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On Mon, 12/15/2025 8:44 PM, Char Jackson wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 21:36:14 +0000, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work. You must have the same Windows Logon username
and password on each device

I don't want to derail any progress being made, but I've never found a requirement to create matching user/pass on the destination PC. When prompted, I simply use credentials that already exist there.

This is a practicality situation.

laptop#1 timmy:12345678
laptop#2 ronald:87654
laptop#3 sally:forth

If instead, you do this

laptop#1 bullwinkle:12321
laptop#2 bullwinkle:12321
laptop#3 bullwinkle:12321

then, all you have to remember, is that one auxiliary account
you set up on each machine.

I expect there are other ways to do this, with Credential Manager,
or with setting up the accounts so they do not support a normal login,
but those are things you can look up if you want.

For example, TrustedInstaller, you can't log into that, it
doesn't have a Home Directory, it only exists as a "token" when
you elevate and impersonate it. That's one of the most baggage-free kinds of account settings.

I *have* made the mistake of doing this.

laptop#1 timmy:12345678
laptop#2 ronald:87654

and I'm sitting at the Daily Driver, pounding in the timmy USER:PASS
and whining that it is rejecting my requests. Then after about
ten minutes of this, it occurred to me that "dammit, this old
machine was set up with ronald". And that's a little lesson
to myself, to clean up my act. That's where these rules of thumb
come from, embarrassing moments where you've forgotten a tiny detail.

People who run Password-less, yes, maybe at some level, the
software seems to support that. But just as easily, when the
26H1 Upgrade comes in, my Password-less setup could fail
to work. As a practical matter, you configure your systems
so you are not constantly treading on some knife-edge and
cutting yourself.

Paul
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On 15/12/2025 22:36, Graham J wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work.-a You must have the same Windows Logon username
and password on each device

On my own laptop I have the same user name and password as on my pc.
But it won't work.

Fokke
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On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

On Mon, 12/15/2025 3:38 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 15:20, Frank Slootweg wrote:

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-a-a-a That's why we pointed Fokke to his old thread. It was tens and tens of
posts, possibly over a hundred. And we're supposed to do that all again? >>>>>
[...]

No, ofcourse not. I can't remember so many posts, but somehow it did not >>>> work for me.

-a-a As far as I know, and the others seem to think so too, your problem >>> *was* resolved at the time. Hence our criticism.

-a-a Anyway, did you followup on the - snipped - articles which Paul and I >>> posted?

-a-a As to "I can't remember so many posts": This wan't just any thread, it
was a very, very long and painful one, so you should have saved the
information or try to find it back.

I will try to find it back.

Fokke

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
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From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # 216 posts later... Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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Paul

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

Fokke
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On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

On Mon, 12/15/2025 3:38 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 15:20, Frank Slootweg wrote:

<cut>

-a-a-a That's why we pointed Fokke to his old thread. It was tens and tens of
posts, possibly over a hundred. And we're supposed to do that all again? >>>>>
[...]

No, ofcourse not. I can't remember so many posts, but somehow it did not >>>> work for me.

-a-a As far as I know, and the others seem to think so too, your problem >>> *was* resolved at the time. Hence our criticism.

-a-a Anyway, did you followup on the - snipped - articles which Paul and I >>> posted?

-a-a As to "I can't remember so many posts": This wan't just any thread, it
was a very, very long and painful one, so you should have saved the
information or try to find it back.

I will try to find it back.

Fokke

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
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From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # 216 posts later... Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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Paul

I was forgotten that I asked for this problem before.

Fokke
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On Tue, 12/16/2025 3:25 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:36, Graham J wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work.-a You must have the same Windows Logon username and password on each device

On my own laptop I have the same user name and password as on my pc.
But it won't work.

Fokke

I have not seen an answer yet, to what AntiVirus programs are used
on the un-reachable windows 11 laptops.

Are you using Windows Defender everywhere, or did you install AVG or AVast
to replace Windows Defender ?

The reason this matters, is some third party AntiVirus programs have
their own Firewall.

In Settings, you can open "Windows Defender Firewall" and there are
Inbound Rules that can "blind" one of those Windows 11 laptops,
to incoming attempts to connect to the sharing interface.

control.exe : Windows Defender Firewall (control panel) # Quick way to get there.

In this article, they only address Domain rules, whereas you might
have Private network rules for File Sharing on your Firewall.

https://petri.com/smb-port-445-139-138-137/

It does not particularly matter absolutely what the rules look like,
as you have some "working" laptops and the rules there are examples
of what it should look like.

However, when a third party AV is there, it could look like this.

Network --- Windows Defender Firewall --- AVG Firewall ---- (file sharing stuff)

There also seems to be a declaration for the *Wifi* as to whether
it is Public (default) or Private (what you want).

https://superuser.com/questions/1757474/windows-firewall-is-blocking-file-sharing-and-ping

But like the people in that thread, our first assumption is that
"it was set up to work", and normally, it takes some tiny amount of
effort to break it. Installing a third-party AV, is an effortless way
to break things, as an example of how a user can tip over working goods.
The AV companies do not care that your evening is spoiled.

Paul
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On Tue, 12/16/2025 3:31 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
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Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

-a-a-a Paul

I was forgotten that I asked for this problem before.

Fokke

This is an approximate retention on news.individual.net (from their web page).

alt.* Alternate Hierarchy Groups added on user request only English >1000 days

That should have allowed this thread to be recorded.
It would depend on *when* alt.comp.os.windows-11 was
added as to whether there is three years worth on the server.

*******

Thunderbird does not have support for accessing

<m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

but Betterbird, a fairly recent version, may have had
that added as a URI for fetching things.

*******

One of the things you tried before was

(Terminal window)

explorer \\HP-SONJA\Documents

and that apparently worked for you at one time.

Paul
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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 12/15/2025 3:38 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]

As to "I can't remember so many posts": This wan't just any thread, it >> was a very, very long and painful one, so you should have saved the
information or try to find it back.

I will try to find it back.

Fokke

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
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Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # 216 posts later...

Apparently my, "It was tens and tens of posts, possibly over a
hundred." was an *under*estimate! :-) c.q. :-(

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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
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From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # 216 posts later... Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this
group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how
many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then
you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.
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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:42, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 14/12/2025 21:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my >>>> PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the
settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares >>>> on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

Many thanks in advance.
With kind regards,
Fokke Nauta

Have the Windows 11 laptops recently been updated to 24H2?

Yes, they are 25H5.

Did it work *before* they were updated to 24H2? I.e. the change to
24H2 is relevant. The subsequent change to 25H2 is not relevant.

No, it didn't work.

If so, see

'FIX: Windows 11 24H2 Cannot Access Network Shares (0x80070035).'
<https://www.wintips.org/fix-windows-11-24h2-cannot-access-network-shares-0x80070035/>

I did this but it did not work.

"it did not work" is non-information.

No, it is not. I read it and did all what was needed, but there was no result.

