• Certificate problem with e-s?

    From maser@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Sat Jul 19 10:54:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    Using seamonkey, getting

    "Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does
    not match the serverrCOs certificate."

    Port 563. Port 119 just grinds forever. The e-s support
    newsgroup is not carried by mixmin. The e-s status page
    shows all green.

    Anyone else seeing issues?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.free.newsservers on Sat Jul 19 17:03:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    maser <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Using seamonkey, getting

    "Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does
    not match the serverrCOs certificate."

    Port 563. Port 119 just grinds forever. The e-s support
    newsgroup is not carried by mixmin. The e-s status page
    shows all green.

    Anyone else seeing issues?

    Ray just issued a new checkgroups and there was a mismatch. The problem
    should be fixed now. Once the solution propogates with an update to control.ctl, ask mixmin to rerun checkgroups and
    eternal-september.support should be created. In the meantime, it turns
    out that I learned that eternal-september.config is the place to discuss administration of the eternal-september.* hierarchy.

    If you need to communicate directly with Ray on these issues, then post
    to the eternal-september.* group directly on news.eternal-september.org
    which you may do without an account. Ray is unlikely to see the issue
    you raise here.
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  • From maser@invalid@invalid.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Sat Jul 19 11:13:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    maser <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Using seamonkey, getting

    "Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does
    not match the server|ore4raos certificate."

    Port 563. Port 119 just grinds forever. The e-s support
    newsgroup is not carried by mixmin. The e-s status page
    shows all green.

    Anyone else seeing issues?

    Thanks for the response.

    Ray just issued a new checkgroups and there was a mismatch. The problem should be fixed now. Once the solution propogates with an update to control.ctl, ask mixmin to rerun checkgroups and

    Uh, how do I "ask mixmin to rerun checkgroups" ;)

    eternal-september.support should be created. In the meantime, it turns
    out that I learned that eternal-september.config is the place to discuss administration of the eternal-september.* hierarchy.

    If you need to communicate directly with Ray on these issues, then post
    to the eternal-september.* group directly on news.eternal-september.org
    which you may do without an account. Ray is unlikely to see the issue
    you raise here.

    Well, can't post there at the moment nor even read
    because of the cert issue.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.free.newsservers on Sat Jul 19 17:34:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    maser <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    maser <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Using seamonkey, getting

    "Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does
    not match the server's certificate."

    Port 563. Port 119 just grinds forever. The e-s support
    newsgroup is not carried by mixmin. The e-s status page
    shows all green.

    Anyone else seeing issues?

    Thanks for the response.

    Ray just issued a new checkgroups and there was a mismatch. The problem >>should be fixed now. Once the solution propogates with an update to >>control.ctl, ask mixmin to rerun checkgroups and

    Uh, how do I "ask mixmin to rerun checkgroups" ;)

    Email message? In mixmin's own support group?

    eternal-september.support should be created. In the meantime, it turns
    out that I learned that eternal-september.config is the place to discuss >>administration of the eternal-september.* hierarchy.

    If you need to communicate directly with Ray on these issues, then post
    to the eternal-september.* group directly on news.eternal-september.org >>which you may do without an account. Ray is unlikely to see the issue
    you raise here.

    Well, can't post there at the moment nor even read
    because of the cert issue.

    You don't need an account to post that article! Don't authenticate the certificate! Just do it the old fashioned way without certificates.
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  • From noreply@noreply@mixmin.net to alt.free.newsservers on Sat Jul 19 19:02:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 10:54:08 -0600, maser <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >Using seamonkey, getting
    "Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does
    not match the serverAs certificate."
    Port 563. Port 119 just grinds forever. The e-s support
    newsgroup is not carried by mixmin. The e-s status page
    shows all green.
    Anyone else seeing issues?

    you're right, mixmin doesn't carry any of the eternal-september.* hierarchy:

    (using Tor Browser 14.5.4)
    https://www.mixmin.net/active
    ...
    esp.test 0000000628 0000000625 y
    esp.test-moderado 0000000000 0000000001 m
    esp.varios 0000000009 0000000010 y
    essug.copt 0000000000 0000000001 y
    essug.misc 0000000001 0000000001 y
    essug.telco 0000000000 0000000001 y
    ---------------------------------------------- "eternal-september" missing(?) >eug.access.video 0000000000 0000000001 y
    eug.arts.photography 0000000000 0000000001 y
    eug.bbs.excelsior 0000000000 0000000001 y
    eug.comp.sys.macintosh 0000000000 0000000001 y
    eug.config 0000000000 0000000001 y
    ...

