• Structured Text

    From Erin@erin@home.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 10:02:35 2026
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    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    https://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_-_Thunderbird#Structured_Text
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 10:49:03 2026
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    Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:
    This is *bold* text. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    It's OK if used sparingly, not all software displays them as expected,
    but people can "see it" in their heads ...
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 10:57:34 2026
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    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 10:02:35 +0000, Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    If I do that kind of thing, I use Markdown syntax so that I have future options to format it.
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  • From Andreas Eder@a_eder_muc@web.de to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 11:52:16 2026
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    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 10:02, Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    I can see it rendered as such in gnus on emacs.

    'Andreas
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  • From Peter Flass@Peter@Iron-Spring.com to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 07:20:45 2026
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    On 2/21/26 03:02, Erin wrote:
    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    https://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_-_Thunderbird#Structured_Text
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    I use it, but I'm an old-timer.
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  • From Charlie Gibbs@cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 17:54:59 2026
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    On 2026-02-21, Erin <erin@home.invalid> wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    I'm reading this with slrn. It showed your *bold text* in blue,
    your /italic/ in pink, but otherwise unchanged. Your _underlined_
    text, however, was shown in cyan and underlined.

    Whether the colours show or not, it is a nice way to add emphasis
    to plain-text messages - if used judiciously, of course.
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 14:08:42 2026
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    Erin wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    The colors show up in slrn.

    The various levels of quoting also show up in different colors and
    in normal vs boldface in slrn.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    https://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_-_Thunderbird#Structured_Text

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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 19:11:54 2026
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    Erin <erin@home.invalid> wrote or quoted:
    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:
    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Looks like the major plain text specs, say Markdown and ReStructured
    Text, all swear by the asterisk "*" for italics. That is an abomina-
    tion! For the language I am cooking up I stick with "/" for italics
    - naturally.

    Actually, this post was already formatted by my own markup system,
    which did the paragraph wrapping and English hyphenation for plain
    text.


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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 19:31:50 2026
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    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 10:02:35 -0000 (UTC), Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    https://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_-
    _Thunderbird#Structured_Text
    _ This page was last edited on 20 December 2016

    It displays as expected in Pan. I sometimes use *emphasis* but not italic
    or underline.
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  • From Rich Alderson@news@alderson.users.panix.com to alt.folklore.computers on Sat Feb 21 19:21:02 2026
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    Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> writes:

    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 10:02, Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    I can see it rendered as such in gnus on emacs.

    Interesting. I use gnus, and I see Erin's line with asterisks, slashes, and underscores...
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Feb 22 09:40:36 2026
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    On 2026-02-21, Stefan Ram wrote:

    Erin <erin@home.invalid> wrote or quoted:
    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:
    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    Looks like the major plain text specs, say Markdown and ReStructured
    Text, all swear by the asterisk "*" for italics. That is an abomina-
    tion! For the language I am cooking up I stick with "/" for italics
    - naturally.

    When is that? Could it be that it's really interpreting * as "emphasis"
    and rendering as italic for print? Or is it also rendering it as italic
    for on-screen display?

    (Maybe these days of higher resolution make italic on screen more
    usable, say, like maybe serif fonts might be now acceptable on some sort
    of high-resolution displays?)

    Actually, this post was already formatted by my own markup system,
    which did the paragraph wrapping and English hyphenation for plain
    text.


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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Feb 22 11:40:48 2026
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    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote or quoted:
    On 2026-02-21, Stefan Ram wrote:
    Looks like the major plain text specs, say Markdown and ReStructured
    Text, all swear by the asterisk "*" for italics. That is an abomina-
    tion! For the language I am cooking up I stick with "/" for italics
    - naturally.
    When is that? Could it be that it's really interpreting * as "emphasis"
    and rendering as italic for print? Or is it also rendering it as italic
    for on-screen display?

    The Markdown specification by John Gruber says,

    |Markdown treats asterisks (*) and underscores (_) as
    |indicators of emphasis. Text wrapped with one * or _ will be
    |wrapped with an HTML <em> tag; double *rCOs or _rCOs will be
    |wrapped with an HTML <strong> tag.
    |
    Markdown specification by John Gruber.

    The HTML em element type usually is mapped to an italic typeface.
    So, in that sense, "*" is mapped to italics by Markdown.

    The thing is, "/" is slanted exactly like italic type is slanted,
    so "/" naturally represents italics.

    Italics is /passive markup/ (it does not attract the eye).
    The slash "/" has the weight of a letter, so it's passive
    too. One more reason to link it to italics.

    The "*" is a heavier thing, it has more black to attract
    the eye, so it naturally links to a bold typeface
    (an active markup which attracts the eye). It is a bold
    symbol. Therefore it is a natural symbol for a bold typeface.

    Italic text and bold text both are kinds of emphasis.
    (HTML got that wrong using "em" specifically for italics
    in a misguided attempt to appear "semantic".) Italic text
    is /passive emphasis/ (emphasize, but do not attract the eye),
    bold text is /active emphasis/ (emphasize and attract the eye).

    So, "/" is natural for italics and "*" for boldface.
    And that's the way it is and was always used in Usenet.

    (Maybe these days of higher resolution make italic on screen more
    usable, say, like maybe serif fonts might be now acceptable on some sort
    of high-resolution displays?)

    I think today many displays have enough resolution for italics
    and serifs.


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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Feb 22 06:50:17 2026
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    Chris Ahlstrom wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Erin wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    The colors show up in slrn.

    The various levels of quoting also show up in different colors and
    in normal vs boldface in slrn.

    Also you can configure the colors of various elements.

    Or was this always only a thing of Netscape Mail & Newsgroups and/or
    Mozilla Thunderbird?

    https://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_-_Thunderbird#Structured_Text --
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  • From Andreas Eder@a_eder_muc@web.de to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Feb 22 17:17:25 2026
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    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 19:21, Rich Alderson wrote:

    Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> writes:

    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 10:02, Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    I can see it rendered as such in gnus on emacs.

    Interesting. I use gnus, and I see Erin's line with asterisks,
    slashes, and underscores...

    Maybe it is because of the font? Or I cam see it because I have
    mm-decode loaded? I don't know.

    'Andreas
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  • From Dan Espen@dan1espen@gmail.com to alt.folklore.computers on Sun Feb 22 12:27:17 2026
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    Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> writes:

    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 19:21, Rich Alderson wrote:

    Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> writes:

    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 10:02, Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    I can see it rendered as such in gnus on emacs.

    Interesting. I use gnus, and I see Erin's line with asterisks,
    slashes, and underscores...

    Maybe it is because of the font? Or I cam see it because I have
    mm-decode loaded? I don't know.

    Perhaps it is the font. I'm using GNUS and I see the italics and underlines but
    I see the asterisks around 'bold text'. My default font is bold.
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to alt.folklore.computers on Mon Feb 23 12:11:45 2026
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    Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> writes:

    On Sa 21 Feb 2026 at 10:02, Erin wrote:

    Do we still use "Structured Text" as in:

    This is *bold text*. This is /italic/. This is _underlined_ text.

    I can see it rendered as such in gnus on emacs.

    'Andreas

    I'm in gnus and the italic appears as highlighted. Underlined shows as
    green fonted, and bold is bold but surrounded with *

    What did you do in gnus to see the formatting?

    D
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