• Firefox has blocked this site

    From John Ali@John.Ali@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Dec 3 22:58:06 2025
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    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site: https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?

    I should mention that it is a brand new Ubuntu installation and I fully updated it today. No other changes have been made yet.

    The site is blocked by Cisco Umbrella, with whom I have no affiliation.
    I don't use the OpenDNS server either, which is also owned by Cisco, but
    what has Mozilla got to do with them? My network settings are off, as
    shown in this image:

    https://i.postimg.cc/Vk0sc4B2/Screenshot-from-2025-12-03-22-50-40.png





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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Dec 3 15:47:53 2025
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    John Ali wrote:
    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site: https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?

    I'm LM linuxmint, NOT using the latest Ffx, and I was 'required' to
    verify human by that common gizmo and then I went to the site.

    It's somewhat embarrassing to show my versions, but I will:
    LM 22.1, kernel 6.8, Ffx 134.0

    Lazy updater for an installed system, but I use the 'new stuff' all the
    time when I regularly boot live distro/s :-)
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Nobody@jock@soccer.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Dec 3 17:24:46 2025
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    On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 22:58:06 +0000, John Ali <John.Ali@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site: >https://linux.mainsite.tk/.
    A domain name registered in Tokelau?
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  • From lisa@not.in.use@home.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 09:49:11 2025
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    On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:47:53 -0800, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
    wrote:

    John Ali wrote:
    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site:
    https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?

    I'm LM linuxmint, NOT using the latest Ffx, and I was 'required' to
    verify human by that common gizmo and then I went to the site.

    I'm not sure if it has something to do with the latest Ffx.
    I get that Verify human also with my Firefox v115.30.0esr or
    v115.17.0esr and it's not possible for me to go on. It keeps
    returning and I'm no longer allowed to access deviantart.com. With a
    chromium based browser I have no problems (yet).
    Running win7 x64.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 17:58:55 2025
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    On 4/12/2025 6:58 am, John Ali wrote:
    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site: https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?
    It's called user-agent string. You can use a browser add-on to fake your string or signature. Firefox the browser has it. You can also alter
    settings in Firefox's about:config to do the same. :)

    Back then people needed to fake as a Linux browser to download Windows'
    ISOs.

    user-agent string - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?q=user-agent+string
    --
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    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 18:26:38 2025
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    On 4/12/2025 9:24 am, Nobody wrote:
    On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 22:58:06 +0000, John Ali <John.Ali@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site:
    https://linux.mainsite.tk/.

    A domain name registered in Tokelau?


    Don't you trust uBlock Origin and Windows' antivirus scanner? :)
    --
    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 12:20:56 2025
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 4/12/2025 6:58 am, John Ali wrote:
    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site:
    https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?
    It's called user-agent string. You can use a browser add-on to fake your string or signature. Firefox the browser has it. You can also alter
    settings in Firefox's about:config to do the same. :)

    Back then people needed to fake as a Linux browser to download Windows' ISOs.

    user-agent string - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?q=user-agent+string


    https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent/ is very
    helpful on this front.
    Mine is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101
    Firefox/140.0 but it's a lie, my Firefox is 140.5[.0esr]
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 19:56:34 2025
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    On 4/12/2025 7:20 pm, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent/ is very
    helpful on this front.
    Mine is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0 but it's a lie, my Firefox is 140.5[.0esr]


    Back then only Micro$oft IE supports ActiveX controls. And hence, web programmers need to detect browsers. Javascript and CSS were not that
    popular as well. HTML was also very simple. :)

    And that's why most business web applications were written in Java.
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  • From John Ali@John.Ali@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 19:47:34 2025
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    On 03/12/2025 23:47, Mike Easter wrote:
    John Ali wrote:
    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site:
    https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?

    I'm LM linuxmint, NOT using the latest Ffx, and I was 'required' to
    verify human by that common gizmo and then I went to the site.

    It's somewhat embarrassing to show my versions, but I will:
    LM 22.1, kernel 6.8, Ffx 134.0

    Lazy updater for an installed system, but I use the 'new stuff' all the
    time when I regularly boot live distro/s :-)



    It turns out that my ISP uses OpenDNS, with the following IP addresses:

    208.67.222.123.
    208.67.220.123.

    As soon as I changed them to Google's and Cloudflare's IP addresses, everything started working normally again.

    Unfortunately, it is unlikely that anyone is accessing the website using
    the private addresses that are only given to ISPs, so there is no way to complain to my ISP or OpenDNS about this.

    The official public OpenDNS addresses are:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220.

    I tested them and they work, but slowly for my liking. I'd rather stick
    with Google and Cloudflare.

    8.8.8.8
    8.8.4.4
    1.1.1.1

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1agm4za/cisco_umbrella_and_opendns_familyshield/>



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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 14:44:14 2025
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    John Ali wrote:
    It turns out that my ISP uses OpenDNS, with the following IP addresses:

    208.67.222.123.
    208.67.220.123.

    As soon as I changed them to Google's and Cloudflare's IP addresses, everything started working normally again.

    Unfortunately, it is unlikely that anyone is accessing the website using
    the private addresses that are only given to ISPs, so there is no way to complain to my ISP or OpenDNS about this.

    The official public OpenDNS addresses are:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220.

    I tested them and they work, but slowly for my liking. I'd rather stick
    with Google and Cloudflare.