If you tried the method via the IP address instead of the computer
name, it is *very* unlikely that it failed with the exact same error messages (provided you specified the correct IP address and share name
and that the share name is indeed a share).

I did and it said: This site can?t be reached

So that is *not* "the exact same error", is it!? :-(

That should have been a clue for you and could have been for 'us'
(probably most notably Paul), *if* you would have told us, but you
didn't.

And even if you didn't update the laptops, check this article and if >>> it does not help/work, do Google searches on the error message and code, >>> because as has been said, we've been over all of this in your endless
thread earlier this year. And find back the old thread in your notes
or/and on your news server (I assume Thunderbird keeps your posted
articles in its Sent folder).

And what results did you get from Google,

I looked at the error code.

When I searched on the error code, I got tens of results. Did you look
at them all and followed up all their advice? I don't think so!

what did you find in your
Sent folder and did you find the old thread on your news server?

Not yet.

You have the problem, we don't, so the work has to be done by you. Our crystal balls are in the shop.

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as
the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer
name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."
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Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work. You must have the same Windows Logon username
and password on each device

As others have mentioned there are alternative methods without the
same username/password on every system or with the same username/
password, but where that username is not a normal logon username.

After having some difficulty adding a new Windows 11 system as a
replacement for an 'old Windows 10 one, I added the pseudo user
'Everyone' to the shares and gave it sufficient permissions. Perhaps not
the most ideal setup, security-wise, but quite acceptable for our small
trusted local network (only two machines).
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On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From
my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program.

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<cut>

Test
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On 16/12/2025 17:14, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:42, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 14/12/2025 21:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my >>>>>> PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>>> files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the
settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares >>>>>> on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

Many thanks in advance.
With kind regards,
Fokke Nauta

Have the Windows 11 laptops recently been updated to 24H2?

Yes, they are 25H5.

Did it work *before* they were updated to 24H2? I.e. the change to
24H2 is relevant. The subsequent change to 25H2 is not relevant.

No, it didn't work.

If so, see

'FIX: Windows 11 24H2 Cannot Access Network Shares (0x80070035).'
<https://www.wintips.org/fix-windows-11-24h2-cannot-access-network-shares-0x80070035/>

I did this but it did not work.

"it did not work" is non-information.

No, it is not. I read it and did all what was needed, but there was no
result.

If you tried the method via the IP address instead of the computer
name, it is *very* unlikely that it failed with the exact same error
messages (provided you specified the correct IP address and share name
and that the share name is indeed a share).

I did and it said: This site can?t be reached

So that is *not* "the exact same error", is it!? :-(

No, it's different.

That should have been a clue for you and could have been for 'us' (probably most notably Paul), *if* you would have told us, but you
didn't.

And even if you didn't update the laptops, check this article and if >>>>> it does not help/work, do Google searches on the error message and code, >>>>> because as has been said, we've been over all of this in your endless >>>>> thread earlier this year. And find back the old thread in your notes >>>>> or/and on your news server (I assume Thunderbird keeps your posted
articles in its Sent folder).

And what results did you get from Google,

I looked at the error code.

When I searched on the error code, I got tens of results. Did you look
at them all and followed up all their advice? I don't think so!

Yes, ofcourse i did. With no result.

what did you find in your
Sent folder and did you find the old thread on your news server?

Not yet.

You have the problem, we don't, so the work has to be done by you. Our >>> crystal balls are in the shop.

OK.

Fokke

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On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this
group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how
many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then
you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke
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On 16/12/2025 11:09, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 3:31 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

-a-a-a Paul

I was forgotten that I asked for this problem before.

Fokke

This is an approximate retention on news.individual.net (from their web page).

alt.* Alternate Hierarchy Groups added on user request only English >1000 days

That should have allowed this thread to be recorded.
It would depend on *when* alt.comp.os.windows-11 was
added as to whether there is three years worth on the server.

*******

Thunderbird does not have support for accessing

<m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

but Betterbird, a fairly recent version, may have had
that added as a URI for fetching things.

*******

One of the things you tried before was

(Terminal window)

explorer \\HP-SONJA\Documents

and that apparently worked for you at one time.

Paul

No, it doesn't work anymore.

Fokke
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On 16/12/2025 17:02, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 12/15/2025 3:38 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]

As to "I can't remember so many posts": This wan't just any thread, it >>>> was a very, very long and painful one, so you should have saved the
information or try to find it back.

I will try to find it back.

Fokke

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
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Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> # 216 posts later...

Apparently my, "It was tens and tens of posts, possibly over a
hundred." was an *under*estimate! :-) c.q. :-(

Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
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Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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I'll try to get a look to it.

Fokke

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On 16/12/2025 10:11, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 3:25 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:36, Graham J wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work.-a You must have the same Windows Logon username and password on each device

On my own laptop I have the same user name and password as on my pc.
But it won't work.

Fokke

I have not seen an answer yet, to what AntiVirus programs are used
on the un-reachable windows 11 laptops.

Are you using Windows Defender everywhere, or did you install AVG or AVast
to replace Windows Defender ?

It's BitDefender Antivirus lus,

The reason this matters, is some third party AntiVirus programs have
their own Firewall.

In Settings, you can open "Windows Defender Firewall" and there are
Inbound Rules that can "blind" one of those Windows 11 laptops,
to incoming attempts to connect to the sharing interface.

control.exe : Windows Defender Firewall (control panel) # Quick way to get there.

Windows Defender Firewall is set off for Privat networks. And we have a private network here.

In this article, they only address Domain rules, whereas you might
have Private network rules for File Sharing on your Firewall.

https://petri.com/smb-port-445-139-138-137/

It does not particularly matter absolutely what the rules look like,
as you have some "working" laptops and the rules there are examples
of what it should look like.

However, when a third party AV is there, it could look like this.

Network --- Windows Defender Firewall --- AVG Firewall ---- (file sharing stuff)

There also seems to be a declaration for the *Wifi* as to whether
it is Public (default) or Private (what you want).

It's Private.

https://superuser.com/questions/1757474/windows-firewall-is-blocking-file-sharing-and-ping

But like the people in that thread, our first assumption is that
"it was set up to work", and normally, it takes some tiny amount of
effort to break it. Installing a third-party AV, is an effortless way
to break things, as an example of how a user can tip over working goods.
The AV companies do not care that your evening is spoiled.

Paul

Fokke

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On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as
the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer
name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2
W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We
can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

Fokke
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On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From
my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program.

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

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On 15/12/2025 16:56, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 12/14/2025 9:58 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 12/12/2025 20:11, Fokke Nauta wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops.
From my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't
see their files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and
in the settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the
shares on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open
them?

When I try to open de laptops on my PC, I get the message Windows
cannot access \\laptop. The error code is 0x80070035. I searched the
code on the internet and followed the instructions. There was no
result.
Other instructions on the laptops:
Network discovery = on.
Setup network connected devices automatically.
File- and printersharing = on.
Network profile type = private network.