    not sure about posting, but for read-only access, these public nntp servers
    all carry eternal-september.* (probably some other free servers have it too)

    freenews.netfront.net
    news.alphared.net
    news.blueworldhosting.com
    news.dizum.net
    news.neodome.net
    news.novabbs.org
    nntp.csiph.com
    paganini.bofh.team

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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to alt.free.newsservers on Tue Jul 22 08:51:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On 07/19/2025 12:54, maser wrote:
    Using seamonkey, getting

    "Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does
    not match the serverrCOs certificate."

    Port 563. Port 119 just grinds forever. The e-s support
    newsgroup is not carried by mixmin. The e-s status page
    shows all green.

    Anyone else seeing issues?

    He switched from SSL to TLS. Does your newsreader support TLS?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Tue Jul 22 20:57:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:51:38 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    He switched from SSL to TLS. Does your newsreader support TLS?

    Well, he ruined it for Agent as well...

    <https://i.postimg.cc/255DhQ3V/es-ssl-agent.png>
    --
    s|b
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Tue Jul 22 21:20:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:51:38 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    He switched from SSL to TLS. Does your newsreader support TLS?

    He said it's been like that since 2022. Why is it a problem now?
    --
    s|b
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to alt.free.newsservers on Tue Jul 22 17:55:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On 07/22/2025 15:20, s|b wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:51:38 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    He switched from SSL to TLS. Does your newsreader support TLS?

    He said it's been like that since 2022. Why is it a problem now?


    In the E-S newsgroup he said it was done recently. It all worked with
    SSL until a week or so ago.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ralph Fox@-rf-nz-@-.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 11:16:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:57:23 +0200, s|b wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:51:38 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    He switched from SSL to TLS. Does your newsreader support TLS?

    Well, he ruined it for Agent as well...

    <https://i.postimg.cc/255DhQ3V/es-ssl-agent.png>


    news.eternal-september.org is working here in Agent, with
    'The server requires a secure connection.'


    (Agent is configured to allow TLS1.2 or TLS1.3).

    (The current certificate for news.eternal-september.org is valid
    from Jul 20 07:14:48 2025 GMT to Oct 18 07:14:47 2025 GMT.)
    --
    Kind regards
    Ralph Fox

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfjLnwn4y78J+SkPCfjLfwn4y68J+MiA==?=Jen=?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfjLnwn4y78J+SkPCfjLfwn4y68J+MiA==?= Dershmendenderer =?UTF-8?B?8J+SkPCfjLvwn4y68J+MufCfjLvwn5KQ8J+Mt/CfjLo=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Qtuesmw==?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfjLnwn4y78J+SkPCfjLfwn4y68J+MiA==?=@root@127.0.0.1 to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 12:05:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:16:16 +1200, LO AND BEHOLD; Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> determined that the following was of great
    importance to Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> and subsequently decided to
    freely share it with us in
    <ls608kpvrhpdaf0pd1bdhj3a8dbe9vm8qq@4ax.com>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:57:23 +0200, s|b wrote: =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:51:38 -0400, badgolferman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= He switched from SSL to TLS. Does your newsreader support TLS?
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Well, he ruined it for Agent as well...
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <https://i.postimg.cc/255DhQ3V/es-ssl-agent.png>
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= news.eternal-september.org is working here in Agent, with 'The server
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= requires a secure connection.' =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (Agent is configured to allow TLS1.2 or TLS1.3).
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (The current certificate for news.eternal-september.org is valid from
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Jul 20 07:14:48 2025 GMT to Oct 18 07:14:47 2025 GMT.)
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    Have you tried a more recent newsreader from the last two decades?
    --

    "Whereas I CAN post non-sequiturs, as I prove with my reply" - Kent Bradley Wills in Message-ID: <acpb6khjfsur6le8u914f7a37asce7hjcu@4ax.com>

    Kent/Kenito Wills is a lying fraud and a world-class K0ok:

    <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php? fbid=10226575407554944&set=pb.1339154565.-2207520000&type=3>

    "A very special Happy Son's Day to my most beloved son, Kent. This
    picture was taken before you lost over 100 lbs."

