• Re: Discussion: How to set up your mobile devices & home router for privacy/security

    From Police Officer@policeman@fbi.gov to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Thu Dec 18 22:26:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On 17/12/2025 15:21, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    I was not "discussing" your wife.


    He hasn't got a wife. He's got young boys for his pleasure. He teaches
    them how to sit straight on his laps when he is abusing them.



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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless on Fri Dec 19 00:20:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Thu, 12/18/2025 4:29 PM, Marian wrote:
    Marian wrote:
    -a BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
    -a Latitude: 32.45985031
    -a Longitude: -93.81759643000001
    -a -a BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
    -a Latitude: 32.4594841
    -a Longitude: -93.8175888
    -a -a BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
    -a Latitude: 32.4594841
    -a Longitude: -93.81756591
    -a -a BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
    -a Latitude: 32.45910644
    -a Longitude: -93.81759643000001

    Does anyone have any idea why the highly insecure Apple WPS database
    contains GPS entries to this illogically numerous set of decimal places?

    It's a lab accident. Beakers hair is on fire now.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Beaker_%28Muppet%29-en.jpg

    If the database does not sanitize inputs, a thing like that could happen. (Storing data as strings, not as numbers.)

    If multiple BSSID reports with slightly varying GPS coords come in,
    some sort of math could average the coordinates or so.

    It's just as likely to be a not-representable-number problem, but
    you would need to find a better "calc" to work on that aspect.

    It really amounts to some sort of sloppy workmanship.

    Paul

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless on Fri Dec 19 10:08:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 12/18/2025 4:29 PM, Marian wrote:
    Marian wrote:
    -a BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
    -a Latitude: 32.45985031
    -a Longitude: -93.81759643000001
    -a -a BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
    -a Latitude: 32.4594841
    -a Longitude: -93.8175888
    -a -a BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
    -a Latitude: 32.4594841
    -a Longitude: -93.81756591
    -a -a BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
    -a Latitude: 32.45910644
    -a Longitude: -93.81759643000001

    Does anyone have any idea why the highly insecure Apple WPS database
    contains GPS entries to this illogically numerous set of decimal places?

    It's a lab accident. Beakers hair is on fire now.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Beaker_%28Muppet%29-en.jpg

    If the database does not sanitize inputs, a thing like that could happen. (Storing data as strings, not as numbers.)

    If multiple BSSID reports with slightly varying GPS coords come in,
    some sort of math could average the coordinates or so.

    It's just as likely to be a not-representable-number problem, but
    you would need to find a better "calc" to work on that aspect.

    It really amounts to some sort of sloppy workmanship.

    Correct. Which has been highlighted to Donald. The GPS coords are converted
    to floats thereby introducing imprecision and he reports them unrounded.

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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless on Fri Dec 19 08:37:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    Chris wrote:
    It really amounts to some sort of sloppy workmanship.

    Correct. Which has been highlighted to Donald. The GPS coords are converted to floats thereby introducing imprecision and he reports them unrounded.

    Having an undergrad degree in the sciences (with a grad degree in engineering), I'm very familiar with Paul's "lab accident"
    characterization, which I appreciate, since credibility of good results is
    all that I care for.

    Hence, I've modified the two scripts to produce both the ORIGINAL data
    found in Apple's highly insecure WPS database that computers use, and the GPS-lookup-usable conversions to decimal places that humans use.

    Here is a snippet of the results when looking up this particular BSSID
    which happens to be located in Chris Hayes Recreation Center in Mooetown Park in Shreveport, Louisiana, near the Shreveport Regional Airport
    <https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=32.459904,-93.813843>
    bssid.bat
    Enter the BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

    You'll get a map of where that AP is in that building, plus a listing
    of up to 400 nearby access point locations (which fermium can map en masse).

