• Pause in Windows 10 updates?

    From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jan 2 11:28:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    I've just brought up Reliability Monitor (type reli into the search box
    and select View reliability history), as something prompted me to in
    another newsgroup.

    It shows what's been happening the last few days - Application failures, Windows failures, Miscellaneous failures, Warnings, and Information.

    I normally expect to see some entry every day or two - in my case
    there's usually a WinAmp failure most days (I don't know why and am not bothered), and in Information blob (which resolves into Windows Updates)
    about every two days.

    But I'm seeing a clean slate for the last 8 days. The last information
    blob was Christmas day - when there were 19 "Successful Windows
    Update"s. (MixedReality Portal, MICROSOFT.PEOPLE, MicrosoftStickyNotes, Microsoft.BingSearch, BingWeather, WINDOWSALARMS, ZUNEVIDEO, DevHome, XboxGamingOverlay, WINDOWSCAMERA, ZUNEMUSIC, WINDOWSCALCULATOR,
    ScreenSketch, Copilot, CrossDevice, WindowsFeedbackHub, YourPhone, StorePurchaseApp, and MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB. (19 is a lot; it's usually 0
    to 6.)

    I'm not bothered, just surprised there have been no such for over a
    week. I've just checked under Settings | Updates, and it still says
    "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended Security Updates.", and "You're up
    to date\Last checked Yesterday, 21:33" (i. e. 2026-1-1). I just clicked
    Check for updates, and it still says I am (!Today, 11:27").
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    And every day in Britain, 33 properties are sold for around that price
    [a million pounds or so]. - Jane Rackham, RT 2015/4/11-17

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jan 2 10:18:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Fri, 1/2/2026 6:28 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    I've just brought up Reliability Monitor (type reli into the search box
    and select View reliability history), as something prompted me to in
    another newsgroup.

    It shows what's been happening the last few days - Application failures, Windows failures, Miscellaneous failures, Warnings, and Information.

    I normally expect to see some entry every day or two - in my case
    there's usually a WinAmp failure most days (I don't know why and am not bothered), and in Information blob (which resolves into Windows Updates) about every two days.

    But I'm seeing a clean slate for the last 8 days. The last information
    blob was Christmas day - when there were 19 "Successful Windows
    Update"s. (MixedReality Portal, MICROSOFT.PEOPLE, MicrosoftStickyNotes, Microsoft.BingSearch, BingWeather, WINDOWSALARMS, ZUNEVIDEO, DevHome, XboxGamingOverlay, WINDOWSCAMERA, ZUNEMUSIC, WINDOWSCALCULATOR,
    ScreenSketch, Copilot, CrossDevice, WindowsFeedbackHub, YourPhone, StorePurchaseApp, and MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB. (19 is a lot; it's usually 0
    to 6.)

    I'm not bothered, just surprised there have been no such for over a
    week. I've just checked under Settings | Updates, and it still says
    "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended Security Updates.", and "You're up
    to date\Last checked Yesterday, 21:33" (i. e. 2026-1-1). I just clicked
    Check for updates, and it still says I am (!Today, 11:27").


    When you enrolled in ESU, that's a different "stream" of OS, and
    consequently ALL the Windows Inbox Applications must be re-downloaded.
    Even though they might not be materially different.

    It will be a while until Patch Tuesday, and you get to see whether
    ESU actually gets a Security Update.

    I don't know what the support policy on your Metro.Apps is now.

    Paul
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jan 2 16:31:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On 2026/1/2 15:18:43, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 1/2/2026 6:28 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    I've just brought up Reliability Monitor (type reli into the search box
    and select View reliability history), as something prompted me to in
    another newsgroup.

    It shows what's been happening the last few days - Application failures,
    Windows failures, Miscellaneous failures, Warnings, and Information.

    I normally expect to see some entry every day or two - in my case
    there's usually a WinAmp failure most days (I don't know why and am not
    bothered), and in Information blob (which resolves into Windows Updates)
    about every two days.