    "Ken|!to Wills (https://www.facebook.com/kwills3)
    ItrCOs not my birthday. ThatrCOs in January."

    --

    Kent celebrating his 49th birthday after losing 100 lbs https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10226575407554944&set=pb.1339154565.-2207520000&type=3
    Fred A Wills
    A very special Happy Son's Day to my most beloved son, Kent. This picture was taken before you lost over 100 lbs.

    Vangie Hansen
    Happy Birthday Kent!!!??

    Dottie Wilkinson Dunlap
    Happy birthday!

    Ken|!to Wills
    ItrCOs not my birthday. ThatrCOs in January.

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw
    Kent Bradley Wills DOB Jan 8, 1969 Felony Garage Burglar used teen as accomplice

    AI guy in suit that Kent/Kenito identifies as: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10231572239674019&set=a.1603583254411

    https://www.facebook.com/kwills3
    Ken|!to Wills (-U-|-+-u-e-+)
    1.4K followers rCo 0 following

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    "Claiming that I "refuse to respect pronouns" is dead wrong. I respect them with everyone but "Jen" and "their" ilk, because "they" are a phony." - Scott Doty AKA Creon AKA Vallor AKA Doc Hammerhead declares why he ironically reserves the "right" to misgender others just like his MAGA bigot cohorts are wont to in Message-ID: <l54g7pF27huU2@mid.individual.net>


    Message-ID: <nistjjhili8963p9l65oi962r3p4mktej5@4ax.com>
    " And yet, one can still see the headers.
    If you weren't so stupid, you would know how. I will try, and
    likely fail, to dumb it down to your intellectual level.
    To the right of the post there are three dots. Click on them. A
    few options will appear. Click on "Show original message" and follow
    the instructions as best your learning disability will permit.
    If you still can't see the headers, there is nothing more I can
    do. I cannot dumb this down any more than I have." - Kenito Wills, stupider than shit-stupid. (See: https://ibb.co/MVsRGqN)

    "It's just like you to read all that, and come up a sick and clueless response like that one, totally unrelated to the point. It must get confusing to be intelligent enough to "sit at the best reading table in school," and fail to cobble together a basic understanding of what you've just read. The nasty side of you always manages to take control to guard your fragile ego, which explains why you never get along with people, and get visitors like Red Elephant who take the time and trouble to come by and embarrass you..." - <MPG.41696ec8ecc18ea4989796@usnews.blocknews.net> Jimbo responds to a yes/no question exactly as one might expect him to.

    "Bullshit! You salivate over every word I write, then beg for more. Then when you realize that I've put you in another hole you can't worm your way out of... even if you did "sit at the best reading table in elementary school," YOU revert to pedo lames, because that's the best you can do. In fact, no one here has any interest in your obsession with pedo lames but you, because you're intellectually weak. In fact, you seem suspiciously obsessed with that topic. Maybe some day we'll find out why." - <MPG.4169de194a070345989798@usnews.blocknews.net> No Jim, I am not "obsessed" with what you did and concealed and continue to backpedal from.

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/6FaoS9bawDI/m/Wdupq7BHaSkJ
    "I've spoken against CPS many times. That I realize that they were 100% correct in regards to you doesn't mean I'm pro-CPS." - Kent Wills doesn't like Child Protection Services getting in his way of abusing children.

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/AmluvRraNjg/m/gufYNdgK3E8J
    "Greg has made it very clear he likes little girls. And not in a sexually healthy way." - Kent Wills believes that there's a "sexually healthy" way to be a pedophile.