    Enter the BSSID (or q to quit): 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65 -----------------------------------------------
    === Lookup started at Fri 12/19/2025 8:28:03.55 ===
    BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

    Searching for location of bssid: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

    BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
    Raw latitude integer: 3245990371
    Raw longitude integer: -9381384277
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459904
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813843

    BSSID: 02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245890808
    Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458908
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

    BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:58
    Raw latitude integer: 3245909881
    Raw longitude integer: -9381492614
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459099
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814926

    BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:5b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245910644
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459106
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:5d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245910644
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459106
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

    BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:5e
    Raw latitude integer: 3245911026
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459110
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245891952
    Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458920
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

    BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245920944
    Raw longitude integer: -9381445312
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459209
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814453

    BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245919036
    Raw longitude integer: -9381446838
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459190
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814468

    BSSID: ec:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245891571
    Raw longitude integer: -9381494140
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458916
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814941

    BSSID: fa:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245891571
    Raw longitude integer: -9381493377
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458916
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814934

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:7d:3d:b1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245915603
    Raw longitude integer: -9381276702
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459156
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812767

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:7d:3d:b2
    Raw latitude integer: 3245915222
    Raw longitude integer: -9381278228
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459152
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812782

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:7d:3d:b6
    Raw latitude integer: 3245914840
    Raw longitude integer: -9381275177
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459148
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812752

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:c2:2c:01
    Raw latitude integer: 3245956802
    Raw longitude integer: -9381256103
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459568
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812561

    BSSID: 12:59:32:64:b2:bc
    Raw latitude integer: 3245960617
    Raw longitude integer: -9381244659
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459606
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812447

    BSSID: 14:c0:3e:38:ef:36
    Raw latitude integer: 3245923614
    Raw longitude integer: -9381269073
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459236
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812691

    BSSID: 16:c0:3e:38:ef:36
    Raw latitude integer: 3245925140
    Raw longitude integer: -9381269836
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459251
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812698

    BSSID: 1a:c0:3e:38:ef:36
    Raw latitude integer: 3245925140
    Raw longitude integer: -9381269073
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459251
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812691

    BSSID: 02:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245920181
    Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459202
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

    BSSID: 38:17:b1:28:28:46
    Raw latitude integer: 3245931625
    Raw longitude integer: -9381245422
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459316
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812454

    BSSID: 40:48:6e:f1:9f:34
    Raw latitude integer: 3245958328
    Raw longitude integer: -9381306457
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459583
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813065

    BSSID: 42:17:b1:28:28:46
    Raw latitude integer: 3245932388
    Raw longitude integer: -9381243133
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459324
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812431

    BSSID: 46:d8:78:a3:03:a3
    Raw latitude integer: 3245965576
    Raw longitude integer: -9381226348
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459656
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812263

    BSSID: 5c:b0:66:13:26:c1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245907974
    Raw longitude integer: -9381227874
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459080
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812279

    BSSID: 5e:b0:66:13:26:c1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245907592
    Raw longitude integer: -9381227111
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459076
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812271

    BSSID: 06:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245920181
    Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459202
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

    BSSID: 72:13:01:46:3c:c1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245978546
    Raw longitude integer: -9381228637
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459785
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812286

    BSSID: 72:13:01:46:3c:c6
    Raw latitude integer: 3245979690
    Raw longitude integer: -9381228637
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459797
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812286

    BSSID: 7e:b0:66:13:26:c1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245907211
    Raw longitude integer: -9381227874
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459072
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812279

    BSSID: 88:ad:43:48:4a:a8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245934295
    Raw longitude integer: -9381259918
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459343
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812599

    BSSID: 8c:76:3f:b7:b7:97
    Raw latitude integer: 3245985412
    Raw longitude integer: -9381255340
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459854
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812553

    BSSID: 8e:76:3f:b7:b7:97
    Raw latitude integer: 3245984649
    Raw longitude integer: -9381256103
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459846
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812561

    BSSID: 96:76:3f:b7:b7:97
    Raw latitude integer: 3245984649
    Raw longitude integer: -9381255340
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459846
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812553

    BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:4c
    Raw latitude integer: 3245908737
    Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459087
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

    BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:4f
    Raw latitude integer: 3245908355
    Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459084
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

    BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:51
    Raw latitude integer: 3245908355
    Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459084
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

    BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:52
    Raw latitude integer: 3245908737
    Raw longitude integer: -9381268310
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459087
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812683