Err_6.4.5-Dec2023.exe 0x80070035

# No results found for hex 0x80070035 / decimal -2147024843
# as an HRESULT: Severity: FAILURE (1), FACILITY_WIN32 (0x7), Code 0x35
# for hex 0x35 / decimal 53

ERROR_BAD_NETPATH winerror.h
"The network path was not found."

# 1 matches found for "0x80070035"

Note that "The network path was not found." is in the actual popup,
but not mentioned by Fokke. And in his OP, he didn't mention "Windows
cannot access \\laptop" nor the error code. And the actual message is
"Error code: 0x80070035". In order to be able to help/search/etc., these 'details' are important.

[...]

I checked all the things from the internet page of the error code. Unfortunately it did not work.

Fokke
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On 16/12/2025 17:36, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work. You must have the same Windows Logon username
and password on each device

As others have mentioned there are alternative methods without the
same username/password on every system or with the same username/
password, but where that username is not a normal logon username.

After having some difficulty adding a new Windows 11 system as a replacement for an 'old Windows 10 one, I added the pseudo user
'Everyone' to the shares and gave it sufficient permissions. Perhaps not
the most ideal setup, security-wise, but quite acceptable for our small trusted local network (only two machines).

No, the laptops are with a new W11 Pro system.
And the 3 W10 pc's and my laptop have the same user name and password.
My wife's laptop has her username and password.

Fokke
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 01:05:33 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 12/15/2025 8:44 PM, Char Jackson wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 21:36:14 +0000, Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

Same Windows Logon username/pw on each device?

No.

Then nothing will work. You must have the same Windows Logon username
and password on each device

I don't want to derail any progress being made, but I've never found a
requirement to create matching user/pass on the destination PC. When
prompted, I simply use credentials that already exist there.

This is a practicality situation.

laptop#1 timmy:12345678
laptop#2 ronald:87654
laptop#3 sally:forth

If instead, you do this

laptop#1 bullwinkle:12321
laptop#2 bullwinkle:12321
laptop#3 bullwinkle:12321

then, all you have to remember, is that one auxiliary account
you set up on each machine.

Exactly right. I understand the theory behind it. I'm just saying that
it's not required, despite all of the tutorials and step by step guides
that begin by saying you have to do it a certain way, i.e your second
example above. The first example works just fine, as well.

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On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:47 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

-a-a I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as
the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer
name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2 W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

Fokke

This is the Copilot response so far:

Question:

If one windows 11 desktop, can see the icon for a file sharing second windows 11 laptop over Wifi,
what reason would there be for a 0x80070035 "The network path was not found" error ? The workgroup
settings are the same. The computers can successfully use the ping command.

Answer:

YourCOve already ruled out some basics (same workgroup, successful ping,
visible icon), which narrows the causes of **0x80070035 "The network path was not found"**
quite a bit. This error usually means that while name resolution and basic connectivity
work, the **SMB (file sharing) protocol traffic** is being blocked or misconfigured.
Here are the most common reasons:

### Likely Causes
- **Firewall blocking SMB traffic**
- Windows Defender Firewall (or third-party firewalls) may allow ICMP (ping) but block SMB ports (TCP 445, 139).

- **SMB protocol disabled**
- Windows 11 sometimes has **SMB1 disabled by default**. If the target machine requires SMB1 <=== not relevant
(older devices or misconfigured shares), connection fails.

- **Network profile mismatch**
- If one PC is set to **Public network** instead of **Private**, file sharing rules wonrCOt apply.

- **Credential / permission issues**
- Even if the icon is visible, if the share requires authentication <=== it should put up a dialog box
and credentials arenrCOt accepted, you may see this error. if this was the case (which is not happening)

- **Name resolution vs. direct path**
- The icon may appear via cached discovery, but the actual UNC path
(`\\LaptopName\Share`) may fail if NetBIOS or DNS resolution isnrCOt consistent.

- **Services not running**
- Required services like **Function Discovery Resource Publication**,
**Server**, or **Workstation** may be disabled.

- **Network isolation**
- Some Wi-Fi routers/APs have **client isolation** enabled (devices can ping but not access each otherrCOs shares).

### Steps to Diagnose
1. **Check firewall rules**
- Ensure File and Printer Sharing is allowed on both machines (Control Panel raA Windows Defender Firewall raA Allowed apps).

2. **Verify SMB settings**
- Run `optionalfeatures.exe` raA confirm **SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support** if needed. [Not Relevant, not a NAS or WinXP]
- Ensure **SMB Direct** is enabled.

3. **Confirm network profile**
- Settings raA Network & Internet raA Wi-Fi raA Properties raA set to **Private**.

4. **Test UNC path directly**
- Try `\\LaptopName\C$` or `\\LaptopIP\ShareName` in File Explorer.

5. **Check services**
- Run `services.msc` raA ensure **Server** and **Workstation** services are running.

6. **Router settings**
- Disable client isolation if enabled.

### Quick sanity check
The most common culprit is **firewall blocking SMB ports** or **network profile set to Public**. Fixing those usually resolves 0x80070035.

Paul
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On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:34 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:14, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:42, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 14/12/2025 21:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my
PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>>>> files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the >>>>>>> settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares
on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

Many thanks in advance.
With kind regards,
Fokke Nauta

-a-a-a-a Have the Windows 11 laptops recently been updated to 24H2? >>>>>

Yes, they are 25H5.

-a-a-a Did it work *before* they were updated to 24H2? I.e. the change to >>>> 24H2 is relevant. The subsequent change to 25H2 is not relevant.

No, it didn't work.

-a-a-a-a If so, see

'FIX: Windows 11 24H2 Cannot Access Network Shares (0x80070035).'
<https://www.wintips.org/fix-windows-11-24h2-cannot-access-network-shares-0x80070035/>

I did this but it did not work.

-a-a-a "it did not work" is non-information.

No, it is not. I read it and did all what was needed, but there was no
result.

-a-a-a If you tried the method via the IP address instead of the computer >>>> name, it is *very* unlikely that it failed with the exact same error
messages (provided you specified the correct IP address and share name >>>> and that the share name is indeed a share).

I did and it said: This site can?t be reached

-a-a So that is *not* "the exact same error", is it!? :-(

No, it's different.

-a-a That should have been a clue for you and could have been for 'us'
(probably most notably Paul), *if* you would have told us, but you
didn't.

-a-a-a-a And even if you didn't update the laptops, check this article and if
it does not help/work, do Google searches on the error message and code, >>>>>> because as has been said, we've been over all of this in your endless >>>>>> thread earlier this year. And find back the old thread in your notes >>>>>> or/and on your news server (I assume Thunderbird keeps your posted >>>>>> articles in its Sent folder).

-a-a-a And what results did you get from Google,

I looked at the error code.

-a-a When I searched on the error code, I got tens of results. Did you look >> at them all and followed up all their advice? I don't think so!

Yes, ofcourse i did. With no result.

what did you find in your
Sent folder and did you find the old thread on your news server?

Not yet.

-a-a-a You have the problem, we don't, so the work has to be done by you. Our
crystal balls are in the shop.

OK.