    "I'm actually glad it's out in the open now, it's a lot of weight to bear. Some will graciously accept that, and some probably won't. It makes it real easy to know who's worth regarding as a friend. Those few remaining haters hide behind socks... I wonder why?" - Checkmate AKA Auntie Tranny <youdaman@betamail.corn> AKA "Rick Sabian" AKA "Morphing Fuckwit" AKA "automatic tranny" AKA "jen der queer" AKA "livelong@and.prosper" AKA "FOAD <foad@grnail.corn>" AKA "Destiny <faghaitur@bucket.list>" AKA "DAVID KEETING <Squiggles@ass.worm>" AKA "f4c3411 <f3c4L@f37l5h.corn>" AKA "<"Hunter's Dildo <RumPPumPPa@uPPa.yOOaSS>" >" AKA "Mustafa Sheboygan" AKA "Peter, the Booty Judge" <root@127.0.0.1> AKA "Mund Harmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "Mundharmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "% <%@hotmale.com>" AKA "Checkmate <trouble@soon.corn>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@MOUTH.ORGAN>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@127.O.O.1>" AKA "Tard Wrangler <youknowit@alphamale.corn>" hates when people hate pedo rapists. He wants friends who like pedo rapists. Write that down and don't forget it! <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/2VcCBNwMdeo/m/A0wpvxZRAAAJ>

    "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

    "Yeah, but you think everybody's Greg. There are a couple people here who can't resist responding to everything the aSSwurm or the Pussy Willow says. It does me no good to plonk aSSwurm and Pussy Willow if I still have to wade through a hundred inane posts a day involving those two assholes, so now I've plonked the chronic responders as well. They'll figure it out, and then they can make a choice... exchange stupid drivel with those two, or have more intelligent and interesting conversations with me. I know damned well Greg got sick of all that shit, and now I'm sick of it too. Those who choose to get led around by the lowest common denominator are fucking up AC and every other group they play that game in. If that's the kind of Usenet they want, they can wallow in the same slop as the two retards elsewhere, because they're only contributing to fucking this group up too. I can take or leave this shit, because I have plenty to keep me occupied with my room addition project, and it's a hell of a lot more rewarding than exchanging baby talk with the likes of the aSSwurm. May his fucking worthless AIDS-infested carcass drop fucking dead ASAP and quit wasting oxygen. To sum it up, talk to those two idiots elsewhere, or they'll probably be the only people left to talk to here." One can only presume that Jim and Creon/Vallor have solved this problem and are together in a private chat "having more intelligent and interesting conversations" instead of these "Civil" calls for shunning and authoritative control of discussion. As Seen on TV : <MPG.35cd7d50e1b224b1994604@news.altopia.com>

    "I'm pretty sure all gods are fictional, I'm smart enough to not proclaim I know this." - Kwills is only smart enough to doubt himself while arguing that a belief in imaginary made-up gods can't just be ignored as "mental illness" in <mo4q0j9tcqjt68s039loiacrbarihsh9i5@4ax.com>

    "If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker." -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Trying to diminish others doesn't make you look any better. In fact, it does quite the opposite. Why are you always so bitter and angry? Do you have AIDS or something like so many other tranny girls do?" -James "Checkmate" Gorman in <MPG.405409befd41f28898969d@test.blocknews.net>

    "You should see my archive on you" -James "Checkmate" Gorman teases us with his "dosser" in <MPG.3eea81b23145043b98c338@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Sorry, nothing to see here. The joint wasn't as bad as they say, but I'm not looking to go back. I'm a model citizen, clean as a whistle. I've owned my own home for 12 years, owned my own business almost as long, don't bother anyone and they don't bother me. You have nothing in any "police report" pertaining to me. Don't you think they would have "come a-knockin" a long time ago if they had any reason to? You're delusional and paranoid, and I have to wonder why.

    Oh... I should mention that there are a LOT of trannies in prison. I don't know why, but there are. The State even has to give them hormone shots for their tiddies at taxpayer's expense, and they wear bras and panties. I found everything about them revolting. That's why the whole "Bubba" thing is almost completely a myth, except in cell living. That shit wouldn't fly in a 100-man dorm, but trust me, those little trollops find ways to serve the willing when the lights go out. You see something, you keep your mouth shut about it because that way you don't get in a wreck. I never partook in such activities because the whole idea is just repulsive. I think that's a big part of what I don't like about you. I've seen how they act and I've talked to a few... total drama queens in every sense." -James "Checkmate" Gorman reminisces about prison in <MPG.3ceb37c2eddbaff98b07a@usnews.blocknews.net>

    "Not true. I've seen square waves on the oscilloscope from some certain generator. Square waves can be created from other than sine waves. Sine waves aren't everything (or anything you sick pervert %), I think that's the point you are missing. - Mathemagician "Lane Larson" in <939d6741-df96-5f2e-a444-b6dfd77de09e@stoat.inhoin.edu> seems to argue that square wave generators must use Fourier transforms "of course" to generate "almost" square waves... in his feeble attempt to quash my assertion that "square waves do not exist in reality" in post <=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DKWuXdYTXCQ5ApC$@88.203.236.221=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>.

