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On 10/2/25 12:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/2/2025 12:13 PM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 14:59:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

Pearls Before Swine: Rat has a new job in Hell
-a-a-a https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2025/10/01

Oh no.-a Oh no.-a I may have done that in the distant past.

I haven't, so far as I can recall.

I also don't underline text in printed books.

I just destroy the binding if it isn't really really well done.

I have destroyed many bindings.-a Both technical hardbacks (you really
hate to hear that creak on a $250 book) and MMPBs.-a I keep the technical hardbacks (I have about 3,000 books in my technical library) but try to weasel a new MMPB out of the MMPB publisher.

Lynn

Ha!
I certainly fold corners of pages to mark note worthy passages
in books I own.
And I will underline, or circle, or block out good points.
If I own them, and it makes it easier for me to remember
and find these passages again, WHY NOT?

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

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a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> writes:

On 10/2/25 12:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/2/2025 12:13 PM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 14:59:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

Pearls Before Swine: Rat has a new job in Hell
-a-a-a https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2025/10/01

Oh no.-a Oh no.-a I may have done that in the distant past.

I haven't, so far as I can recall.

I also don't underline text in printed books.

I just destroy the binding if it isn't really really well done.

I have destroyed many bindings.-a Both technical hardbacks (you really
hate to hear that creak on a $250 book) and MMPBs.-a I keep the technical >> hardbacks (I have about 3,000 books in my technical library) but try to
weasel a new MMPB out of the MMPB publisher.

Lynn

Ha!
I certainly fold corners of pages to mark note worthy passages
in books I own.
And I will underline, or circle, or block out good points.
If I own them, and it makes it easier for me to remember
and find these passages again, WHY NOT?

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition?

Do you enjoy asking strawman questions?
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On 10/3/2025 12:22 PM, a425couple wrote:

On 10/2/25 12:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/2/2025 12:13 PM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 14:59:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

Pearls Before Swine: Rat has a new job in Hell
-a-a-a https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2025/10/01

Oh no.-a Oh no.-a I may have done that in the distant past.

I haven't, so far as I can recall.

I also don't underline text in printed books.

I just destroy the binding if it isn't really really well done.

I have destroyed many bindings.-a Both technical hardbacks (you really
hate to hear that creak on a $250 book) and MMPBs.-a I keep the
technical hardbacks (I have about 3,000 books in my technical library)
but try to weasel a new MMPB out of the MMPB publisher.

Lynn

Ha!
I certainly fold corners of pages to mark note worthy passages
in books I own.
And I will underline, or circle, or block out good points.
If I own them, and it makes it easier for me to remember
and find these passages again, WHY NOT?

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

I do write notes in my technical books. One of my guys used to write
notes in pencil, I write in blue ink. If I found something of
importance, I want to know it for the future as I may refer to it again.

Lynn

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a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes. Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the
next owner comes along. Take care of them.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 12:22 PM, a425couple wrote:

On 10/2/25 12:25, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/2/2025 12:13 PM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 14:59:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

Pearls Before Swine: Rat has a new job in Hell
-a-a-a https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2025/10/01

Oh no.-a Oh no.-a I may have done that in the distant past.

I haven't, so far as I can recall.

I also don't underline text in printed books.

I just destroy the binding if it isn't really really well done.

I have destroyed many bindings.-a Both technical hardbacks (you really
hate to hear that creak on a $250 book) and MMPBs.-a I keep the
technical hardbacks (I have about 3,000 books in my technical
library) but try to weasel a new MMPB out of the MMPB publisher.

Lynn

Ha!
I certainly fold corners of pages to mark note worthy passages
in books I own.
And I will underline, or circle, or block out good points.
If I own them, and it makes it easier for me to remember
and find these passages again, WHY NOT?

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

I do write notes in my technical books.-a One of my guys used to write
notes in pencil, I write in blue ink.-a If I found something of
importance, I want to know it for the future as I may refer to it again.

I had forgotten that I used to annotate chess books in pencil,
questioning lines I didn't understand, suggesting improvements.

It's a good way to get better, but on rereading those books lately I've
come to understand just how bad a player I then was. Of course, there
are the notes I can't read. Maybe those are brilliant.

I also made notes in some history books. It's interesting how often
they are simply defending previous convictions while refusing to deal
with the author's argument. I had a lot to learn.

William Hyde
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 17:51:35 -0400, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
wrote:
<snippo, treatment of books>

I had forgotten that I used to annotate chess books in pencil,
questioning lines I didn't understand, suggesting improvements.