    BSSID: 9e:ad:43:48:4a:a8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245934677
    Raw longitude integer: -9381259918
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459347
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812599

    BSSID: 9e:b0:66:13:26:c1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245907211
    Raw longitude integer: -9381227874
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459072
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812279

    BSSID: ac:91:9b:c6:7d:d2
    Raw latitude integer: 3245978927
    Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459789
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

    BSSID: b2:4f:b8:7f:cb:83
    Raw latitude integer: 3245938873
    Raw longitude integer: -9381260681
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459389
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812607

    BSSID: ce:6c:6d:83:12:4d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245933151
    Raw longitude integer: -9381253051
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459332
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812531

    BSSID: d4:6c:6d:83:12:4d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245931243
    Raw longitude integer: -9381252288
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459312
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812523

    BSSID: d6:6c:6d:83:12:4d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245933914
    Raw longitude integer: -9381251525
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459339
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812515

    BSSID: da:13:99:28:92:b0
    Raw latitude integer: 3245917510
    Raw longitude integer: -9381269836
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459175
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812698

    BSSID: e8:97:b8:8e:5d:0a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245927047
    Raw longitude integer: -9381250000
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459270
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812500

    BSSID: 0e:c0:3e:38:ef:36
    Raw latitude integer: 3245924758
    Raw longitude integer: -9381269073
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459248
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812691

    BSSID: ec:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245919418
    Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459194
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

    BSSID: f4:0e:83:d7:fb:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245946121
    Raw longitude integer: -9381263732
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459461
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812637

    BSSID: fa:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245920181
    Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459202
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

    BSSID: fc:ae:34:94:57:f0
    Raw latitude integer: 3245948028
    Raw longitude integer: -9381231689
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459480
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812317

    BSSID: fe:ae:34:94:57:f1
    Raw latitude integer: 3245947265
    Raw longitude integer: -9381232452
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459473
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812325

    BSSID: 00:71:c2:b2:32:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245960998
    Raw longitude integer: -9381239318
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459610
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812393

    BSSID: 16:71:c2:b2:32:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245961761
    Raw longitude integer: -9381238555
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459618
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812386

    BSSID: 1a:71:c2:b2:32:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245961761
    Raw longitude integer: -9381238555
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459618
    Longitude (degrees): -93.812386

    BSSID: 10:93:97:0a:e7:80
    Raw latitude integer: 3245982742
    Raw longitude integer: -9381553649
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459827
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815536

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:39
    Raw latitude integer: 3245925140
    Raw longitude integer: -9381566619
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459251
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815666

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245926284
    Raw longitude integer: -9381568908
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459263
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815689

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245923614
    Raw longitude integer: -9381565856
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459236
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815659

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3e
    Raw latitude integer: 3245925521
    Raw longitude integer: -9381567382
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459255
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815674

    BSSID: 12:36:aa:85:84:c9
    Raw latitude integer: 3245957183
    Raw longitude integer: -9381577301
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459572
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815773

    BSSID: 18:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245976257
    Raw longitude integer: -9381594085
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459763
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815941

    BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:42
    Raw latitude integer: 3245947265
    Raw longitude integer: -9381558227
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459473
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815582

    BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:43
    Raw latitude integer: 3245948028
    Raw longitude integer: -9381558227
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459480
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815582

    BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:45
    Raw latitude integer: 3245947265
    Raw longitude integer: -9381559753
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459473
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815598

    BSSID: 36:e6:e6:86:cd:1c
    Raw latitude integer: 3245981216
    Raw longitude integer: -9381570434
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459812
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815704

    BSSID: 3a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245977020
    Raw longitude integer: -9381596374
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459770
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815964

    BSSID: 5a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245976257
    Raw longitude integer: -9381596374
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459763
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815964

    BSSID: 8c:85:80:e4:35:dd
    Raw latitude integer: 3245977783
    Raw longitude integer: -9381558990
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459778
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815590

    BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:21:c8:80
    Raw latitude integer: 3245982742
    Raw longitude integer: -9381554412
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459827
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815544

    BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245903778
    Raw longitude integer: -9381518554
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459038
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815186