    "Colour me fanboi, oh yes indeed. I'm a fanboi who is proudly content to be just that." - snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) in <1qx4ikk.c8jzw919si6cmN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 20:36:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:16:16 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

    news.eternal-september.org is working here in Agent, with
    'The server requires a secure connection.'

    Retrieving headers from grc.* newsgroups now result in the same error.

    (Agent is configured to allow TLS1.2 or TLS1.3).

    Where, how? Can't find it in the Help files. Do you know what changed?
    It was working fine a few days ago.
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 20:42:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:16:16 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

    (Agent is configured to allow TLS1.2 or TLS1.3).

    This is what ChatGPT said:

    Here's what's happening:

    Microsoft has recently been disabling TLS 1.0 and 1.1 by default in
    modern Windows versions, including 24H2 updates.

    If Fort|- Agent 8.00 doesn't support TLS 1.2 or TLS 1.3 or if itrCOs configured to use older protocols, connections to Usenet servers that
    now require newer TLS versions may fail.

    (I'm using W11 24H2.)
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 21:01:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:16:16 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

    (Agent is configured to allow TLS1.2 or TLS1.3).

    Ralph Fox wrote (in eternal-september.*):

    <quote>

    This (error 80090302) is the error which Agent would give me with E-S,
    if Agent did not have the AGENT.INI config change (below) to make it
    support TLS1.2 and TLS1.3.

    -a *-a Google Groups:-a -a <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent/c/mJmtMSUqp6M>
    -a *-a Narkive:-a -a -a -a -a <https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/35h3yv8s/notice-agent-and-ssl>
    -a *-a Usenet Archives:-a <https://www.usenetarchives.com/view.php?id=alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent&mid=PHA4aHB1Z2xuYjB0b3Qyb290M29iN204bjFrOTQwa2ZnY2xANGF4LmNvbT4>
    -a *-a Message-ID: -a -a -a <news:p8hpuglnb0tot2oot3ob7m8n1k940kfgcl@4ax.com>

    </quote>

    (Tnx again, Ralph!)

    I'm using W11 24H2, so I changed the setting in AGENT.INI to

    AllowedSSLProtocols=10880

    No more errors for eternal-september.*, but grc.* now results in this
    SSL error: 80090308.
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 21:01:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:55:09 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    In the E-S newsgroup he said it was done recently. It all worked with
    SSL until a week or so ago.

    I guess you're using W11 as well? Apparently, there was an update
    concerning TLS.
    --
    s|b
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 20:25:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    s|b wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:55:09 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    In the E-S newsgroup he said it was done recently. It all worked
    with SSL until a week or so ago.

    I guess you're using W11 as well? Apparently, there was an update
    concerning TLS.

    Xananews is self contained and portable. I run it from a thumb drive.
    The SSL .dlls are in its own directory. Unfortunately it seems to be
    abandoned again. First the author, then the enthusiasts. I can't seem
    to find its forum anymore.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 17:31:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 7/23/2025 3:01 PM, s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:16:16 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

    (Agent is configured to allow TLS1.2 or TLS1.3).

    Ralph Fox wrote (in eternal-september.*):

    <quote>

    This (error 80090302) is the error which Agent would give me with E-S,
    if Agent did not have the AGENT.INI config change (below) to make it
    support TLS1.2 and TLS1.3.

    -a *-a Google Groups:-a -a <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent/c/mJmtMSUqp6M>
    -a *-a Narkive:-a -a -a -a -a <https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/35h3yv8s/notice-agent-and-ssl>
    -a *-a Usenet Archives:-a <https://www.usenetarchives.com/view.php?id=alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent&mid=PHA4aHB1Z2xuYjB0b3Qyb290M29iN204bjFrOTQwa2ZnY2xANGF4LmNvbT4>
    -a *-a Message-ID: -a -a -a <news:p8hpuglnb0tot2oot3ob7m8n1k940kfgcl@4ax.com>

    </quote>

    (Tnx again, Ralph!)

