• Mystery files

    From Jim the Geordie@Jim@geordieland.co.uk to alt.html on Thu Nov 13 11:41:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
    and 'mail.php'.
    I didn't put them there and they are not in my local site.
    Are they important, essential or can I delete them.

    Jim the Geordie
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  • From Jukka K. Korpela@jukkakk@gmail.com to alt.html on Thu Nov 13 17:03:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
    and 'mail.php'.
    I didn't put them there and they are not in my local site.
    Are they important, essential or can I delete them.

    I asked Grok about this (using your words as such), and it said:

    Delete both files immediately.
    manifest.php and mail.php are not legitimate WordPress (or any standard
    CMS) core files, and if you didnrCOt upload them, they are almost
    certainly malicious backdoors planted by a hacker.

    Why These Files Are Dangerous

    mail.php
    Commonly used by attackers to send spam emails from your server.
    Often contains code to abuse PHPrCOs mail() function or connect to
    external SMTP servers.
    Can get your server IP blacklisted and your hosting account suspended.

    manifest.php
    Frequently used as a web shell or admin panel for hackers.
    Allows remote code execution, file uploads, database access, etc.
    Often disguised with fake comments like // WordPress cache manifest to
    avoid detection.



    Immediate Actions (Do This Now)

    Delete both files via FTP/cPanel File Manager (do not open or view them
    in a browser).
    Scan your entire site with a malware scanner:
    Use Wordfence (free version is fine) or Sucuri SiteCheck.
    Or upload phpMalwareScanner via SSH.

    Change all passwords:
    Hosting account
    FTP/SFTP
    WordPress admin
    Database

    Update everything:
    WordPress core
    Themes (especially nulled/pirated ones)
    Plugins

    Check file permissions:
    Folders: 755
    Files: 644
    wp-config.php: 600

    Look for other suspicious files (common locations):text/wp-includes/ /wp-content/uploads/
    /wp-content/themes/[your-theme]/
    /wp-admin/Look for:
    Files with random names (e.g., index.php in wp-includes)
    Recently modified core files
    Base64-encoded PHP code



    How Did This Happen?
    Common causes:

    Outdated WordPress, plugin, or theme (especially nulled themes)
    Weak passwords (admin, FTP, database)
    File upload vulnerability (e.g., in a form or plugin)
    Compromised computer (keylogger, infected local site)


    After Cleanup

    Install Wordfence or iThemes Security.
    Enable 2FA on WordPress and hosting.
    Disable file editing in wp-config.php:phpdefine('DISALLOW_FILE_EDIT', true); Consider a clean reinstall of WordPress core files (keep wp-content and wp-config.php).


    Summary




















    FileSafe?Actionmail.phpNODELETEmanifest.phpNODELETE
    You did NOT upload them raA Someone else did raA They are backdoors.
    Act fast. Your site is compromised until these are removed and the entry
    point is closed.1,9sRapide
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to alt.html on Thu Nov 13 18:37:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    On 13/11/2025 15:03, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
    Jim the Geordie wrote:

    When checking my uploaded website files I found two files
    'manifest.php' and 'mail.php'.
    I didn't put them there and they are not in my local site.
    Are they important, essential or can I delete them.

    I asked Grok about this (using your words as such), and it said:

    Delete both files immediately.
    manifest.php and mail.php are not legitimate WordPress (or any standard
    CMS) core files, and if you didnrCOt upload them, they are almost
    certainly malicious backdoors planted by a hacker.

    Why These Files Are Dangerous

    mail.php
    Commonly used by attackers to send spam emails from your server.
    Often contains code to abuse PHPrCOs mail() function or connect to
    external SMTP servers.
    Can get your server IP blacklisted and your hosting account suspended.

    manifest.php
    Frequently used as a web shell or admin panel for hackers.
    Allows remote code execution, file uploads, database access, etc.
    Often disguised with fake comments like // WordPress cache manifest to
    avoid detection.



    Immediate Actions (Do This Now)

    Delete both files via FTP/cPanel File Manager (do not open or view them
    in a browser).
    Scan your entire site with a malware scanner:
    Use Wordfence (free version is fine) or Sucuri SiteCheck.
    Or upload phpMalwareScanner via SSH.