    BSSID: 8e:76:3f:d4:13:8d
    Raw latitude integer: 3245978164
    Raw longitude integer: -9381594085
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459782
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815941

    BSSID: 94:a6:7e:31:02:35
    Raw latitude integer: 3245890045
    Raw longitude integer: -9381510162
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458900
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815102

    BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:21:c8:80
    Raw latitude integer: 3245982742
    Raw longitude integer: -9381554412
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459827
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815544

    BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245905303
    Raw longitude integer: -9381518554
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459053
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815186

    BSSID: a2:0f:6f:21:c8:80
    Raw latitude integer: 3245982360
    Raw longitude integer: -9381554412
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459824
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815544

    BSSID: a2:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245904541
    Raw longitude integer: -9381518554
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459045
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815186

    BSSID: a6:0f:6f:21:c8:80
    Raw latitude integer: 3245983123
    Raw longitude integer: -9381557464
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459831
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815575

    BSSID: a6:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3245905685
    Raw longitude integer: -9381520080
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459057
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815201

    BSSID: be:61:e9:cd:aa:a8
    Raw latitude integer: 3245882415
    Raw longitude integer: -9381622314
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458824
    Longitude (degrees): -93.816223

    BSSID: ca:3a:6b:db:9b:ba
    Raw latitude integer: 3245902252
    Raw longitude integer: -9381513977
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459023
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815140

    BSSID: ce:6c:6d:53:02:e5
    Raw latitude integer: 3245964050
    Raw longitude integer: -9381594848
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459640
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815948

    BSSID: d4:6c:6d:53:02:e5
    Raw latitude integer: 3245963287
    Raw longitude integer: -9381592559
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459633
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815926

    BSSID: d6:6c:6d:53:02:e5
    Raw latitude integer: 3245962142
    Raw longitude integer: -9381593322
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459621
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815933

    BSSID: da:e3:5e:f7:08:87
    Raw latitude integer: 3245980834
    Raw longitude integer: -9381555938
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459808
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815559

    BSSID: f8:aa:3f:fe:b2:1e
    Raw latitude integer: 3245905303
    Raw longitude integer: -9381512451
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459053
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815125

    BSSID: 4e:6b:b8:aa:8c:80
    Raw latitude integer: 3245885086
    Raw longitude integer: -9381540679
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458851
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815407

    BSSID: 78:b2:13:e7:91:39
    Raw latitude integer: 3245882797
    Raw longitude integer: -9381607055
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458828
    Longitude (degrees): -93.816071

    BSSID: 9e:b3:f7:21:91:e7
    Raw latitude integer: 3245910263
    Raw longitude integer: -9381617736
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459103
    Longitude (degrees): -93.816177

    BSSID: ce:8b:66:31:a1:df
    Raw latitude integer: 3245933151
    Raw longitude integer: -9381556701
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459332
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815567

    BSSID: 80:30:dc:c2:05:26
    Raw latitude integer: 3245886993
    Raw longitude integer: -9381635284
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458870
    Longitude (degrees): -93.816353

    BSSID: 6e:29:90:f7:23:74
    Raw latitude integer: 3245903396
    Raw longitude integer: -9381517791
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459034
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815178

    BSSID: 0c:73:29:ff:29:93
    Raw latitude integer: 3245893096
    Raw longitude integer: -9381542968
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458931
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815430

    BSSID: 7e:27:bc:95:f5:35
    Raw latitude integer: 3245974349
    Raw longitude integer: -9381566619
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459743
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815666

    BSSID: 00:cb:7a:d0:d1:42
    Raw latitude integer: 3245967102
    Raw longitude integer: -9381575775
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459671
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815758

    BSSID: 00:cb:7a:d0:d1:47
    Raw latitude integer: 3245966720
    Raw longitude integer: -9381576538
    Latitude (degrees): 32.459667
    Longitude (degrees): -93.815765

    BSSID: 2c:7e:81:ab:cd:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245813751
    Raw longitude integer: -9381472778
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458138
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814728

    BSSID: 2c:fb:0f:0f:66:06
    Raw latitude integer: 3245831298
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458313
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

