• Orange City Council to weigh call for federal agents to show ID in the city

    From Out With Them@deathpenalty@illegal.aliens to alt.law-enforcement, alt.society.liberalism, oc.general, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns on Thu Jul 31 13:39:51 2025
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    The Orange City Council is set to consider on Tuesday, July 22, a
    resolution affirming the cityAs support for law enforcement transparency,
    a discussion that has taken on new urgency amid a wave of federal
    immigration raids that have swept through Orange County this summer.

    The resolution, proposed by Councilmembers Arianna Barrios and Ana
    Gutierrez, calls on all federal law enforcement officers and agents
    operating in the city to wear clearly visible identification and to avoid using face coverings or disguises during public interactions.

    It follows a recent split on the council over whether to post online
    resources for immigrant families.

    The proposed resolution would say oface coverings and lack of visible identification pose significant risk to local law enforcement who must
    discern between legitimate immigration enforcement actions and the
    publicAs reasonable fear of bounty hunters, who are not authorized federal agents.o

    Earlier this month, the Santa Ana City Council also weighed a similar ordinance that would require officers to show visible ID and prohibit face coverings. That item was ultimately delayed to a future meeting.

    Staff there said the city likely could not enforce such rules on federal agents, with Santa Ana City Attorney Sonia Carvalho adding, oIf weAre
    giving direction to any of our staff that says you shall enforce this law
    or you shall interfere, they may view that as obstructing a federal investigation.o

    There are also ongoing efforts at the federal and state levels to require
    ICE agents to unmask and display clear identification.

    The Orange City Council has a busy agenda on Tuesday.

    The council is also set to decide on whether to allow the California Fire Museum to temporarily transform the cityAs old fire headquarters into a
    museum and outreach center.

    The proposed minimum one-year agreement would let the nonprofit operate a temporary exhibit at the long-vacant fire station on South Grand Street,
    near the heart of the cityAs historic district. City staff said the
    building has sat unused for nearly three years since the fire department
    moved its headquarters to a new building on Chapman Avenue.

    oWe were looking at tearing it down and building a parking lot,o City
    Manager Tom Kisela told the council in April. oThe cost of that at this
    point is right around $1.5 million to $1.6 million. I donAt think that is
    a prudent expenditure of funds at this point.o

    The city is facing a general fund budget deficit of nearly $2 million.

    The proposed license agreement would allow the nonprofit to run a omuseum
    on wheels,o showcasing vintage fire trucks, photos and equipment while
    also offering community safety programs. The group behind the proposal u
    Call to Adventure, a nonprofit affiliated with the California Fire Museum
    u plans to eventually open a permanent location in the Irvine Great Park.

    oWe feel this is a natural fit for the historic district,o said Hiddo Horlings, the groupAs president. oWeAre looking at this facility as an incubator for the permanent facility. We can bring in some of our exhibits
    and really prove some of the things that we want to do in the facility
    weAre going to build.o

    Under the proposed agreement, the group would pay the city $1 for the year
    and take full responsibility for maintaining and operating the building
    oas is.o They would be required to use only the first floor, cover
    utilities including electricity, gas, water, internet and waste disposal
    and perform safety improvements. Either side could cancel the agreement
    with 60 daysA notice.

    The Orange Police Department would still be allowed to use the site as a staging area during city events.

    Another high-profile item on TuesdayAs agenda is a proposed Memorandum of Understanding with Milan REI, the developer behind long-debated plans for
    the Sully Miller site in East Orange.

    The agreement lays out a general path for developing several properties
    owned by Milan, including 22 single-family homes on a property near Mabury Ranch and a 30-unit residential project on the current equestrian arena
    site on East Santiago Canyon Road, while converting the former Sully
    Miller pit into open space using clean fill.

    The council is also expected to review a budget report prepared by Grant Thornton, the outside accounting firm contracted to evaluate OrangeAs
    fiscal health and operational costs. The report is part of the cityAs
    ongoing efforts to balance long-term spending amid rising costs.

    A separate item on the agenda involves a set of proposed cost-saving
    measures submitted by one of the cityAs labor groups. The proposal,
    according to city staff, is intended to support oongoing fiscal planning
    and operational adjustments.o

    The Orange City Council will meet at 6 p.m. on Tuesday at City Hall.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2025/07/21/orange-city-council-to-weigh-call- for-federal-agents-to-show-id-in-the-city/

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  • From Scout@me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net to alt.law-enforcement,alt.society.liberalism,oc.general,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns on Thu Jul 31 10:26:22 2025
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    "Out With Them" <deathpenalty@illegal.aliens> wrote in message news:e2bf3179a2f05d2422956f2d61da3ea6@dizum.com...
    The Orange City Council is set to consider on Tuesday, July 22, a
    resolution affirming the city's support for law enforcement transparency,
    a discussion that has taken on new urgency amid a wave of federal
    immigration raids that have swept through Orange County this summer.

    The resolution, proposed by Councilmembers Arianna Barrios and Ana
    Gutierrez, calls on all federal law enforcement officers and agents
    operating in the city to wear clearly visible identification and to avoid using face coverings or disguises during public interactions.

    They can pass it.. doesn't mean a thing as federal agents aren't subject to local or state laws while engaged in their roll as federal agents.



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