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  • Should Extensions and Javascript be able to override webbrowser shortcuts?

    From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 16:26:48 2025
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    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    ciao...
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 15:40:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 16:45:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19.12.2025 16:40, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.

    haha.. in 2025 turn off javascript.. good luck

    The answer is:

    Look up permissions.default.shortcuts and set it to 2

    ciao..

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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 16:56:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19.12.2025 16:40, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.

    BTW... you're talking a bit out of you ass:

    "NoScript, the most widely-used extension."
    268,121 Users

    uBlock Origin
    10,571,978 Users

    ciao...
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 16:04:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 16:40, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.

    BTW... you're talking a bit out of you ass:

    "NoScript, the most widely-used extension."
    268,121 Users

    uBlock Origin
    10,571,978 Users

    ciao...

    Thank you for being pleasant.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 17:10:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19.12.2025 17:04, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 16:40, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.

    BTW... you're talking a bit out of you ass:

    "NoScript, the most widely-used extension."
    268,121 Users

    uBlock Origin
    10,571,978 Users

    ciao...

    Thank you for being pleasant.

    No problem.

    I read more and more nonsense every day AI or human.

    ciao...


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 16:43:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 17:04, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 16:40, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.

    BTW... you're talking a bit out of you ass:

    "NoScript, the most widely-used extension."
    268,121 Users

    uBlock Origin
    10,571,978 Users

    ciao...

    Thank you for being pleasant.

    No problem.

    I read more and more nonsense every day AI or human.

    Given the insufficient amount of nonsense, the effort you make to
    contribute more is much appreciated.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 17:50:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19.12.2025 17:43, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 17:04, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 16:40, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!

    There is. Turn off javascript or leave it on but control it with
    NoScript, the most widely-used extension.

    BTW... you're talking a bit out of you ass:

    "NoScript, the most widely-used extension."
    268,121 Users

    uBlock Origin
    10,571,978 Users

    ciao...

    Thank you for being pleasant.

    No problem.

    I read more and more nonsense every day AI or human.

    Given the insufficient amount of nonsense, the effort you make to
    contribute more is much appreciated.

    qoute the part of nonsense I wrote in reply to the real nonsense, please

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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 17:43:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!


    According to this <https://webextension-api.thunderbird.net/en/mv2/commands.html>
    an addon needs the 'commands' permission to use keyboard
    shortcuts. So you may be able to remove that permission. Which
    might stop the addon working at all. It might just display errors
    in the console (ctrl-shift-J) on loading.

    I would expect it to allow you to change the shortcut to avoid a clash.
    --
    Remove numerics from my email address.
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 19 18:49:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19.12.2025 18:43, Dave Royal wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!


    According to this <https://webextension-api.thunderbird.net/en/mv2/commands.html>
    an addon needs the 'commands' permission to use keyboard
    shortcuts. So you may be able to remove that permission. Which
    might stop the addon working at all. It might just display errors
    in the console (ctrl-shift-J) on loading.

    I would expect it to allow you to change the shortcut to avoid a clash.

    nevermind... I found the config setting to disallow (see other post)

    Extension shortcuts have even priority over JavaScript.

    IMHO: The Broswer is the host and should not be overidden by it's guests
    by default.

    ciao..

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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 20 08:58:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19/12/2025 17:49, Schugo wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 18:43, Dave Royal wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!


    According to this
    <https://webextension-api.thunderbird.net/en/mv2/commands.html>
    an addon needs the 'commands' permission to use keyboard
    shortcuts. So you may be able to remove that permission. Which
    might stop the addon working at all. It might just display errors
    in the console (ctrl-shift-J) on loading.

    I would expect it to allow you to change the shortcut to avoid a clash.

    nevermind... I found the config setting to disallow (see other post)

    Have you found any disadvantages in setting
    permissions.default.shortcuts to 2?
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 20 20:33:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 20.12.2025 09:58, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 17:49, Schugo wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 18:43, Dave Royal wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!


    According to this
    <https://webextension-api.thunderbird.net/en/mv2/commands.html>
    an addon needs the 'commands' permission to use keyboard
    shortcuts. So you may be able to remove that permission. Which
    might stop the addon working at all. It might just display errors
    in the console (ctrl-shift-J) on loading.

    I would expect it to allow you to change the shortcut to avoid a clash.

    nevermind... I found the config setting to disallow (see other post)

    Have you found any disadvantages in setting
    permissions.default.shortcuts to 2?

    Absolutely not. I don't remember ever having used a website's
    shortcut. It's hard enough to remember all the App's shortcuts ;)

    ciao..

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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 20 20:42:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 20.12.2025 20:33, Schugo wrote:
    On 20.12.2025 09:58, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 17:49, Schugo wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 18:43, Dave Royal wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:

    Hi!

    Examples:

    Discord website captures CTRL+i (Page Information).

    The Dictionairiez extension captures CTRL+SHIFT+X
    (change between LTR/RTL in input fields)

    There should be an option to disallow that!


    According to this
    <https://webextension-api.thunderbird.net/en/mv2/commands.html>
    an addon needs the 'commands' permission to use keyboard
    shortcuts. So you may be able to remove that permission. Which
    might stop the addon working at all. It might just display errors
    in the console (ctrl-shift-J) on loading.

    I would expect it to allow you to change the shortcut to avoid a clash. >>>
    nevermind... I found the config setting to disallow (see other post)

    Have you found any disadvantages in setting
    permissions.default.shortcuts to 2?

    Absolutely not. I don't remember ever having used a website's
    shortcut. It's hard enough to remember all the App's shortcuts ;)

    maybe that's not obvious:

    it still allows all JS shortcuts that are not yet used by the browser

    ciao...

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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 20 21:29:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 20/12/2025 19:42, Schugo wrote:
    On 20.12.2025 20:33, Schugo wrote:
    On 20.12.2025 09:58, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 17:49, Schugo wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 18:43, Dave Royal wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:


    Have you found any disadvantages in setting
    permissions.default.shortcuts to 2?

    Absolutely not. I don't remember ever having used a website's
    shortcut. It's hard enough to remember all the App's shortcuts ;)

    maybe that's not obvious:

    it still allows all JS shortcuts that are not yet used by the browser

    ciao...

    Grazie!
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Schugo@schugo@schugo.de to alt.comp.software.firefox on Mon Dec 22 12:33:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 20.12.2025 22:29, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 20/12/2025 19:42, Schugo wrote:
    On 20.12.2025 20:33, Schugo wrote:
    On 20.12.2025 09:58, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 17:49, Schugo wrote:
    On 19.12.2025 18:43, Dave Royal wrote:
    Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> Wrote in message:


    Have you found any disadvantages in setting
    permissions.default.shortcuts to 2?

    Absolutely not. I don't remember ever having used a website's
    shortcut. It's hard enough to remember all the App's shortcuts ;)

    maybe that's not obvious:

    it still allows all JS shortcuts that are not yet used by the browser

    ciao...

    Grazie!

    Related Hack (e.g. on Discord):

    hold SHIFT and click right to get the FF context menue instead of
    the custom JS captured menu.

    ciao...

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