Fokke

You can write questions for CoPilot (if it is working where you are),
and it should be able to list the high points to consider.

Any LLM-AI should have a decent training set, if you cannot get CoPilot
to work.

The training set is not such, that every "corner condition" gets listed
in a query. In some cases, you have to "know the answer", to get the
LLM-AI to expand on an issue. In that sense, it is no different than
forcing Google to give you an answer.

Paul


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On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this
group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how
many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then
you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

Paul
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On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
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Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this >>> group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how
many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then
you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

Paul

Thanks, Paul.
I did and now can see my previous question.
I ended with:

Hi all,

All of a sudden the problem is solved! I'm really happy with it.
To you all many thanks for your help and suggestions. Finally it worked!

With best regards,
Fokke

But it was only for a short time. The problem is now with my laptop and
my wife's laptop again.

Fokke
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On 17/12/2025 7:36 pm, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts
later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this >>>> group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how >>>> many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then >>>> you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

-a-a-a Paul

Thanks, Paul.
I did and now can see my previous question.
I ended with:

Hi all,

All of a sudden the problem is solved! I'm really happy with it.
To you all many thanks for your help and suggestions. Finally it worked!

With best regards,
Fokke

But it was only for a short time. The problem is now with my laptop and
my wife's laptop again.

Fokke

Fokke, in my SeaMonkey News Account, I have it set-up to only show those threads where there is a response that I haven't read yet.

If I wanted, I could set it up to show ALL THE READ THREADS as well as
all the threads which have unread response in.

View -> Threads -> All

Does Thunderbird not have a similar setting .... perhaps under 'Options'
or something??

That might get you back to when you started this Profile.
--
Daniel70
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Daniel70 wrote:

in my SeaMonkey News Account, I have it set-up to only show those
threads where there is a response that I haven't read yet.

If I wanted, I could set it up to show ALL THE READ THREADS as well as
all the threads which have unread response in.

View -> Threads -> All

Does Thunderbird not have a similar setting .... perhaps under 'Options'
or something??

That might get you back to when you started this Profile.

You can set certain groups for offline use,


tools/account settings, synchronisation and storage

set a number of days (e.g 365) history to keep, then tell TB to go File/Offline/Download/sync now and then go offline, it'll do a large
download depending on the group, remember to make the "remove bodies
from messages" longer than the number of days messages you've
downloaded, or they'll get deleted pretty soon after you've spent time downloading them



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Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

All of a sudden the problem is solved! I'm really happy with it. > To you all many thanks for your help and suggestions. Finally it

worked!> > With best regards,> Fokke> > But it was only for a short
time. The problem is now with my laptop and > my wife's laptop again.> >
Fokke
Clearly English is not Fokke's native language. I suspect he is Dutch.

Is there somebody who can translate our English replies into Dutch for
him? We might then get sensible answers to the questions we ask.
--
Graham J
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On 17/12/2025 12:11, Daniel70 wrote:

On 17/12/2025 7:36 pm, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts
later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just >>>>> this
group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how >>>>> many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers.
Then
you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

-a-a-a Paul

Thanks, Paul.
I did and now can see my previous question.
I ended with:

Hi all,

All of a sudden the problem is solved! I'm really happy with it.
To you all many thanks for your help and suggestions. Finally it worked!

With best regards,
Fokke

But it was only for a short time. The problem is now with my laptop
and my wife's laptop again.

Fokke

Fokke, in my SeaMonkey News Account, I have it set-up to only show those threads where there is a response that I haven't read yet.

If I wanted, I could set it up to show ALL THE READ THREADS as well as
all the threads which have unread response in.

View -> Threads -> All

That's also with Thunderbird. But that is the setting.

Does Thunderbird not have a similar setting .... perhaps under 'Options'
or something??

That might get you back to when you started this Profile.

No, it doesn't.

Fokke

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On 17/12/2025 12:35, Andy Burns wrote:

Daniel70 wrote:

in my SeaMonkey News Account, I have it set-up to only show those
threads where there is a response that I haven't read yet.

If I wanted, I could set it up to show ALL THE READ THREADS as well as
all the threads which have unread response in.

View -> Threads -> All

Does Thunderbird not have a similar setting .... perhaps under
'Options' or something??

That might get you back to when you started this Profile.

You can set certain groups for offline use,

tools/account settings, synchronisation and storage

set a number of days (e.g 365) history to keep, then tell TB to go File/Offline/Download/sync now and then go offline, it'll do a large download depending on the group, remember to make the "remove bodies
from messages" longer than the number of days messages you've
downloaded, or they'll get deleted pretty soon after you've spent time downloading them

Thanks, that is good to know. I'll have a look at it.
But I have an other news server now, with much more history. I can see
my previous questions.

Fokke

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On 17/12/2025 13:02, Graham J wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

[snip]

All of a sudden the problem is solved! I'm really happy with it. > To
you all many thanks for your help and suggestions. Finally it

worked!> > With best regards,> Fokke> > But it was only for a short
time. The problem is now with my laptop and > my wife's laptop again.> > Fokke
Clearly English is not Fokke's native language.-a I suspect he is Dutch.

Yes, I'm Dutch.
But I can read English. I lived for 5 years in Milton Keynes (UK) so my English is not too bad. But writing is a bit more difficult.

Is there somebody who can translate our English replies into Dutch for him?-a We might then get sensible answers to the questions we ask.

A translation is not necessarry.

Fokke

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On 17/12/2025 05:16, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:47 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

-a-a I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as >>> the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer
name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2 W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

Fokke

This is the Copilot response so far:

Question:

If one windows 11 desktop, can see the icon for a file sharing second windows 11 laptop over Wifi,
what reason would there be for a 0x80070035 "The network path was not found" error ? The workgroup
settings are the same. The computers can successfully use the ping command.

Answer:

YourCOve already ruled out some basics (same workgroup, successful ping,
visible icon), which narrows the causes of **0x80070035 "The network path was not found"**
quite a bit. This error usually means that while name resolution and basic connectivity
work, the **SMB (file sharing) protocol traffic** is being blocked or misconfigured.
Here are the most common reasons:

### Likely Causes
- **Firewall blocking SMB traffic**
- Windows Defender Firewall (or third-party firewalls) may allow ICMP (ping) but block SMB ports (TCP 445, 139).

- **SMB protocol disabled**
- Windows 11 sometimes has **SMB1 disabled by default**. If the target machine requires SMB1 <=== not relevant
(older devices or misconfigured shares), connection fails.

- **Network profile mismatch**
- If one PC is set to **Public network** instead of **Private**, file sharing rules wonrCOt apply.

- **Credential / permission issues**
- Even if the icon is visible, if the share requires authentication <=== it should put up a dialog box
and credentials arenrCOt accepted, you may see this error. if this was the case (which is not happening)

- **Name resolution vs. direct path**
- The icon may appear via cached discovery, but the actual UNC path
(`\\LaptopName\Share`) may fail if NetBIOS or DNS resolution isnrCOt consistent.