It's a good way to get better, but on rereading those books lately I've
come to understand just how bad a player I then was. Of course, there
are the notes I can't read. Maybe those are brilliant.

I kept notes in every lecture course. I would review them before
Finals.
But when I tried to reduce them to typewritten form over the summer
... I found them unreadable.
I doubt that they were ever brilliant, however.
In time, I came to realize the Awful Truth: simply /writing down/ the
notes was enough. It served to focus my attention on what the
instructor was saying.
This is akin to another observation: I do my best work when I am
slightly tired. When I am wide awake I am too likely to be distracted.
/gnothi seauton/ indeed!
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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Paul S Person wrote:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 17:51:35 -0400, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
wrote:

<snippo, treatment of books>

I had forgotten that I used to annotate chess books in pencil,
questioning lines I didn't understand, suggesting improvements.

It's a good way to get better, but on rereading those books lately I've
come to understand just how bad a player I then was. Of course, there
are the notes I can't read. Maybe those are brilliant.

I kept notes in every lecture course. I would review them before
Finals.

But when I tried to reduce them to typewritten form over the summer
... I found them unreadable.

I doubt that they were ever brilliant, however.

In time, I came to realize the Awful Truth: simply /writing down/ the
notes was enough. It served to focus my attention on what the
instructor was saying.

This is akin to another observation: I do my best work when I am
slightly tired. When I am wide awake I am too likely to be distracted.

I don't do cryptic crosswords well, but I do them significantly better
when tired or distracted. My guess is that when I am alert this shuts
down, or I pay no attention to, some intuitive process that works better
than conscious thought in some cases.

In chess it is well known that "the move your hand wants to play" is
often better than the move your mind decides on. But alas, the other decisions you have to make in a chess game are more important on the
whole, so it is best to play when awake, unless you are the late IM
Nickoloff, who would play quite well after 36 hours without sleep.

William Hyde
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On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes. Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the
next owner comes along. Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books. I have no
idea what to do with that many books.

My parents had 6,000+ books between them. We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting in
the driveway. The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300 hardback
books and said no more.

Lynn

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On 10/22/25 14:30, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the
next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have no
idea what to do with that many books.

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting in
the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300 hardback books and said no more.

Lynn

In San Francisco there is an organization called Friends of the Library. Maybe
you have a similar institution? They take the donated books and have sidewalk
sales on the West end of the Library every Wednesday. I am broke
lately so
I missed a chance at an old book on Japanese arts.

bliss
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Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the
next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have no
idea what to do with that many books.

My sister has a new daughter in law, who is about to receive a few yards
worth of novels. They have vast expanses of wall without bookcases!

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting in
the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300 hardback books and said no more.

I can make a call to one of several charities, they'll tell me when they
will be in the area, and I leave a box of books (or whatever) on the
porch and they pick it up.

Or we can drive off to Goodwill and drop off as many as we want.

As long as the spines are intact, covers on, and the books are free of mold.

William Hyde

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 16:30:23 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes. Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the
next owner comes along. Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books. I have no
idea what to do with that many books.

My parents had 6,000+ books between them. We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting in
the driveway. The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300 hardback >books and said no more.

For a while at least, an organization called Discover Books maintained collection boxes (very similar to a dumpster) at various places in
Seattle. They took any book you could fit into the slot; but there was
no guarantee that all would find a new home. Indeed, not having them
picked over and leaving you with a pile of rejects was a major
advantage.
It is not clear if they still exist however, if only because the name
is unlikely to be unique.
We also have a Friends of the Library up here.
You may just have to call around and follow leads.
Or you could just put them outside (on a clear day) with a sign saying
"Free!".
Half-price books used to offer to "pulp" the rejects; pulping, as a
form of recycling paper, might be better than putting it in the trash
stream to a landfill or incinerator.
Or there is always my LP solution: pack them in boxes, store the
boxes, pay no further attention to the boxes. If you've ever wondered
why older people end up with cluttered houses, well, the logistics of
finding new homes for things can be daunting.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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On 10/22/2025 6:24 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the >>> next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have no
idea what to do with that many books.

My sister has a new daughter in law, who is about to receive a few yards worth of novels. They have vast expanses of wall without bookcases!

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting in
the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300
hardback books and said no more.

I can make a call to one of several charities, they'll tell me when they will be in the area, and I leave a box of books (or whatever) on the
porch and they pick it up.

Or we can drive off to Goodwill and drop off as many as we want.

As long as the spines are intact, covers on, and the books are free of
mold.

William Hyde

A quarter of the books are in the garage and have mildew on them.