    But I'm seeing a clean slate for the last 8 days. The last information
    blob was Christmas day - when there were 19 "Successful Windows

    []

    I'm not bothered, just surprised there have been no such for over a
    week. I've just checked under Settings | Updates, and it still says
    "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended Security Updates.", and "You're up
    to date\Last checked Yesterday, 21:33" (i. e. 2026-1-1). I just clicked
    Check for updates, and it still says I am (!Today, 11:27").


    When you enrolled in ESU, that's a different "stream" of OS, and
    consequently ALL the Windows Inbox Applications must be re-downloaded.
    Even though they might not be materially different.

    That sort of gels with what I've normally seen when I look at reli; some updates (?) every day or two. I'm happy to admit I haven't checked it
    that often - usually only when I wonder if all is well - but when I
    have, there have usually been some updates most days.

    I was thus just surprised to see a week without any. (OK, I know it's Christmas, but this is corporate America we're talking about, which I'm
    led to believe doesn't really believe in holidays.)

    It will be a while until Patch Tuesday, and you get to see whether
    ESU actually gets a Security Update.

    I don't know what the support policy on your Metro.Apps is now.

    Paul

    If that's the things I see under "Apps" (Windows 10, Classic Shell),
    then I don't _use_ any of them - though that wouldn't stop them
    updating, of course.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.
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  • From john@john@jeason.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jan 2 19:22:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    In article <10j8a59$tvb$2@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk (J. P. Gilliver) wrote:

    *From:* "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
    *Date:* Fri, 2 Jan 2026 11:28:41 +0000

    I've just brought up Reliability Monitor (type reli into the search
    box
    and select View reliability history), as something prompted me to in
    another newsgroup.

    It shows what's been happening the last few days - Application
    failures,
    Windows failures, Miscellaneous failures, Warnings, and Information.

    I normally expect to see some entry every day or two - in my case
    there's usually a WinAmp failure most days (I don't know why and am
    not
    bothered), and in Information blob (which resolves into Windows
    Updates)
    about every two days.

    But I'm seeing a clean slate for the last 8 days. The last
    information
    blob was Christmas day - when there were 19 "Successful Windows
    Update"s. (MixedReality Portal, MICROSOFT.PEOPLE,
    MicrosoftStickyNotes,
    Microsoft.BingSearch, BingWeather, WINDOWSALARMS, ZUNEVIDEO,
    DevHome,
    XboxGamingOverlay, WINDOWSCAMERA, ZUNEMUSIC, WINDOWSCALCULATOR,
    ScreenSketch, Copilot, CrossDevice, WindowsFeedbackHub, YourPhone, StorePurchaseApp, and MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB. (19 is a lot; it's
    usually 0
    to 6.)

    I'm not bothered, just surprised there have been no such for over a
    week. I've just checked under Settings | Updates, and it still says
    "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended Security Updates.", and
    "You're up
    to date\Last checked Yesterday, 21:33" (i. e. 2026-1-1). I just
    clicked
    Check for updates, and it still says I am (!Today, 11:27").

    Looking at that monitor, I usually only see one Defender Update a day and there
    was one Security Update (KB5068164) and a 'Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub' that I've
    never heard of before on December 30th. I assume the security update was an 'out of
    bounds' one because they're normally on the second tuesday of the month of course.
    I've never heard of any of the other updates you mention and the only 'Critical Event' crashes i can see are from external programs that I already knew about.
    This is on W10 Professional on the ESU program.
    --
    Regards
    John
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jan 2 12:37:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    John K.Eason wrote on 1/2/2026 12:21 PM:
    In article <10j8a59$tvb$2@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk (J. P. Gilliver) wrote:

    *From:* "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
    *Date:* Fri, 2 Jan 2026 11:28:41 +0000

    I've just brought up Reliability Monitor (type reli into the search
    box
    and select View reliability history), as something prompted me to in
    another newsgroup.