    Change all passwords:
    Hosting account
    FTP/SFTP
    WordPress admin
    Database

    Update everything:
    WordPress core
    Themes (especially nulled/pirated ones)
    Plugins

    Check file permissions:
    Folders: 755
    Files: 644
    wp-config.php: 600

    Look for other suspicious files (common locations):text/wp-includes/ /wp-content/uploads/
    /wp-content/themes/[your-theme]/
    /wp-admin/Look for:
    Files with random names (e.g., index.php in wp-includes)
    Recently modified core files
    Base64-encoded PHP code



    How Did This Happen?
    Common causes:

    Outdated WordPress, plugin, or theme (especially nulled themes)
    Weak passwords (admin, FTP, database)
    File upload vulnerability (e.g., in a form or plugin)
    Compromised computer (keylogger, infected local site)


    After Cleanup

    Install Wordfence or iThemes Security.
    Enable 2FA on WordPress and hosting.
    Disable file editing in wp-config.php:phpdefine('DISALLOW_FILE_EDIT',
    true);
    Consider a clean reinstall of WordPress core files (keep wp-content and wp-config.php).


    Summary


    FileSafe?Actionmail.phpNODELETEmanifest.phpNODELETE
    You did NOT upload them raA Someone else did raA They are backdoors.
    Act fast. Your site is compromised until these are removed and the entry point is closed.1,9sRapide

    Thank you.
    I have removed the files and done a check with Sucuri Sitecheck.
    It is not a Wordpress site.
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to alt.html on Fri Nov 14 12:06:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 17:03:38 +0200, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

    Change all passwords:
    Hosting account
    FTP/SFTP
    WordPress admin
    Database

    I'd suggest also changing the password for the email used to register the
    web hosting.
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.html on Sat Nov 15 14:59:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
    and 'mail.php'.
    I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
    Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

    Jim the Geordie

    (Message also sent to alt.html)

    "Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
    preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
    Web pages before a user sees them."

    From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

    Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
    did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
    tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along, particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
    upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

    (Message also sent to alt.html)

    Surely you know better than to do that! If your article is relevant
    to two newsgroups, you should crosspost, not start new threads in
    multiple newsgroups.
    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.html on Sun Nov 16 00:38:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    On 15/11/2025 22:59, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
    and 'mail.php'.
    I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
    Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

    Jim the Geordie

    (Message also sent to alt.html)

    "Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
    preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
    Web pages before a user sees them."

    From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

    Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
    did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
    tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along, particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
    upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

    (Message also sent to alt.html)

    Surely you know better than to do that! If your article is relevant
    to two newsgroups, you should crosspost, not start new threads in
    multiple newsgroups.

    Sorry. I thought it was the other way round :o?
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.html on Sun Nov 16 06:00:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    On 2025/11/16 0:38:48, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    On 15/11/2025 22:59, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php' >>> and 'mail.php'.
    I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
    Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

    Jim the Geordie

    (Message also sent to alt.html)

    "Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
    preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
    Web pages before a user sees them."

    From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

    Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
    did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
    tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along,
    particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
    upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

    Presumably Jim will have tried out his web files locally before
    uploading them (one should always!); if they worked thus without the
    .php files, then presumably they don't need them. That's not to say he
    _should_ delete them - I agree, asking his hosters sounds like a good
    idea - I just don't think doing so will break his website _for that
    reason_.>>
    (Message also sent to alt.html)

    Surely you know better than to do that! If your article is relevant
    to two newsgroups, you should crosspost, not start new threads in
    multiple newsgroups.

    Sorry. I thought it was the other way round :o?

    No, it's as Stan said: crossposting is always better than posting
    separate threads; then anyone in either 'group can see the contributions
    made by people in either, which can be useful to both, if the original crosspost was a good idea (which in this case sounds like it was, though
    I wasn't aware of alt.html and don't know what it's about, but suspect
    it is). I see Stan has added it; hopefully the folks there will follow
    this thread rather than the extra one.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    An act like Morecambe and Wise happens once in a lifetime. Why did it
    have to happen in mine?
    - Bernie Winters quoted by Barry Cryer, RT 2013/11/30-12/6
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  • From Mark Lloyd@not.email@all.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.html on Sun Nov 16 23:12:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.html

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 06:00:39 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    [snip]

    Presumably Jim will have tried out his web files locally before
    uploading them (one should always!);

    For that reason, when I started using PHP I installed my own server
    (Apache on Linux, since that closely resembles the public host).

    if they worked thus without the
    .php files, then presumably they don't need them. That's not to say he _should_ delete them - I agree, asking his hosters sounds like a good
    idea - I just don't think doing so will break his website _for that reason_.>>

    I don't see added files (of any type) with my host. I do see an added
    cookie (apparently for their load balancer).

    [snip]
    --
    39 days until the winter celebration (Thursday, December 25, 2025 12:00
    AM for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "There is not one single established religion that an intelligent,
    educated man can believe." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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