Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes getsShirley, the max/min/exit buttons exist for me in the menu bar...
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the >screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens >because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
I've confirmed that More Tools | Customise Toolbar | Title bar is ticked. "More Tools"? Where be that found...? Customise for me is accessedby right-clicking anywhere blank in the menu bar
NY wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the
screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
bug <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1996961>
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 22:53:16 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the >>screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state - >>whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens >>because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
Shirley, the max/min/exit buttons exist for me in the menu bar...
without the title bar being activated, which is my longstanding
setup... Win 11/Ffox 145.0.1.
I've confirmed that More Tools | Customise Toolbar | Title bar is ticked.
"More Tools"? Where be that found...? Customise for me is accessed
by right-clicking anywhere blank in the menu bar
Nobody wrote:But the OP pointed out that the min/max/close buttons which he wanted
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 22:53:16 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets >>>into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is >>>maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the >>>screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state - >>>whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens >>>because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
Shirley, the max/min/exit buttons exist for me in the menu bar...
without the title bar being activated, which is my longstanding
setup... Win 11/Ffox 145.0.1.
Yes, that's your setup. But that was not the question.
On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 02:06:07 +0100, Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee>
wrote:
Nobody wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 22:53:16 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets >>>>into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is >>>>maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the >>>>screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state - >>>>whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens >>>>because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
Shirley, the max/min/exit buttons exist for me in the menu bar...
without the title bar being activated, which is my longstanding
setup... Win 11/Ffox 145.0.1.
Yes, that's your setup. But that was not the question.
But the OP pointed out that the min/max/close buttons which he wanted
to see disappeared when the titlebar wasn't being presented.
I have tested "check" (or "not check") for the title bar at will, and
still see the min/max/kill prompts to the far right/top line
regardless with either setting.
Nobody wrote:That my system *regardless* cannot produce the supposed bug with the
On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 02:06:07 +0100, Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee>
wrote:
Nobody wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 22:53:16 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets >>>>>into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is >>>>>maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the >>>>>screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state - >>>>>whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens >>>>>because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
Shirley, the max/min/exit buttons exist for me in the menu bar...
without the title bar being activated, which is my longstanding
setup... Win 11/Ffox 145.0.1.
Yes, that's your setup. But that was not the question.
But the OP pointed out that the min/max/close buttons which he wanted
to see disappeared when the titlebar wasn't being presented.
I have tested "check" (or "not check") for the title bar at will, and
still see the min/max/kill prompts to the far right/top line
regardless with either setting.
I've already pointed out that maybe this is a known bug.
If it doesn't affect you because you in general hide that title bar
and can't reproduce it by shortly testing that for 5 seconds - what's
the point?
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes
gets into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of
the screen.
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
I've confirmed that More Tools | Customise Toolbar | Title bar is ticked.
It's only started in the last week or so; until then the title bar was always displayed. That's what makes me think it's a new version that is responsible.
It happens on a Win 10 PC.
On 11/21/2025 5:53 PM, NY wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the
screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens
because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
I've confirmed that More Tools | Customise Toolbar | Title bar is ticked.
It's only started in the last week or so; until then the title bar was
always displayed. That's what makes me think it's a new version that is
responsible.
It happens on a Win 10 PC.
I fixed the problem by adjusting the size of the FF display. After
regaining the title bar by cycling F1I, I clicked on the middle icon at
the top right and dragged the margins of the full firefox GIU to the
margins of my monitor. If I properly close FF rather than hitting the
"X" icon at the top right, when I re-open FF, everything is displayed normally. It's a work-around, but it works reliably for me.
Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 11/21/2025 5:53 PM, NY wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the
screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
It can be cured by pressing F11 twice but it's annoying when it happens
because I lose the maximise/minimise/exit buttons in the title bar.
I've confirmed that More Tools | Customise Toolbar | Title bar is ticked. >>>
It's only started in the last week or so; until then the title bar was
always displayed. That's what makes me think it's a new version that is
responsible.
It happens on a Win 10 PC.
I fixed the problem by adjusting the size of the FF display. After
regaining the title bar by cycling F1I, I clicked on the middle icon at
the top right and dragged the margins of the full firefox GIU to the
margins of my monitor. If I properly close FF rather than hitting the
"X" icon at the top right, when I re-open FF, everything is displayed
normally. It's a work-around, but it works reliably for me.
That is the exact workaround mentioned in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1996961 (Frank Miller's
first response to this thread)
On 21/11/2025 23:20, Frank Miller wrote:
NY wrote:
Recently - maybe since an update to V145.0.1 - Firefox sometimes gets
into a state where the title bar disappears while the window is
maximised, so the File / Edit / History menus bar is at the top of the
screen. I can't work out what circumstances put FF into this state -
whether it happens after visiting a specific web site.
bug <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1996961>
Ah, it's not just me, then! That is reassuring because it means it may
get fixed. All too often (and not just with FF) I find that I experience >bugs (consistently, on multiple computers) which no-one else can, and
then they get closed as (I'm paraphrasing} "No-one else has seen this.
You must be imagining it." ;-) (*)
(*) VLC video player is a good example: I can reliably make the picture >freeze while the sound continues if I pause/resume a couple of times; I--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
keep an older version prior to when the bug was introduced, for if I
need to pause/resume a video. It happens on Win 7, Win 10, Linux >Ubuntu/Mint/MX - but still the tech supp guys at VLC imply it's a
figment of my imagination.
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