    I'm using W11 24H2, so I changed the setting in AGENT.INI to

    AllowedSSLProtocols=10880

    No more errors for eternal-september.*, but grc.* now results in this
    SSL error: 80090308.


    80090308

    "If the component is configured to connect to the remote host in
    implicit SSL mode, but the server is expecting explicit SSL,
    the SSL handshake will fail with this message."

    In some cases, a client .ini file needs "implicit=false".
    No idea whether this is a common feature of manually-adjusted clients.

    Paul


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  • From Ralph Fox@-rf-nz-@-.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Thu Jul 24 10:07:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 17:31:32 -0400, Paul wrote:
    On Wed, 7/23/2025 3:01 PM, s|b wrote:

    No more errors for eternal-september.*, but grc.* now results in this
    SSL error: 80090308.


    80090308

    "If the component is configured to connect to the remote host in
    implicit SSL mode, but the server is expecting explicit SSL,
    the SSL handshake will fail with this message."

    No luck either way with news.grc.com.

    -a *-a Connecting to news.grc.com:563 in implicit SSL mode gives error
    -a -a-a 80090308.

    -a *-a Connecting to news.grc.com:563 in explicit SSL mode gives an
    -a -a-a error from the server, rCL400 Error initializing TLSrCY.

    Their website says [1] they support NON-SSL connections on port 563,
    but attempting that gives the error rCL400 Error initializing TLSrCY.

    [1] <https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm>
    --
    Kind regards
    Ralph Fox
    EfaeN+A

    Talk of the Devil and he'll either come or send.
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to alt.free.newsservers on Wed Jul 23 23:15:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:

    No luck either way with news.grc.com.

    * Connecting to news.grc.com:563 in implicit SSL mode gives error
    80090308.

    * Connecting to news.grc.com:563 in explicit SSL mode gives an
    error from the server, "400 Error initializing TLS".

    Their website says [1] they support NON-SSL connections on port 563,
    but attempting that gives the error "400 Error initializing TLS".

    [1] <https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm>


    news.grc.com port 119 still works in plain text.
    --
    ^-^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.free.newsservers on Thu Jul 24 19:23:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:07:38 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

    No luck either way with news.grc.com.

    -a *-a Connecting to news.grc.com:563 in implicit SSL mode gives error
    -a -a-a 80090308.

    -a *-a Connecting to news.grc.com:563 in explicit SSL mode gives an
    -a -a-a error from the server, rCL400 Error initializing TLSrCY.

    Ralph, Steve has fixed the TLS settings and - for me - SSL is working
    again.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Carl@carl@some.biz to alt.free.newsservers on Fri Jul 25 16:54:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    In article <105rgfe$13ecq$1@dont-email.me>
    "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    s|b wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:55:09 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    In the E-S newsgroup he said it was done recently. It all worked
    with SSL until a week or so ago.

    I guess you're using W11 as well? Apparently, there was an update >concerning TLS.

    Xananews is self contained and portable. I run it from a thumb drive.
    The SSL .dlls are in its own directory. Unfortunately it seems to be abandoned again. First the author, then the enthusiasts. I can't seem
    to find its forum anymore.

    What version are you running?

    I sometimes run this. It has limits on what connectivity it will
    support.

    XanaNews Version 1.21-f3fb89f
    Windows 8 (Build 9200)


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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to alt.free.newsservers on Fri Jul 25 19:27:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.free.newsservers

    Carl wrote:

    In article <105rgfe$13ecq$1@dont-email.me>
    "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    s|b wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:55:09 -0400, badgolferman wrote:

    In the E-S newsgroup he said it was done recently. It all
    worked >>with SSL until a week or so ago.

    I guess you're using W11 as well? Apparently, there was an update
    concerning TLS.

    Xananews is self contained and portable. I run it from a thumb
    drive. The SSL .dlls are in its own directory. Unfortunately it
    seems to be abandoned again. First the author, then the
    enthusiasts. I can't seem to find its forum anymore.

    What version are you running?

    I sometimes run this. It has limits on what connectivity it will
    support.

    XanaNews Version 1.21-f3fb89f
    Windows 8 (Build 9200)


    I'm running 1.19.1.372 as a portable install. Does your version
    connect to E-S Port 443 with SSL enabled? If not then there's no
    reason for me to change versions.
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