- **Services not running**
- Required services like **Function Discovery Resource Publication**,
**Server**, or **Workstation** may be disabled.

- **Network isolation**
- Some Wi-Fi routers/APs have **client isolation** enabled (devices can ping but not access each otherrCOs shares).

### Steps to Diagnose
1. **Check firewall rules**
- Ensure File and Printer Sharing is allowed on both machines (Control Panel raA Windows Defender Firewall raA Allowed apps).

2. **Verify SMB settings**
- Run `optionalfeatures.exe` raA confirm **SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support** if needed. [Not Relevant, not a NAS or WinXP]
- Ensure **SMB Direct** is enabled.

3. **Confirm network profile**
- Settings raA Network & Internet raA Wi-Fi raA Properties raA set to **Private**.

4. **Test UNC path directly**
- Try `\\LaptopName\C$` or `\\LaptopIP\ShareName` in File Explorer.

5. **Check services**
- Run `services.msc` raA ensure **Server** and **Workstation** services are running.

6. **Router settings**
- Disable client isolation if enabled.

### Quick sanity check
The most common culprit is **firewall blocking SMB ports** or **network profile set to Public**. Fixing those usually resolves 0x80070035.

Paul

Thanks,

I already checked most of these things. Settings are OK and the router
is OK as well.
The contacts between the 3 W10 pc's are ok. It's only the W11 laptops.

Fokke
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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as
the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2
W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We
can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

The point isn't that you have only one workgroup, but whether the
workgroup is correctly set on all systems, especially on the two Windows
11 laptops, which "don't work" and are apparently relatively new.
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On 17/12/2025 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as
the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer
name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2
W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We
can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

The point isn't that you have only one workgroup, but whether the workgroup is correctly set on all systems, especially on the two Windows
11 laptops, which "don't work" and are apparently relatively new.

There are many settings on the laptops which I checked, and these are OK.

Fokke
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On 17/12/2025 05:22, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:34 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:14, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 17:42, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 14/12/2025 21:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my
PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>>>>> files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the >>>>>>>> settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares
on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them? >>>>>>>>
Many thanks in advance.
With kind regards,
Fokke Nauta

-a-a-a-a Have the Windows 11 laptops recently been updated to 24H2? >>>>>>

Yes, they are 25H5.

-a-a-a Did it work *before* they were updated to 24H2? I.e. the change to
24H2 is relevant. The subsequent change to 25H2 is not relevant.

No, it didn't work.

-a-a-a-a If so, see

'FIX: Windows 11 24H2 Cannot Access Network Shares (0x80070035).' >>>>>>> <https://www.wintips.org/fix-windows-11-24h2-cannot-access-network-shares-0x80070035/>

I did this but it did not work.

-a-a-a "it did not work" is non-information.

No, it is not. I read it and did all what was needed, but there was no >>>> result.

-a-a-a If you tried the method via the IP address instead of the computer
name, it is *very* unlikely that it failed with the exact same error >>>>> messages (provided you specified the correct IP address and share name >>>>> and that the share name is indeed a share).

I did and it said: This site can?t be reached

-a-a So that is *not* "the exact same error", is it!? :-(

No, it's different.

-a-a That should have been a clue for you and could have been for 'us'
(probably most notably Paul), *if* you would have told us, but you
didn't.

-a-a-a-a And even if you didn't update the laptops, check this article and if
it does not help/work, do Google searches on the error message and code,
because as has been said, we've been over all of this in your endless >>>>>>> thread earlier this year. And find back the old thread in your notes >>>>>>> or/and on your news server (I assume Thunderbird keeps your posted >>>>>>> articles in its Sent folder).

-a-a-a And what results did you get from Google,

I looked at the error code.

-a-a When I searched on the error code, I got tens of results. Did you look
at them all and followed up all their advice? I don't think so!

Yes, ofcourse i did. With no result.

what did you find in your
Sent folder and did you find the old thread on your news server?

Not yet.

-a-a-a You have the problem, we don't, so the work has to be done by you. Our
crystal balls are in the shop.

OK.

Fokke

You can write questions for CoPilot (if it is working where you are),
and it should be able to list the high points to consider.

Any LLM-AI should have a decent training set, if you cannot get CoPilot
to work.

The training set is not such, that every "corner condition" gets listed
in a query. In some cases, you have to "know the answer", to get the
LLM-AI to expand on an issue. In that sense, it is no different than
forcing Google to give you an answer.

Paul

Thanks for your information from CoPilot.

Fokke

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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 17/12/2025 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as >>> the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer >>> name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found."

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2
W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We
can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

The point isn't that you have only one workgroup, but whether the workgroup is correctly set on all systems, especially on the two Windows
11 laptops, which "don't work" and are apparently relatively new.

There are many settings on the laptops which I checked, and these are OK.

You keep saying that, but there must be something set incorrectly,
because it used to work and now it doesn't.

And for example for Paul's AI generated advice, you say you checked
most of it, but you should not check most of it, but all of it.

As I said before, you have the problem (and the (configuration)
information, (error) messages, etc., etc.), we don't, so you will have
to do the work, the checking, etc..

As, like most essential information, you haven't mentioned it: Which
shares do you have configured on the Windows 11 laptops and how did you configure them, i.e. the '[Share...]' settings?
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On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From
my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>> files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program.

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.
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On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From >>>>> my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>> files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program.

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

Or just stop Bitdefender while you check.
I have had Bitdefender Plus installed for years without sharing failing.
But I don't use the proxy server.
--
Jesper
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On Wed, 12/17/2025 3:08 PM, Jesper wrote:

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From >>>>>> my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>>> files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program. >>>>

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

Or just stop Bitdefender while you check.
I have had Bitdefender Plus installed for years without sharing failing. But I don't use the proxy server.

A quick Google, gives this summary:

Features: 70%. Bitdefender Antivirus Plus (2026) includes anti-malware and anti-phishing.
But it misses a firewall,
a password manager,
and a VPN.

That sounds a little safer than some of the others.

Paul



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On Wed, 12/17/2025 11:35 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 17/12/2025 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as >>>>> the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer >>>>> name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found." >>>>

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2
W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We
can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

The point isn't that you have only one workgroup, but whether the
workgroup is correctly set on all systems, especially on the two Windows >>> 11 laptops, which "don't work" and are apparently relatively new.

There are many settings on the laptops which I checked, and these are OK.

You keep saying that, but there must be something set incorrectly,
because it used to work and now it doesn't.

And for example for Paul's AI generated advice, you say you checked
most of it, but you should not check most of it, but all of it.

As I said before, you have the problem (and the (configuration) information, (error) messages, etc., etc.), we don't, so you will have
to do the work, the checking, etc..

As, like most essential information, you haven't mentioned it: Which
shares do you have configured on the Windows 11 laptops and how did you configure them, i.e. the '[Share...]' settings?

Scanning from WALLACE for other file share machines.
(I renamed the file so I could see the version on it.)

nbtscan-1.0.35.exe 192.168.1.0/24

192.168.1.100 WORKGROUP\GREGORE SHARING <=== only one other PC running...
*timeout (normal end of scan)

The "24" specifies the netmask in use (scans 256 addresses).