    BSSID: 36:fb:0f:0f:66:06
    Raw latitude integer: 3245833969
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458340
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 4e:7e:81:ab:cd:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245811080
    Raw longitude integer: -9381472778
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458111
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814728

    BSSID: 6e:7e:81:ab:cd:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245812988
    Raw longitude integer: -9381472778
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458130
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814728

    BSSID: 84:00:2d:41:9a:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245840454
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458405
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 88:6a:e3:e0:51:c4
    Raw latitude integer: 3245843887
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458439
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 92:00:2d:41:9a:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245839691
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458397
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 9a:00:2d:41:9a:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245840454
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458405
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 9a:9d:5d:df:f0:6a
    Raw latitude integer: 3245788955
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
    Latitude (degrees): 32.457890
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

    BSSID: 9e:00:2d:41:9a:38
    Raw latitude integer: 3245840072
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458401
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: be:8c:cd:2f:95:16
    Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
    Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

    BSSID: c2:18:03:fb:7c:5e
    Raw latitude integer: 3245796585
    Raw longitude integer: -9381478118
    Latitude (degrees): 32.457966
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814781

    BSSID: 0c:83:cc:c6:58:4f
    Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

    BSSID: ce:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245833587
    Raw longitude integer: -9381475830
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458336
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814758

    BSSID: ce:ab:82:cf:55:98
    Raw latitude integer: 3245824432
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458244
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: d4:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245833206
    Raw longitude integer: -9381475067
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458332
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814751

    BSSID: d4:ab:82:cf:55:98
    Raw latitude integer: 3245824432
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458244
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: d6:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245833969
    Raw longitude integer: -9381475067
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458340
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814751

    BSSID: d6:ab:82:cf:55:98
    Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
    Raw longitude integer: -9381490325
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814903

    BSSID: da:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245833587
    Raw longitude integer: -9381475067
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458336
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814751

    BSSID: da:ab:82:cf:55:98
    Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
    Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

    BSSID: 0e:fe:7b:7e:0e:29
    Raw latitude integer: 3245786666
    Raw longitude integer: -9381475830
    Latitude (degrees): 32.457867
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814758

    BSSID: f8:aa:3f:fe:b2:3b
    Raw latitude integer: 3245837783
    Raw longitude integer: -9381485748
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458378
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814857

    BSSID: 42:9e:9d:73:67:ef
    Raw latitude integer: 3245817947
    Raw longitude integer: -9381486511
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458179
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814865

    BSSID: 6e:57:25:f3:7c:e5
    Raw latitude integer: 3245834732
    Raw longitude integer: -9381487274
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458347
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814873

    BSSID: 9e:73:b1:ef:ad:77
    Raw latitude integer: 3245817184
    Raw longitude integer: -9381499481
    Latitude (degrees): 32.458172
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814995

    BSSID: 1c:56:8e:0b:3b:34
    Raw latitude integer: 3246085739
    Raw longitude integer: -9381424713
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460857
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814247

    BSSID: 24:de:8a:10:6e:a4
    Raw latitude integer: 3246070098
    Raw longitude integer: -9381474304
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460701
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814743

    BSSID: 24:de:8a:60:04:14
    Raw latitude integer: 3246067428
    Raw longitude integer: -9381462860
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460674
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814629

    BSSID: 48:e2:ad:ad:39:f4
    Raw latitude integer: 3246047592
    Raw longitude integer: -9381441497
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460476
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814415

    BSSID: 54:2b:57:35:d6:c5
    Raw latitude integer: 3246046829
    Raw longitude integer: -9381445312
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460468
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814453

    BSSID: 54:b2:03:53:16:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3246035766
    Raw longitude integer: -9381394195
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460358
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813942

    BSSID: 56:2b:57:2f:ff:cf
    Raw latitude integer: 3246062088
    Raw longitude integer: -9381448364
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460621
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814484

    BSSID: 62:b2:03:53:16:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3246036911
    Raw longitude integer: -9381393432
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460369
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813934

    BSSID: 6a:b2:03:53:16:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3246036911
    Raw longitude integer: -9381393432
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460369
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813934

    BSSID: 6e:b2:03:53:16:68
    Raw latitude integer: 3246028518
    Raw longitude integer: -9381393432
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460285
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813934

