From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

This is a question about Windows 10 support when you install or repair
Windows 10, today, using an old circa 2019 single-layer DVD ISO?
1909 (November 2019 Update) => 22H2 (October 2022 Update)
Given that Windows 10 support had ended on October 14, 2025
and assuming you haven't signed up for the 1-year of extended support.

In a recent thread I outlined why this question is being asked:
From: Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Tutorial: How to DIRECTLY download the full 5.7GB Windows 10
Offline ISO (bypassing Media Creation Tool)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 01:16:25 -0700
Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com)
Message-ID: <10itdcp$1vuo$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Fundamentally, I dodged that bullet by putting the latest Windows 10 ISO
onto a >8GB bootable flash drive (using Rufus to do all the heavy lifting).

But the whole time I was wondering if by installing a circa 2019 Windows 10 ISO, whether or not Microsoft would update it to 22H2 (i.e., the final
Windows 10 release) given we have not signed up for the support extension).

Q: Does Microsoft update an older 1909 install to 22H2?
A: Probably. But has anyone ever tested that out recently?

Note that I assume Microsoft WILL update any old Windows 10 to 22H2,
but I don't know if they will update any old Windows 10 to 22H2.

Also note this brings up another potential "trick" which is to "repair" any Windows 10 installation AFTER October 14 2025 with the "latest Win10 ISO".

That is, maybe we can get all the latest updates (without being in the extended-support program) up to early October 2026 by simply using the
latest ISO of that time in the future, to "repair" our Windows 10 setup.

Dunno.
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On Tue, 12/30/2025 2:04 PM, Marian wrote:

This is a question about Windows 10 support when you install or repair Windows 10, today, using an old circa 2019 single-layer DVD ISO?
1909 (November 2019 Update) => 22H2 (October 2022 Update)
Given that Windows 10 support had ended on October 14, 2025 and assuming you haven't signed up for the 1-year of extended support.

In a recent thread I outlined why this question is being asked:
From: Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Tutorial: How to DIRECTLY download the full 5.7GB Windows 10
Offline ISO (bypassing Media Creation Tool)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 01:16:25 -0700
Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <10itdcp$1vuo$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Fundamentally, I dodged that bullet by putting the latest Windows 10 ISO
onto a >8GB bootable flash drive (using Rufus to do all the heavy lifting).

But the whole time I was wondering if by installing a circa 2019 Windows 10 ISO, whether or not Microsoft would update it to 22H2 (i.e., the final Windows 10 release) given we have not signed up for the support extension).

Q: Does Microsoft update an older 1909 install to 22H2?
A: Probably. But has anyone ever tested that out recently?

Note that I assume Microsoft WILL update any old Windows 10 to 22H2, but I don't know if they will update any old Windows 10 to 22H2.

Also note this brings up another potential "trick" which is to "repair" any Windows 10 installation AFTER October 14 2025 with the "latest Win10 ISO".

That is, maybe we can get all the latest updates (without being in the extended-support program) up to early October 2026 by simply using the
latest ISO of that time in the future, to "repair" our Windows 10 setup.

Dunno.

You should install old media, with the network cable disconnected.

This prevents the installer from attempting to download 22H2 to replace
your entire session :-/ The installer had in-flight upgrade capability
for some number of years.

As a test, some Insider versions had DVD files with short duration signing,
and the DVD would no longer boot for fresh installs, past a certain date.
I've not heard of any other media situations where that was employed.

Paul
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Paul wrote:

That is, maybe we can get all the latest updates (without being in the
extended-support program) up to early October 2026 by simply using the
latest ISO of that time in the future, to "repair" our Windows 10 setup.

Dunno.

You should install old media, with the network cable disconnected.

This prevents the installer from attempting to download 22H2 to replace
your entire session :-/ The installer had in-flight upgrade capability
for some number of years.

As a test, some Insider versions had DVD files with short duration signing, and the DVD would no longer boot for fresh installs, past a certain date. I've not heard of any other media situations where that was employed.

Hi Paul,

Happy New Year!

Thanks for the warning of the "in-flight" switcheroo!

I should have noted that we refused the network connection near the
beginning of the installation process, as that's just habit learned the
hard way. So I was unaware of this "in-flight" switcheroo you speak of.

I believe you though.
Oh, I believe you.

So I'm glad, out of sheer habit, we refused not only all the telemetry options, but also we didn't sign onto the network until we set up Windows
10 the way we wanted it to be set up (specifically with a local account).

I also wasn't aware of time-limited DVD ISO installs either, so that's
another potential gotcha, but these were official release ISOs luckily.

I've been googling the problem set, and I think no matter what DVD ISO we
use to install/repair Windows 10, that Microsoft updates it to 22H2 anyway.

Windows 10 1909 is not eligible for the "enablement package" shortcut.
Only versions 2004 -> 22H2 can use the tiny KB5015684 switch.
So if we install 1909, Windows Update will:
a. Download the full 22H2 feature update (3-4 GB)
b. Perform a full in-place upgrade
c. Reboot several times
d. And finally, land us on 22H2
<https://www.tenforums.com/installation-upgrade/217416-updating-windows-10-1909-22h2.html>

BTW, THANK GOD we didn't try to install while we were connected to the net!
As you noted, "in-flight" upgrades may very well have been substituted.
Which would have taken forever when we least had the patience to wait.
As we didn't know if the repair was gonna work at that early stage.

Thanks for the warning of the "in-flight" switcheroo!

Luckily, we dodged that one by habitually never turning on the net until necessary, and certainly it wasn't necessary while we were installing.
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On 31/12/2025 3:04 am, Marian wrote:

That is, maybe we can get all the latest updates (without being in the extended-support program) up to early October 2026 by simply using the
latest ISO of that time in the future, to "repair" our Windows 10 setup.

Dunno.

Using the most recent Win 10 ISO should save you some download and installation time during updating.

I think older Win 10s booted faster. Not so sure... never timed it.
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Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 31/12/2025 3:04 am, Marian wrote:

That is, maybe we can get all the latest updates (without being in the extended-support program) up to early October 2026 by simply using the latest ISO of that time in the future, to "repair" our Windows 10 setup.

Dunno.

Using the most recent Win 10 ISO should save you some download and installation time during updating.

I think older Win 10s booted faster. Not so sure... never timed it.

And easily let you make local accounts! ;)
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On 3/1/2026 9:59 am, Ant wrote:

And easily let you make local accounts! ;)

I think Win 8 booted faster than all versions of Win 10. Again, I didn't
time it.

On local account:

You can always unplug the LAN cable. You can refuse wireless networking.
You can choose not to use 5G. Then you have a truely offline Windows.

I dunno why Micro$oft is so confident that Windows has to be online,
other than stalking everyone's online life.

Seriously, offline life might make you healthier. :)
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