Not all versions of the program, have the nice output.
A Linux version does not state the workgroup value, which
in this example is workgroup = WORKGROUP. If my dead WinXP
machine was still around, it could be MSHOME.

http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html

Paul
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On 18/12/2025 00:01, Paul wrote:

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

Or just stop Bitdefender while you check.
I have had Bitdefender Plus installed for years without sharing failing. But I don't use the proxy server.

A quick Google, gives this summary:

Features: 70%. Bitdefender Antivirus Plus (2026) includes anti-malware and anti-phishing.
But it misses a firewall,
a password manager,
and a VPN.

That sounds a little safer than some of the others.

Paul

They do offer a VPN, but only up to 200 MB a day, and it is not
activated as standard. You can pay to get unlimited VPN.
--
Jesper
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On 18/12/2025 00:01, Paul wrote:

On Wed, 12/17/2025 3:08 PM, Jesper wrote:

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From >>>>>>> my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>>>> files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program. >>>>>

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

Or just stop Bitdefender while you check.
I have had Bitdefender Plus installed for years without sharing failing. But I don't use the proxy server.

A quick Google, gives this summary:

Features: 70%. Bitdefender Antivirus Plus (2026) includes anti-malware and anti-phishing.
But it misses a firewall,
a password manager,
and a VPN.

That sounds a little safer than some of the others.

Paul

Thanks. I turned off safety control, but that did not make a difference.

Fokke


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On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this >>> group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how
many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then
you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

Paul

Thanks!

This server works well and is free. For my server (news.individual.net)
I have to pay, and it will stop in a short time.
So is it a good step to move to paganini.bofh.team?

Fokke
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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 12/12/2025 20:11, Fokke Nauta wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the
settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

When I try to open de laptops on my PC, I get the message Windows cannot access \\laptop. The error code is 0x80070035. I searched the code on
the internet and followed the instructions. There was no result.
Other instructions on the laptops:
Network discovery = on.
Setup network connected devices automatically.
File- and printersharing = on.
Network profile type = private network.

New wild guess: When you try to access the Windows 11 laptops from the Windows 10 PC, could it be that the laptops are *sleeping*?

After all, they are laptops and are probably set to sleep after some
time, even if they are connected to power.

If they *are* sleeping, you will get the exact error you're getting!

I just tried that on my network and a sleeping remote host will cause
this exact same error [1].

You said "From my PC I can see the laptops," and that is quite
possible, even if the laptops are sleeping, because the Network
information is locally cached (see the nbtstat command). So in this
scenario, you would *see* the laptops, but because they are sleeping,
they are *not accessible*.

So test this scenario. Set the laptops to never sleep or not sleep for several hours and try again.

[1]
"Windows cannot access \\<remote system>

Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise, there might be a problem with
your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click
Diagnose.

/\ Hide details [Diagnose] [Cancel]

Error code: 0x80070035
The network path was not found."
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On 17/12/2025 17:35, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 17/12/2025 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:22, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
[...]

Since the error at the moment, is one of Network Path Not Found,
I don't think it is getting tested on credentials just yet. First
it has to connect, before it can be rejected on credentials :-)

I agree [1]. Coming to think of it, could it be something simple as >>>>> the workgroup being inconsistent accross his network? I.e. the computer >>>>> name and share name could be correct, but in the wrong workgroup.

[1] The error *message* is actually "The network path was not found." >>>>

We have only one workgroup. One private network with 3 W10 pc's and 2
W11 laptops. All W10 pc's can see eachother and open their shares. We
can see the 2 W11 laptops, but can't open them.

The point isn't that you have only one workgroup, but whether the
workgroup is correctly set on all systems, especially on the two Windows >>> 11 laptops, which "don't work" and are apparently relatively new.

There are many settings on the laptops which I checked, and these are OK.

You keep saying that, but there must be something set incorrectly,
because it used to work and now it doesn't.

And for example for Paul's AI generated advice, you say you checked
most of it, but you should not check most of it, but all of it.

I have checked all issues which I thought were relevant.

As I said before, you have the problem (and the (configuration) information, (error) messages, etc., etc.), we don't, so you will have
to do the work, the checking, etc..

As, like most essential information, you haven't mentioned it: Which shares do you have configured on the Windows 11 laptops and how did you configure them, i.e. the '[Share...]' settings?

I have shared Documents, Videos, Music, Downloads, Pictures. I used the
share settings which were available. And I thought which were necessary.

Fokke


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On 18/12/2025 17:12, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 12/12/2025 20:11, Fokke Nauta wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my >>> PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the
settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares >>> on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

When I try to open de laptops on my PC, I get the message Windows cannot
access \\laptop. The error code is 0x80070035. I searched the code on
the internet and followed the instructions. There was no result.
Other instructions on the laptops:
Network discovery = on.
Setup network connected devices automatically.
File- and printersharing = on.
Network profile type = private network.

New wild guess: When you try to access the Windows 11 laptops from the Windows 10 PC, could it be that the laptops are *sleeping*?

No, ofcourse not. They are awake anyway, and before trying to connect, I logged in on the laptops again. If you don't use them for a short while,
you need to log in again.

After all, they are laptops and are probably set to sleep after some
time, even if they are connected to power.

Yes. But no problem.

If they *are* sleeping, you will get the exact error you're getting!

They didn't sleep.

I just tried that on my network and a sleeping remote host will cause
this exact same error [1].

You said "From my PC I can see the laptops," and that is quite
possible, even if the laptops are sleeping, because the Network
information is locally cached (see the nbtstat command). So in this
scenario, you would *see* the laptops, but because they are sleeping,
they are *not accessible*.

So test this scenario. Set the laptops to never sleep or not sleep for several hours and try again.

No, that doesn't make any sence. The laptops were alive and working when
I tried to contact them.

[1]
"Windows cannot access \\<remote system>

Check the spelling of the name.

The names and passwords are correct. But when I try to contact them, I
don't even get the screen where you can fill in the user name and password.

Otherwise, there might be a problem with
your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click
Diagnose.

I did. It didn't answer, diagnose was not possible. In Details I found
the error code.

Fokke

/\ Hide details [Diagnose] [Cancel]

Error code: 0x80070035
The network path was not found."

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On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From >>>>> my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their >>>>> files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program.

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

I cancelled the security of BitDefender. So it didn't work anymore.

Fokke

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On 17/12/2025 21:08, Jesper wrote:

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From >>>>>> my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see
their
files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program. >>>>

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

Or just stop Bitdefender while you check.
I have had Bitdefender Plus installed for years without sharing failing.
But I don't use the proxy server.

On my W10 pc's I have also installed BitDefender, but no problems there.
And I cancelled the security of BitDefender when trying to connect.
And I don't use a proxy server.

Fokke
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On Thu, 12/18/2025 11:08 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this >>>> group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how >>>> many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then >>>> you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

-a-a-a Paul

Thanks!