    BSSID: 82:da:c2:2d:1f:12
    Raw latitude integer: 3246070861
    Raw longitude integer: -9381422424
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460709
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814224

    BSSID: 82:da:c2:2d:1f:15
    Raw latitude integer: 3246070480
    Raw longitude integer: -9381422424
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460705
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814224

    BSSID: c0:94:35:dc:33:1a
    Raw latitude integer: 3246071624
    Raw longitude integer: -9381478881
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460716
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814789

    BSSID: ce:94:35:dc:33:1a
    Raw latitude integer: 3246070861
    Raw longitude integer: -9381479644
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460709
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814796

    BSSID: d6:94:35:dc:33:1a
    Raw latitude integer: 3246070861
    Raw longitude integer: -9381478881
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460709
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814789

    BSSID: 28:c2:dd:dc:c9:b8
    Raw latitude integer: 3246021270
    Raw longitude integer: -9381389617
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460213
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813896

    BSSID: 30:13:8b:2b:28:10
    Raw latitude integer: 3246051025
    Raw longitude integer: -9381438446
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460510
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814384

    BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:18:7c:00
    Raw latitude integer: 3246034240
    Raw longitude integer: -9381385803
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460342
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813858

    BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:18:7c:00
    Raw latitude integer: 3246034622
    Raw longitude integer: -9381387329
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460346
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813873

    BSSID: a2:0f:6f:18:7c:00
    Raw latitude integer: 3246035003
    Raw longitude integer: -9381387329
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460350
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813873

    BSSID: a6:0f:6f:18:7c:00
    Raw latitude integer: 3246034622
    Raw longitude integer: -9381386566
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460346
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813866

    BSSID: 2a:ad:18:fc:8b:1f
    Raw latitude integer: 3246102142
    Raw longitude integer: -9381381988
    Latitude (degrees): 32.461021
    Longitude (degrees): -93.813820

    BSSID: 3a:e7:c0:83:c1:a7
    Raw latitude integer: 3246105575
    Raw longitude integer: -9381404876
    Latitude (degrees): 32.461056
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814049

    BSSID: c6:98:5c:db:c2:43
    Raw latitude integer: 3246094512
    Raw longitude integer: -9381495666
    Latitude (degrees): 32.460945
    Longitude (degrees): -93.814957
    -----------------------------------------------
    [DEBUG] Found block start for 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
    [DEBUG] Line in block: Raw latitude integer: 3245990371
    [DEBUG] Line in block: Raw longitude integer: -9381384277
    [DEBUG] Line in block: Latitude (degrees): 32.459904
    [DEBUG] Parsed LAT candidate = "32.459904"
    [DEBUG] Line in block: Longitude (degrees): -93.813843
    [DEBUG] Parsed LON candidate = "-93.813843"
    [DEBUG] Final LAT = "32.459904"
    [DEBUG] Final LON = "-93.813843" -----------------------------------------------

    @echo off
    setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
    :: C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssid.bat
    :: Use: bssid.bat <Enter> (then enter desired BSSID to look up)
    :: Sample values:
    :: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
    :: 00:07:89:d7:82:e8
    :: 04:09:A5:3B:34:67
    ::
    :: Logs up to 400 BSSID:GPS pairs from Apple's WPS public database
    :: Loop until user types q
    ::
    :: Changelog:
    :: v1p0 20251205 - Query Apple's highly insecure WPS database
    :: v1p1 20251214 - Saves to time-date stamped results.txt log file
    :: v1p2 20251215 - Timestamp results.txt so it's not overwritten
    :: v1p3 20251219 - Limit to 6 decimal places (as per Chris/Paul/Tyrone)
    :: v1p4 20251219 - Show original raw integers + converted decimals
    :: v1p5 20251219 - Tried to accomodate Google Maps query to new format
    :: v1p6 20251219 - Changed to block-aware parsing with debug output
    :: v1p7 20251219 - Enable delayed expansion to fix parsing inside loops

    set LOGDIR=%~dp0log
    if not exist "%LOGDIR%" mkdir "%LOGDIR%"