    It shows what's been happening the last few days - Application
    failures,
    Windows failures, Miscellaneous failures, Warnings, and Information.

    I normally expect to see some entry every day or two - in my case
    there's usually a WinAmp failure most days (I don't know why and am
    not
    bothered), and in Information blob (which resolves into Windows
    Updates)
    about every two days.

    But I'm seeing a clean slate for the last 8 days. The last
    information
    blob was Christmas day - when there were 19 "Successful Windows
    Update"s. (MixedReality Portal, MICROSOFT.PEOPLE,
    MicrosoftStickyNotes,
    Microsoft.BingSearch, BingWeather, WINDOWSALARMS, ZUNEVIDEO,
    DevHome,
    XboxGamingOverlay, WINDOWSCAMERA, ZUNEMUSIC, WINDOWSCALCULATOR,
    ScreenSketch, Copilot, CrossDevice, WindowsFeedbackHub, YourPhone,
    StorePurchaseApp, and MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB. (19 is a lot; it's
    usually 0
    to 6.)

    I'm not bothered, just surprised there have been no such for over a
    week. I've just checked under Settings | Updates, and it still says
    "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended Security Updates.", and
    "You're up
    to date\Last checked Yesterday, 21:33" (i. e. 2026-1-1). I just
    clicked
    Check for updates, and it still says I am (!Today, 11:27").

    Looking at that monitor, I usually only see one Defender Update a day and there
    was one Security Update (KB5068164) and a 'Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub' that I've
    never heard of before on December 30th. I assume the security update was an 'out of
    bounds' one because they're normally on the second tuesday of the month of course.
    I've never heard of any of the other updates you mention and the only 'Critical
    Event' crashes i can see are from external programs that I already knew about.
    This is on W10 Professional on the ESU program.


    Fyi....KB5068164 is a Windows Recovery(WinRE file) update.
    You'll have to use Powershell or Command.com to determine the status
    and version/build.
    - Win10 ESU, afiak, will continue to include WinRE updates packaged
    with the security update.
    --
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  • From john@john@jeason.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Jan 3 12:06:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    In article <10j96p9$ljj3$1@dont-email.me>, winstonmvp@gmail.com (...wi+o#n+) wrote:


    Fyi....KB5068164 is a Windows Recovery(WinRE file) update.
    You'll have to use Powershell or Command.com to determine the
    status and version/build.
    - Win10 ESU, afiak, will continue to include WinRE updates
    packaged with the security update.

    Ah ok. I've never had occasion to need to recover Windows in the 8 years or so that it's been on this PC so I assumed it was a 'normal' update.
    --
    Regards
    John
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Jan 3 15:10:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Sat, 1/3/2026 7:06 AM, John K.Eason wrote:
    In article <10j96p9$ljj3$1@dont-email.me>, winstonmvp@gmail.com (...w-i|#-o-#-n|#) wrote:


    Fyi....KB5068164 is a Windows Recovery(WinRE file) update.
    You'll have to use Powershell or Command.com to determine the
    status and version/build.
    - Win10 ESU, afiak, will continue to include WinRE updates
    packaged with the security update.

    Ah ok. I've never had occasion to need to recover Windows in the 8 years or so
    that it's been on this PC so I assumed it was a 'normal' update.


    Just for the record, we don't care whether WinRE is up to date or
    not. What we do care about, is when one of those updates
    jams up Windows Update and prevents other, more important,
    updates from getting into the machine.

    I don't think I've ever seen any WinRE activity attempting
    any sort of "recovery", actually work. It would be interesting
    if someone had a success-case when that happens, and the
    spinning balls are pretending to be doing something when
    the OS tips over. It would be so so much better, if the
    spinning balls thing just printed some text representing
    the current activity (like scanning something or tasting
    all the files, or so on, maybe a 3 second or 3 hour time estimate
    as to how much scanning was left to do). At least that would prove it
    wasn't just stuck, doing nothing nothing nothing at all.

    Paul
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