This server works well and is free. For my server (news.individual.net) I have to pay, and it will stop in a short time.
So is it a good step to move to paganini.bofh.team?

Fokke

That is a backup server, for times your regular server is not working.

Some people filter posts from there. But I suppose that can be said
of any server these days.

Paul
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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 18/12/2025 17:12, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 12/12/2025 20:11, Fokke Nauta wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my >>> PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the
settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares >>> on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

When I try to open de laptops on my PC, I get the message Windows cannot >> access \\laptop. The error code is 0x80070035. I searched the code on
the internet and followed the instructions. There was no result.
Other instructions on the laptops:
Network discovery = on.
Setup network connected devices automatically.
File- and printersharing = on.
Network profile type = private network.

New wild guess: When you try to access the Windows 11 laptops from the Windows 10 PC, could it be that the laptops are *sleeping*?

No, ofcourse not. They are awake anyway, and before trying to connect, I logged in on the laptops again. If you don't use them for a short while,
you need to log in again.

Well, both for 'Plugged in' and 'On battery' the 'Recommended' screen
off and sleep settings are the same and *only 5 and 3 minutes*, so uou
have only very little time to test, before they go to sleep again.

After all, they are laptops and are probably set to sleep after some time, even if they are connected to power.

Yes. But no problem.

Says you, without checking.

If they *are* sleeping, you will get the exact error you're getting!

They didn't sleep.

Says you, without checking.

I just tried that on my network and a sleeping remote host will cause this exact same error [1].

You said "From my PC I can see the laptops," and that is quite
possible, even if the laptops are sleeping, because the Network
information is locally cached (see the nbtstat command). So in this scenario, you would *see* the laptops, but because they are sleeping,
they are *not accessible*.

So test this scenario. Set the laptops to never sleep or not sleep for several hours and try again.

No, that doesn't make any sence. The laptops were alive and working when
I tried to contact them.

Did you *see* the laptop screen still on when you tested or did you
just *assumed* it was still alive?

Why don't you just *test* it (by making the timeouts longer)? What do
you have to lose? :-(

[1]
"Windows cannot access \\<remote system>

Check the spelling of the name.

The names and passwords are correct. But when I try to contact them, I
don't even get the screen where you can fill in the user name and password.

That is, because, as Paul said *and* the actual error message says,
there is a *network* problem which *precedes* the authentication (name
and password) phase. See the next two lines of the error message:

Otherwise, there might be a problem with
your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click
Diagnose.

So even if there was no sleep problem, you should check for a network problem, which apparently gives the exact same error message and code as
when the remote is sleeping.

I think the 'nbtstat' command which I mentioned, can probably help
with that, but given your uncooperative attitude, I'm not going to hold
your hand.

[About clicking on '[Diagnose']:

I did. It didn't answer, diagnose was not possible. In Details I found
the error code.

/\ Hide details [Diagnose] [Cancel]

Error code: 0x80070035
The network path was not found."

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On 18/12/2025 20:08, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 18/12/2025 17:12, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 12/12/2025 20:11, Fokke Nauta wrote:

Hi all,

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From my >>>>> PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see their
files. On the laptops they can see a private network, and in the
settings on a private network all is shared.
But from my pc I can't see their shares. What can I do to see the shares >>>>> on the laptops? What else can I do on the laptops to open them?

When I try to open de laptops on my PC, I get the message Windows cannot >>>> access \\laptop. The error code is 0x80070035. I searched the code on
the internet and followed the instructions. There was no result.
Other instructions on the laptops:
Network discovery = on.
Setup network connected devices automatically.
File- and printersharing = on.
Network profile type = private network.

New wild guess: When you try to access the Windows 11 laptops from the >>> Windows 10 PC, could it be that the laptops are *sleeping*?

No, ofcourse not. They are awake anyway, and before trying to connect, I
logged in on the laptops again. If you don't use them for a short while,
you need to log in again.

Well, both for 'Plugged in' and 'On battery' the 'Recommended' screen
off and sleep settings are the same and *only 5 and 3 minutes*, so uou
have only very little time to test, before they go to sleep again.

After all, they are laptops and are probably set to sleep after some >>> time, even if they are connected to power.

Yes. But no problem.

Says you, without checking.

If they *are* sleeping, you will get the exact error you're getting!

They didn't sleep.

Says you, without checking.

I just tried that on my network and a sleeping remote host will cause >>> this exact same error [1].

You said "From my PC I can see the laptops," and that is quite
possible, even if the laptops are sleeping, because the Network
information is locally cached (see the nbtstat command). So in this
scenario, you would *see* the laptops, but because they are sleeping,
they are *not accessible*.

So test this scenario. Set the laptops to never sleep or not sleep for >>> several hours and try again.

No, that doesn't make any sence. The laptops were alive and working when
I tried to contact them.

Did you *see* the laptop screen still on when you tested or did you
just *assumed* it was still alive?

Why don't you just *test* it (by making the timeouts longer)? What do
you have to lose? :-(

[1]
"Windows cannot access \\<remote system>

Check the spelling of the name.

The names and passwords are correct. But when I try to contact them, I
don't even get the screen where you can fill in the user name and password.

That is, because, as Paul said *and* the actual error message says,
there is a *network* problem which *precedes* the authentication (name
and password) phase. See the next two lines of the error message:

Otherwise, there might be a problem with
your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click
Diagnose.

So even if there was no sleep problem, you should check for a network problem, which apparently gives the exact same error message and code as
when the remote is sleeping.

I think the 'nbtstat' command which I mentioned, can probably help
with that, but given your uncooperative attitude, I'm not going to hold
your hand.

[About clicking on '[Diagnose']:

I did. It didn't answer, diagnose was not possible. In Details I found
the error code.

/\ Hide details [Diagnose] [Cancel]

Error code: 0x80070035
The network path was not found."

Whatever you try to say, the laptop is next to my pc. I use them both.
The laptop was active when I tried to connect. So sleep is no option.

Fokke
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On 18/12/2025 19:23, Paul wrote:

On Thu, 12/18/2025 11:08 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this
group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how >>>>> many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then >>>>> you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group.
But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS
and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

-a-a-a Paul

Thanks!

This server works well and is free. For my server (news.individual.net) I have to pay, and it will stop in a short time.
So is it a good step to move to paganini.bofh.team?

Fokke

That is a backup server, for times your regular server is not working.

Some people filter posts from there. But I suppose that can be said
of any server these days.

Paul

OK, I'll look for another server. Can you advice me a good server?

Fokke
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Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 18/12/2025 20:08, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]

Whatever you try to say, the laptop is next to my pc. I use them both.
The laptop was active when I tried to connect. So sleep is no option.

Good. But I didn't *only* mention sleep, did I!?:

[Rewind/repeat:]

That is, because, as Paul said *and* the actual error message says, there is a *network* problem which *precedes* the authentication (name
and password) phase. See the next two lines of the error message:

Otherwise, there might be a problem with
your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click
Diagnose.