Lynn

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On 10/23/2025 2:59 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/22/2025 6:24 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the >>>> next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have
no idea what to do with that many books.

My sister has a new daughter in law, who is about to receive a few
yards worth of novels. They have vast expanses of wall without bookcases!

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting
in the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300
hardback books and said no more.

I can make a call to one of several charities, they'll tell me when
they will be in the area, and I leave a box of books (or whatever) on
the porch and they pick it up.

Or we can drive off to Goodwill and drop off as many as we want.

As long as the spines are intact, covers on, and the books are free of
mold.

William Hyde

A quarter of the books are in the garage and have mildew on them.

Lynn

And another quarter of the books were in the afternoon and have very
faded dust covers.

Lynn

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On 10/23/2025 2:59 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/22/2025 6:24 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until the >>>> next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have
no idea what to do with that many books.

My sister has a new daughter in law, who is about to receive a few
yards worth of novels. They have vast expanses of wall without bookcases!

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting
in the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300
hardback books and said no more.

I can make a call to one of several charities, they'll tell me when
they will be in the area, and I leave a box of books (or whatever) on
the porch and they pick it up.

Or we can drive off to Goodwill and drop off as many as we want.

As long as the spines are intact, covers on, and the books are free of
mold.

William Hyde

A quarter of the books are in the garage and have mildew on them.

Lynn

I forgot the word "sun".

And another quarter of the books were in the afternoon sun and have very
faded dust covers.

Lynn

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On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 22:43:56 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

And another quarter of the books were in the afternoon sun and have very >faded dust covers.

That would matter to a collector, I expect.
But not necessarily to a used book store owner (might affect how much
you get for it).
And probably not for a Friends of the Library organization, which (as
I understand it, which means at least up here in Seattle) sells most
of them (those the library can't use) to raise money to supplement the library's budget.
This sale may be one of those where the buyers are willing to pay more
than they usually would to help out a good cause.
If there is such an organization in your area, they should have a web
page (after all, /everyone/ has a web page!) that will tell you what
they will and will not take.
The "will not"s (in addition to books infested with mold, presumably)
will likely be things like any Encyclopedia Britannica published since
the 70s and similar items which are so common everyone who wants one
already has one.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/23/2025 2:59 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/22/2025 6:24 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until >>>>> the
next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have
no idea what to do with that many books.

My sister has a new daughter in law, who is about to receive a few
yards worth of novels. They have vast expanses of wall without
bookcases!

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting
in the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300
hardback books and said no more.

I can make a call to one of several charities, they'll tell me when
they will be in the area, and I leave a box of books (or whatever) on
the porch and they pick it up.

Or we can drive off to Goodwill and drop off as many as we want.

As long as the spines are intact, covers on, and the books are free
of mold.

William Hyde

A quarter of the books are in the garage and have mildew on them.

Lynn

And another quarter of the books were in the afternoon and have very
faded dust covers.

From what I understand those will be perfectly acceptable. But the
mildewed ones are due for recycling, unless they are very old and
potentially valuable.

William Hyde

Lynn

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On 10/23/2025 10:42 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/23/2025 2:59 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/22/2025 6:24 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 10/3/2025 2:52 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

a425couple-a <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do some self righteous people here really think you get a
bonus in Heaven if your heirs find your now unwanted
old books is pristine condition? >

Yes.-a Books are sacred, like forests, and we only borrow them until >>>>> the
next owner comes along.-a Take care of them.
--scott

I am considering disposing of 3,000 of my 4,000 SF/F books.-a I have
no idea what to do with that many books.

My sister has a new daughter in law, who is about to receive a few
yards worth of novels. They have vast expanses of wall without
bookcases!

My parents had 6,000+ books between them.-a We are having difficulty
getting rid of them except the 25 yd^3 dumpster that I have sitting
in the driveway.-a The local library in Port Lavaca, Texas took 300
hardback books and said no more.

I can make a call to one of several charities, they'll tell me when
they will be in the area, and I leave a box of books (or whatever) on
the porch and they pick it up.

Or we can drive off to Goodwill and drop off as many as we want.

As long as the spines are intact, covers on, and the books are free
of mold.

William Hyde

A quarter of the books are in the garage and have mildew on them.

Lynn

And another quarter of the books were in the afternoon and have very
faded dust covers.

Lynn

I've been looking into selling to Half-Price Books since they are large
enough to take a large influx (although mine is only a 1000). Seems I'd
be lucky to get much over a dime a book on average. So mine are most
likely going the friends of the library.
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