    :: Create a unique session log (YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS)
    for /f %%A in ('wmic os get localdatetime ^| find "."') do set dt0=%%A
    set "session_ts=%dt0:~0,8%_%dt0:~8,6%"
    set "session_log=%LOGDIR%\session_%session_ts%.log"

    echo === New BSSID lookup session started at %date% %time% === >> "%session_log%"

    echo.
    echo === Nearby Wi-Fi Networks ===
    netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid
    echo =============================

    :loop
    echo.
    set /p BSSID=Enter the BSSID (or q to quit):

    if /I "%BSSID%"=="q" goto end

    :: --- Clean up input ---
    set "BSSID=%BSSID:"=%"
    set "BSSID=%BSSID: =%"

    :: --- Make filename-safe version ---
    set "safeBSSID=%BSSID::=-%"

    :: --- Generate timestamp for THIS lookup ---
    for /f %%A in ('wmic os get localdatetime ^| find "."') do set dt=%%A
    set "ts=%dt:~0,8%_%dt:~8,6%"

    :: --- Timestamped output file ---
    set "outfile=%LOGDIR%\bssid_%safeBSSID%_%ts%.txt"

    :: --- Clear previous coordinates ---
    set "LAT="
    set "LON="

    echo === Lookup started at %date% %time% === > "%outfile%"
    echo BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%outfile%"
    echo. >> "%outfile%"

    :: --- Run Python lookup ---
    python.exe apple_bssid_locator.py %BSSID% --all >> "%outfile%"

    :: --- Display results ---
    echo -----------------------------------------------
    type "%outfile%"
    echo -----------------------------------------------

    :: --- Block-aware parsing of coordinates (with delayed expansion) ---
    set "CAPTURE="
    set "LAT="
    set "LON="

    for /f "usebackq delims=" %%L in ("%outfile%") do (
    if /i "%%L"=="BSSID: %BSSID%" (
    set "CAPTURE=1"
    set "LAT="
    set "LON="
    echo [DEBUG] Found block start for %BSSID%
    ) else if defined CAPTURE (
    echo [DEBUG] Line in block: %%L

    echo %%L | findstr /i /c:"Latitude (degrees):" >nul
    if not errorlevel 1 (
    for /f "tokens=2 delims=:" %%A in ("%%L") do set "LAT=%%A"
    if defined LAT set "LAT=!LAT: =!"
    echo [DEBUG] Parsed LAT candidate = "!LAT!"
    )

    echo %%L | findstr /i /c:"Longitude (degrees):" >nul
    if not errorlevel 1 (
    for /f "tokens=2 delims=:" %%B in ("%%L") do set "LON=%%B"
    if defined LON set "LON=!LON: =!"
    echo [DEBUG] Parsed LON candidate = "!LON!"
    )

    if defined LAT if defined LON (
    goto :gotCoords
    )

    echo %%L | findstr /i /c:"BSSID:" >nul
    if not errorlevel 1 (
    set "CAPTURE="
    )
    )
    )

    :gotCoords
    echo [DEBUG] Final LAT = "!LAT!"
    echo [DEBUG] Final LON = "!LON!"

    :: --- Validate parsed coordinates ---
    if not defined LAT echo [DEBUG][ERROR] Latitude not captured. Check Python output format near "BSSID: %BSSID%".
    if not defined LON echo [DEBUG][ERROR] Longitude not captured. Check Python output format near "BSSID: %BSSID%".

    :: --- Save results ---
    echo === Lookup finished at %date% %time% === >> "%outfile%"
    echo. >> "%outfile%"

    :: --- Append to session log ---
    echo [%date% %time%] BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%session_log%"
    echo Latitude: !LAT! >> "%session_log%"
    echo Longitude: !LON! >> "%session_log%"
    echo. >> "%session_log%"

    :: --- Append to master log ---
    echo [%date% %time%] BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"
    echo Latitude: !LAT! >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"
    echo Longitude: !LON! >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"
    echo. >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"

    :: --- Open in Google Maps ---
    if defined LAT if defined LON start msedge "https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=!LAT!,!LON!"