So even if there was no sleep problem, you should check for a network

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

problem, which apparently gives the exact same error message and code as

^^^^^^^^^^^^ ....

when the remote is sleeping.

I think the 'nbtstat' command which I mentioned, can probably help

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

with that, but given your uncooperative attitude, I'm not going to hold your hand.

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Op 18/12/2025 om 17:30 schreef Fokke Nauta:

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. From >>>>>> my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see
their
files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program. >>>>

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

I cancelled the security of BitDefender. So it didn't work anymore.

Fokke

I doubt that will change anything, the problem is the proxy, not the
scanner.
Real-time security requires everything to be rerouted through your
scanner, just disabling the scanning doesn't stop that, the proxy stays
in effect until you remove it.
Remove it completely, the built-in av is just as good these days.
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On Thu, 12/18/2025 3:47 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 18/12/2025 19:23, Paul wrote:

On Thu, 12/18/2025 11:08 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 17/12/2025 05:34, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 12/16/2025 2:36 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

On 15/12/2025 22:52, Paul wrote:

[...]

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # First post
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:58:44 +0200
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <m76dejFfqtkU1@mid.individual.net>

From: Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a # 216 posts later...
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:49:31 +0200
Lines: 80
Message-ID: <m92u0rF8bhqU1@mid.individual.net>

Thanks, Paul.

But I can't read further back then 03/11-2025.

-a-a-a-a You can set up an *extra* News account in Thunderbird for just this
group. After subscribing to the group, the download popup will say how >>>>>> many articles there are on the server. Adjust the number of to be
downloaded messages to that number and download *all* the headers. Then >>>>>> you can go back to April 27 and re-read from there.

I haven't seen yet how to create another account for this news group. >>>>> But I'll try to enlarge the list of coments in my news groep.

Fokke

paganini.bofh.team is a fully functional server, requiring no USER:PASS >>>> and does not need "Always Request Authentication" to work. You can
look there for the posts in alt.comp.os.windows-11 .

The paganini retention goes back to "20 Sep 2021" on that group.
The headers in my news reader here, go back to "22 Sep 2021".

Your previous thread is in the year 2025, so the thread should
be stored on a number of servers.

-a-a-a-a Paul

Thanks!

This server works well and is free. For my server (news.individual.net) I have to pay, and it will stop in a short time.
So is it a good step to move to paganini.bofh.team?

Fokke

That is a backup server, for times your regular server is not working.

Some people filter posts from there. But I suppose that can be said
of any server these days.

-a-a-a Paul

OK, I'll look for another server. Can you advice me a good server?

Fokke

You could try Solani.

it uses an account so you have to apply for an account.

I use Eternal-September.org as my primary, it uses an account.

https://www.solani.org/
https://www.eternal-september.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php?language=en

Paganini and Mixmin.net and netfront.net are for special
purposes of one sort and another. But netfront is read-only, and
some of the groups are "damaged" so syncing them is pointless
as the retention is not good. Other groups on netfront are
still working properly. Netfront stopped accepting posting requests,
after the ThaiSpam attack. A number of other servers, used various
exotic filtering provisions (SpamAssassin etc).

There is nothing wrong with Paganini.

It's just that some people have incoming filters for Paganini and Mixmin,
and if you post from those two, some people will not see your posting.
Any server that supports posting, but does not use USER:PASS
and can be abused, there will be people who filter all postings
coming from such servers. You can definitely "dial out" on such
a server, like if your own server is not working, but every-day
usage, you cannot be sure everyone can hear you.

Paul

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On 19/12/2025 06:05, dillinger wrote:

Op 18/12/2025 om 17:30 schreef Fokke Nauta:

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. >>>>>>> From
my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see >>>>>>> their
files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av program. >>>>>

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

I cancelled the security of BitDefender. So it didn't work anymore.

Fokke

I doubt that will change anything, the problem is the proxy, not the scanner.

Proxy?
Scanner?

Real-time security requires everything to be rerouted through your
scanner, just disabling the scanning doesn't stop that, the proxy stays
in effect until you remove it.
Remove it completely, the built-in av is just as good these days.

Fokke

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Op 19/12/2025 om 10:00 schreef Fokke Nauta:

On 19/12/2025 06:05, dillinger wrote:

Op 18/12/2025 om 17:30 schreef Fokke Nauta:

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 16/12/2025 18:12, dillinger wrote:

On 12-12-2025 20:31, Andy Burns wrote:

Fokke Nauta wrote:

I have a W10 Pro PC. In our network we have two W11 Pro Laptops. >>>>>>>> From
my PC I can see the laptops, but I can't open them and can't see >>>>>>>> their
files.

Didn't we (rather long-windedly) do this quiz in April?

Yes, IIRC the problem was solved by removing a third party av
program.

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

Fokke

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal
tool.

I cancelled the security of BitDefender. So it didn't work anymore.

Fokke

I doubt that will change anything, the problem is the proxy, not the
scanner.

Proxy?
Scanner?

Real-time security requires everything to be rerouted through your
scanner, just disabling the scanning doesn't stop that, the proxy
stays in effect until you remove it.
Remove it completely, the built-in av is just as good these days.

Fokke

I give up, good luck.
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From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

On 16/12/2025 20:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:

I did not remove the AV program (BitDefender Antivirus Plus), but
cancelled it's working. It had no results.

On 17/12/2025 20:36, dillinger wrote:

Try removing it completely, if necessary with Bitdefenders removal tool.

Op 18/12/2025 om 17:30 schreef Fokke Nauta:

I cancelled the security of BitDefender. So it didn't work anymore.

On 19/12/2025 06:05, dillinger wrote:

I doubt that will change anything, the problem is the proxy, not the
scanner.
Real-time security requires everything to be rerouted through your
scanner, just disabling the scanning doesn't stop that, the proxy stays
in effect until you remove it.
Remove it completely, the built-in av is just as good these days.

On 2025-12-19, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

Proxy?
Scanner?

Let's zoom out a bit:

A security package for an Internet-connected operating system consists
of a number of co-operating parts, each of which subverts the normal
functions of the operating system in some way.

- the most obvious part is the file scanner, which gets activated in
a number of ways:
- the most obvious and visible, is that it can do a spider crawl
of your file system (similar to what a backup package or an
indexing package does). This can be done in several modes:
- a full system scan, where it opens each file on the system and
uses its knowledge base of what is "bad" to try to recognize
known attack vectors.
- an incremental scan, where it remembers the last time the scan
was deemed complete (at the end of the scan, the "last completed"
time stamp is updated to the start time of that scan).
- a check of a single file, invoked by a hook implanted in the
email system
- a check of a single file invoked by a hook in the file
system when a program opens the file.
- another significant part is a proxy module, which is invoked
from the "open TCP connection" function in the network part of the
operating system. This is intended to prevent you from connecting
to an evil network host or to prevent you from responding to
incoming connections from evil hosts. This is a main component
of what is often called the firewall.

"dillinger" is right: If you are not clear on this terminology,
it will be very hard to help you.
--
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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