personal list of people whose
    obituaries it would please me to read, but he'd certainly have been in
    the top 10.
    --
    Dave
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  • From Invalid@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.obituaries on Fri Aug 22 14:21:24 2025
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    Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com> wrote:

    Darrow may have said it in 1922, but the sentiment is evergreen. I can't
    say that Dobson was at the top of my personal list of people whose obituaries it would please me to read, but he'd certainly have been in
    the top 10.

    Dobson wrote that if you're a father who's worried that your son might be
    gay, you should shower with him so he can see that your penis is larger
    than his. You know, totally normal and non-pedo stuff.

    To be fair, he was apparently quoting someone else, but clearly
    approved of the idea.

    Anyone who thinks that's an exaggeration is strongly encouraged to
    perform a simple search. <https://rlstollar.com/2025/07/04/how-dads-penis-cures-homosexual-kids-according-to-james-dobson>
    is a reasonable starting point.
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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to alt.obituaries on Fri Aug 22 14:34:50 2025
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    [snip]

    an appropriate obit:

    https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster?giftLink=260d3de36d51e61dffae5d127702b85e

    <https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster?giftLink=260d3de36d51e61dffae5d127702b85e>
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  • From noreply@noreply@mixmin.net to alt.obituaries on Fri Aug 22 16:36:53 2025
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    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 14:34:50 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    [snip]
    an appropriate obit: >https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster?giftLink=260d3de36d51e61dffae5d127702b85e

    recommend using tor browser to search unfamiliar or suspicious links first, e.g. this webpage appears to match url "james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster" (all dead humans are saints . . . it's only the living that are evil-doers)

    (using Tor Browser 14.5.6) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=defector.com%2Fjames-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster >...
    https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster
    James Dobson Is Dead, Was A Monster
    By Albert Burneko
    4:14 PM EDT on August 21, 2025
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    James Dobson was a nasty dude. He liked to beat children and dogs with a belt >and to rain misery and punishment on the vulnerable; we know all of this about >him because he said as much in public, repeatedly, over a long and rancid public
    life. He enlisted a whole bunch of Ideology--patriarchy, social conservatism, >utterly fake upside-down Christianity--in service of those basic motivations, not
    only to justify his own appetite for and personal acts of sadism and domination,
    but to cast punishment and predation as far out into the world as he could >manage. He studied psychology and the Bible so that he could borrow their >authority and instrumentalize them to do widespread cruelty more effectively. He
    was oriented to evil, at vast scale, by continual lifelong choice. It was his >calling, and he made it his job.
    What a guy like James Dobson does, and what James Dobson did for his whole adult
    life, is offer people--white men primarily, but not exclusively--a rhetorical >framework for doing evil and feeling good about it. Stand right here and look >exactly there, he said, and psychology says it's OK for you to beat your >children, that when they cry for more than two minutes of the beating, it is >because they are bad and not because you are hurting them; you should beat them
    harder for crying until they stop. Stand right here and look exactly there, and
    tradition says your wife should have no will of her own. Stand right here and >look exactly there, and love of country says society should press its boot onto
    the poor and marginalized and crush them until they die. Didn't you always hate
    them? Sure you did. Religion says right here that you are right to. He blew >softly on a stupid and seething population's resentments, its will to power, its
    lust to punish those who complicate their desires by having lives of their own,
    and watched those appetites stick up like the hairs on your arm, or glow like >charcoal in a fire. It feels good. He tempts you with the promise that every >cruel, fearful, punitive impulse you have aligns with The Way Things Are Supposed
    To Be, and that it is even your grim duty is to indulge them. In this respect, >James Dobson was very much like Satan.
    In American society, there is a lot of money and power in the business of being
    very much like Satan. Dobson became one of the most important figures in American
    conservatism in the 1970s; through his organization Focus on the Family, which he
    ran for nearly 30 years, Dobson exerted huge influence over the tides of American
    right-wing evangelical Protestantism as the latter exploded into perhaps the most
    powerful force in the country's religious life and politics. The Family Policy >Alliance, which he founded in 2004, only made formal the vast lobbying power >Dobson and his media machine already exerted within Republican politics. In this
    way Dobson warred against virtually every concerted movement in his lifetime >working toward making this country kinder, more just, more equitable, or more >merciful. He also fought against efforts to protect the environment and >responsibly steward the world's natural resources, because he was a nasty guy >motivated by the thrill of doing evil with impunity and for no other reason >whatsoever.
    Anyway, he is dead now. He died on Thursday in Colorado Springs, at the age of >89. The world is a much worse place as a result of his life's work; it would be a
    better place had he never been born. If he did not want people to rejoice at his
    death, maybe he should not have spent an entire lifetime working for and >justifying their pain and suffering. He preached that there is a hell, and that
    the wicked go there. He lived his life as though he did not believe it, or >anything else.
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  • From Invalid@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.obituaries on Fri Aug 22 17:41:15 2025
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    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

    an appropriate obit:

    <https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster?giftLink=260d3de36d51e61dffae5d127702b85e>

    A beautiful work of art, thank you.
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  • From Dave Garrett@dave@compassnet.com to alt.obituaries on Fri Aug 22 20:52:24 2025
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    In article <1089v6a$dca$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says...

    [snip]

    an appropriate obit:

    https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster?giftLink=260d3de36d51e61dffae5d127702b85e

    <https://defector.com/james-dobson-is-dead-was-a-monster?giftLink=260d3de36d51e61dffae5d127702b85e>

    "The world is a much worse place as a result of his life's work; it
    would be a better place had he never been born."

    Outstanding. I am reminded of the obituary of a prominent historian
    written by another prominent historian, in which the latter didn't pull
    any punches. A commenter objected on the grounds that one shouldn't
    speak ill of the dead, and the obit author responded that it was the job
    of a historian to speak ill of the dead.
    --
    Dave
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