    goto loop

    :end
    echo Exiting. Goodbye!
    endlocal

    :: end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssid.bat
    #!/usr/bin/env -S uv run --script
    # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
    # C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\apple_bssid_locator.py
    # Queries Apple WPS database for GPS:BSSID location pairs
    # Implementation based on https://github.com/hubert3/iSniff-GPS
    #
    # Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC
    # Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC --all
    # Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC --map
    #
    # Changelog:
    # v1p0 20251205 - Initial version
    # v1p1 20251214 - Added logging to results.txt
    # v1p2 20251215 - Timestamped results.txt to avoid overwrites
    # v1p3 20251219 - Limited output to 6 decimal places
    # v1p4 20251219 - Added raw integer output alongside converted decimals

    import argparse
    import requests
    import webbrowser
    import AppleWLoc_pb2

    def parse_arguments():
    parser = argparse.ArgumentParser()
    parser.add_argument("bssid", type=str, help="display the location of the bssid")
    parser.add_argument("-m", "--map", help="shows the location on google maps", action='store_true')
    parser.add_argument("-a", "--all", help="shows all results returned, not just the requested one", action='store_true')
    args = parser.parse_args()
    return args

    def format_bssid(bssid):
    return ':'.join(e.rjust(2, '0') for e in bssid.split(':'))

    def query_bssid(bssid, output_file="results.txt"):
    apple_wloc = AppleWLoc_pb2.AppleWLoc()
    wifi_device = apple_wloc.wifi_devices.add()
    wifi_device.bssid = bssid
    apple_wloc.unknown_value1 = 0
    apple_wloc.return_single_result = 0 # request ALL results
    serialized_apple_wloc = apple_wloc.SerializeToString()
    length_serialized_apple_wloc = len(serialized_apple_wloc)

    headers = {'User-Agent':'locationd/1753.17 CFNetwork/889.9 Darwin/17.2.0'}
    data = b"\x00\x01\x00\x05"+b"en_US"+b"\x00\x13"+b"com.apple.locationd"+b"\x00\x0a"+b"8.1.12B411"+b"\x00\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00" + bytes((length_serialized_apple_wloc,)) + serialized_apple_wloc
    r = requests.post('https://gs-loc.apple.com/clls/wloc', headers=headers, data=data)

    apple_wloc = AppleWLoc_pb2.AppleWLoc()
    apple_wloc.ParseFromString(r.content[10:])

    # Build dictionary of results
    results = {}
    with open(output_file, "w") as f:
    for wifi_device in apple_wloc.wifi_devices:
    if wifi_device.HasField('location'):
    raw_lat = wifi_device.location.latitude
    raw_lon = wifi_device.location.longitude
    lat = raw_lat * 1e-8
    lon = raw_lon * 1e-8
    mac = format_bssid(wifi_device.bssid)
    results[mac] = (lat, lon, raw_lat, raw_lon)
    # Write both raw integers and converted decimals
    f.write(f"{mac}\t{raw_lat}\t{raw_lon}\t{lat:.6f}\t{lon:.6f}\n")

    print(f"Saved {len(results)} entries to {output_file}")
    return results

    def main():
    args = parse_arguments()
    print("Searching for location of bssid: %s" % args.bssid)
    results = query_bssid(args.bssid)

    # Determine which BSSIDs to process
    bssids_to_process = results.keys() if args.all else [args.bssid.lower()]

    found = False
    for bssid in bssids_to_process:
    if bssid in results:
    lat, lon, raw_lat, raw_lon = results[bssid]
    if lat == -180.0 and lon == -180.0:
    continue # Skip entries that were not found
    if found:
    print()
    print(f"BSSID: {bssid}")
    print(f"Raw latitude integer: {raw_lat}")
    print(f"Raw longitude integer: {raw_lon}")
    print(f"Latitude (degrees): {lat:.6f}")
    print(f"Longitude (degrees): {lon:.6f}")
    if args.map:
    url = f"http://www.google.com/maps/place/{lat:.6f},{lon:.6f}"
    webbrowser.open(url)
    found = True

    if not found:
    print("The bssid was not found.")

    if __name__ == '__main__':
    main()

    # end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\apple_bssid_locator.py
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