    8.8.8.8
    8.8.4.4
    1.1.1.1

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1agm4za/cisco_umbrella_and_opendns_familyshield/>

    The reddit is informative; thanks for figuring that out.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Dec 4 23:42:59 2025
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    On 04/12/2025 19:47, John Ali wrote:
    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    Don't use those unless you also configure a customised block list at opendns.com. If you don't, you can end up with someone else's
    configuration when that someone else previously had the same public IP
    address as you. If/when your public IP changes you also need to tell
    dynamic DNS updater to tell OpenDNS to move your configuration to the
    new IP.
    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 5 14:10:08 2025
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    On 5/12/2025 3:47 am, John Ali wrote:

    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site: https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?

    .....

    It turns out that my ISP uses OpenDNS, with the following IP addresses:

    Was it your ISP or your Ubuntu Linux? Maybe you forgot? ;)

    It's weird to find an ISP using OpenDNS!!
    --
    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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  • From John Ali@John.Ali@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 5 22:56:36 2025
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    On 05/12/2025 06:10, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 5/12/2025 3:47 am, John Ali wrote:

    On Linux Ubuntu, the latest version of Firefox has blocked this site:
    https://linux.mainsite.tk/. I can access it on Windows. Could some
    Ubuntu users try accessing the site to see if there is something in my
    setup that needs attention?

    .....

    It turns out that my ISP uses OpenDNS, with the following IP addresses:

    Was it your ISP or your Ubuntu Linux? Maybe you forgot? ;)

    It's weird to find an ISP using OpenDNS!!




    Yes, they all use free public DNS servers because setting up their own
    would be expensive, especially when Google and others have invested
    heavily in controlling what users can access!

    They pay a fee to use these services, which enables them to stay up to
    date and be developed.

    It's cheaper for ISPs to use major suppliers.

    In my case, I took a screenshot of my ISP router before making any
    changes. See the image here:

    <https://i.postimg.cc/mrLcvwgd/2025-12-04-03-18-13.png>


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  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 5 23:25:35 2025
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    On 05/12/2025 22:56, John Ali wrote:
    Yes, they all use free public DNS servers because setting up their own
    would be expensive, especially when Google and others have invested
    heavily in controlling what users can access!

    They pay a fee to use these services, which enables them to stay up to
    date and be developed.

    It's cheaper for ISPs to use major suppliers.

    In my case, I took a screenshot of my ISP router before making any
    changes. See the image here:

    <https://i.postimg.cc/mrLcvwgd/2025-12-04-03-18-13.png>

    Interesting. OpenDNS FamilySafe as default DNS!
    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 6 00:04:51 2025
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    Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 05/12/2025 22:56, John Ali wrote:
    Yes, they all use free public DNS servers because setting up their own
    would be expensive, especially when Google and others have invested
    heavily in controlling what users can access!

    They pay a fee to use these services, which enables them to stay up to
    date and be developed.

    It's cheaper for ISPs to use major suppliers.

    In my case, I took a screenshot of my ISP router before making any
    changes. See the image here:

    <https://i.postimg.cc/mrLcvwgd/2025-12-04-03-18-13.png>

    Interesting. OpenDNS FamilySafe as default DNS!
    But did the ISP set openDNS as default, or was it the end user (who may
    then forget having done so?)

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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Dec 5 16:25:28 2025
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    John Ali wrote:
    They pay a fee to use these services, which enables them to stay up to
    date and be developed.

    Looking at the opendns site, clearly there is a Cisco product 'package'
    there. They provide all kinds of security aids to their customers. An
    ISP may buy their product/package/s and use that security advantage as a selling point to the ISP's customers.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 6 14:22:49 2025
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    On 6/12/2025 6:56 am, John Ali wrote:

    Yes, they all use free public DNS servers because setting up their own
    would be expensive, especially when Google and others have invested
    heavily in controlling what users can access!

    They pay a fee to use these services, which enables them to stay up to
    date and be developed.

    It's cheaper for ISPs to use major suppliers.


    Was your Ubuntu Linux connect directly to your ISP or via a wifi router?
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Dec 6 14:25:08 2025
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    On 6/12/2025 7:25 am, Brian Gregory wrote:

    Interesting. OpenDNS FamilySafe as default DNS!


    That means limited service compared to filter-less DNS servers. That's
    really weird. I wonder whether it's paid for. :)
    --
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Dec 17 00:42:18 2025
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    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 19:56:34 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Back then only Micro$oft IE supports ActiveX controls.

    Nobody else ever bothered with them. They were a security nightmare
    waiting to happen. Even Microsoft has now given up on them.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Dec 17 00:43:24 2025
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    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 17:24:46 -0800, Nobody wrote:

    A domain name registered in Tokelau?

    Many of these smaller countries have leased out their CCTLDs if they
    happen to consist of interesting letters. E.g. .tv for Tuvalu.

    IrCOm not sure what the attraction would be for .tk, though ...
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Dec 17 00:45:41 2025
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    On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 22:56:36 +0000, John Ali wrote:

    Yes, they all use free public DNS servers because setting up their own
    would be expensive ...

    I donrCOt see why. WerCOre only talking caching DNS servers, after all. ItrCOs easy enough to run up a BIND installation on a Linux box that could cope
    with, I dunno, thousands of users maybe. Even dnsmasq (a common sight in
    home installations) will probably cope fine.
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